Even with the Parent background, you don't have many plot hooks. It deals with living up to a person casting a great shadow, and is a great source of motivation, but I'm not a fan of the plots it provides. The themes and ways it skews the story is inherently unappealing to me.
Revenge is also a classic martial artist background, and I think I prefer the way it makes a statement about the character to how Betterment doesn't. It means that the character has concrete goals amd plans- like, first I'll find out who did this, then I'll search for them, I'll ask mom to help- or maybe she turns out to be the killer- etc, in a way that Betterment doesn't.
What will we do with betterment, other than fighting and training (which we would have done anyway?) It is the most bland background I could see, and a big reason I'm not going Lynx. I mean, sure a good background can make up for a bad one, but it doesn't excuse that background from being bad.
Yeah, I like the idea of having a sorta-friendly person who we can partner up with and don't need to worry about protecting much better. The friendly rival is a total classic, and lends itself to all kinds of plots that are at least more action packed than little brother plots.
Like, at least we won't need to worry about protecting them, and they can contribute to fights on our level.
Eh, to be fair, in a lot of ways it could end up like HxH where by the time he met his dad, he already had way more shit to worry about than that.Even with the Parent background, you don't have many plot hooks. It deals with living up to a person casting a great shadow, and is a great source of motivation, but I'm not a fan of the plots it provides. The themes and ways it skews the story is inherently unappealing to me.
Revenge + Fame and Fortune would be best imo. We could have a fun, exgroverted braggadocio who loves to spread their name, while setting up their grand revenge plan through leveraging their newly acquired fame and fortune.
This is a shonen quest, and shonen is ultimately about making peace with even hated friends. It wouldn't be as negative as you think, we could reasonably play it like a better version of the Naruto-Sasuke dynamic.Ryuutei hates them. Explicitly. I'm not a huge fan of having such a central relationship to the quest be so negative, especially when paired with a negative background like Revenge. It just leads to a dark-and-edgy background and story ("My entire village was killed, but the one person I hate survived and they're an asshole") that I'm strongly opposed to.
Revenge + Fame and Fortune would be best imo. We could have a fun, exgroverted braggadocio who loves to spread their name, while setting up their grand revenge plan through leveraging their newly acquired fame and fortune.
A charismatic avenger, like the count of Monte Cristo. We could start a fighting tournament to gather all the people we want to kill, like one of those final bosses.
I was thinking about being the charismatic and wealthy person who uses their fortune to get justice, an that is not an innately tragic concept....You do know that Edmond Dantes a tragic hero in the literary sense, right? He is completely unfit to be the protagonist of a shonen story what the hell.
cyborgs done right. Cyborg(dc) Raiden maybe Genos(kinda fits in both cyborg and vengeance)TBH if it is between Guts and Omi there is literally no question for me, and it increasingly looking like it is so.
Alas, my panzer kunst, it is probably not to be.
I was thinking about being the charismatic and wealthy person who uses their fortune to get justice, an that is not an innately tragic concept.
Edmond Dantes is simply the closest hero I could find to convey it with.
I mean, shonen doesn't have to be innately anti-darkness. I presume you're using the average tropes that make up the average shonen protagonist, and they are essentially:
It doesn't have to light and cheery- Attack on Titan was published in a shonen magazine, for example. You are already overturning a common trope by having a female protag, why not one more?
- Be a young person
- Be focussed on training
- Be involved in action (not always, but whatever)
- Show high stakes brotherhood situations
Why are you hung up over one example I used? The concept of 'newly rich person using wealth and means to achieve justice' is not innately unworkable, and I was merely referring to the way Dantes dealt with his revenge using his wealth, and not any other aspect of his character.Man, you know that like, Dantes's quest for vengeance led to him never getting what he really wanted, right? He's a tragic hero twice over, because he chose revenge over the love of his life and is left empty at the end.
Dgrayman is mentioned in the OP. It's dark as hell and very much a shouneny thing. It's all about what magazine you're serialized in tbh fam.
Inspiration was more for the specific backgrounds/skills of the listed names, they've got no bearing on the setting at large. Inspiration is just that, and this won't be getting anywhere near close to a gritty seinen like Berserk is. The Guts inspiration isn't directly related to Guts as a character, but rather the nature of his relationship with the Berserk armour and what not later in the series. That's the sort of thing you'd be taking from it, rather than anything else about Guts.
Tropes are common memes that many people who write a genre put in, and by using the word I meant that 'possessing of the generic qualities popularly but not always seen in shonen'In addition, please don't ever actually use 'tropes' in an argument about literature. They're...that's not how they work. They're not things that people actively choose to use, but rather commonalities that emerge from similarly-themed works. Well, the useful ones are. A whole bunch of them are just useless.
Not what I was talking about.