Private Lee O'Malley
Préparez-Vous Au Combat!
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For me it's more "Oh hey you died! Again! Like, the 4th time now actually."
For context, this is from my XCOM LP.
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An Analysis of Original Quests on SV (Draft, under discussion and revision)
- Thread starter Cetashwayo
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For context, this is from my XCOM LP.
Xantalos
Turtle-Speed Writing
As one of the worse offenders for both of those patterns ... it depends. I still get a fair amount of likes on my stuff and what I consider a good amount of discussion for how slowly I go - usually around 2 pages per interlude I've done - but I've also seen someone like ganonso's quests be basically barren of participation for no discernible reason sometimes. I think mostly it depends on ... I dunno. But it is possible to update very slowly and still have a healthy amount of people participating, though maybe I just got lucky.
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Ganoso doesn't post that often, do they? And I swear I remember a string of dead Quests?
Xantalos
Turtle-Speed Writing
They post more often than I do, though it's spread out amongst a whole bunch of quests. I'm not entirely sure about any dead ones, but s/he does run a heck of a lot more quests at once than I do. Might be a factor.
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- The Great Beyond
Dunno if any of Ganoso's are actually dead, but the updating is so erratic that when I have taken interest it's been impossible to tell if a given one is alive or not. Ganoso is also simply not the best writer from a technical perspective, and I know that I often have trouble getting into even the most compelling premises with the way they write- not sure why.
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Oh, uh, yeah. I was trying to get around saying it, but I often found their updates sort of short and...alright, I guess? At most? But it feels really mean to say something like that out loud.
The one time I did criticize another quest-writer (not to their face, but they saw it, so ouch) on their writing, it utterly embarrassed me and made me feel bad about myself rather quickly.
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- Massholistan
Well, this is just for me personally, but I really don't mind if people are critical of my writing. As long as they give me actual feedback, rather than "fuck you go die in a fire" they can be as critical as they please
Of course, that's just me. So uh, don't take that as leave to go tear apart people.
Cetashwayo
Lord of Ten Thousand Years
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- Across the Horizon
crilltic is a garbo writer, i seen better on wattpad
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- Massholistan
i cry evrytim
Xantalos
Turtle-Speed Writing
*puts on Gordon Ramsay mask*Well, this is just for me personally, but I really don't mind if people are critical of my writing. As long as they give me actual feedback, rather than "fuck you go die in a fire" they can be as critical as they please
IT's FUCKING RAAAAAA- oh wait wrong type of critique. Never mind.
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- Pittsburgh PA USA
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I just noticed this thread today, and the topic of original quests interests me because if I were to make a quest it would be a original one. Not because I don't like fan quests; I love reading fanfiction and fanquests. But I also love doing worldbuilding and I have a strong urge to tweak and change any canon setting until it's barely recognizable; making my own worldbuilding and game system is more fun. Making my own plot, not so much... But anyway that's where I am coming from.
The one thing I remain quite confused about after reading the first page of this thread, and skimming the second page ad last 2 pages is this: Why do we want to encourage original quests? My impression has been that the player demand just isn't there for more original quests. Certainly whenever I float a concept for a new original quest or other kind of game it tends to sink without a trace. But I believe that supply and demand of entertainment is like any other economy, the invisible hand will balance things out and it's a fool's errand to try to interfere with it. If a majority of players prefer fan quests, why would we want to try to wave original quests under their noses? (If this question has already been addressed in the middle of this thread, someone tell me which page to look at.) But in economic terms, original fiction and art of all kinds are an oversaturated market, with too many creative people trying to make a living or gain fame as writers and artists; some of those would rather be dong the fancreation that consumers want more of, but copyright law puts barriers and prejudices in front of that path which push people into the overcrowded original-content field instead.
The one thing I remain quite confused about after reading the first page of this thread, and skimming the second page ad last 2 pages is this: Why do we want to encourage original quests? My impression has been that the player demand just isn't there for more original quests. Certainly whenever I float a concept for a new original quest or other kind of game it tends to sink without a trace. But I believe that supply and demand of entertainment is like any other economy, the invisible hand will balance things out and it's a fool's errand to try to interfere with it. If a majority of players prefer fan quests, why would we want to try to wave original quests under their noses? (If this question has already been addressed in the middle of this thread, someone tell me which page to look at.) But in economic terms, original fiction and art of all kinds are an oversaturated market, with too many creative people trying to make a living or gain fame as writers and artists; some of those would rather be dong the fancreation that consumers want more of, but copyright law puts barriers and prejudices in front of that path which push people into the overcrowded original-content field instead.
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The directors feel they are less likely to get sued over original content, since fanfiction is technically a copyright violation.
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I don't think it's that at all, besides probably not being all that true.
notthepenguins
Neither Spherical Nor Frictionless
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@LordSquishy just likes original fiction, man. If there were legitimate legal concerns about suit I doubt we'd be hosting fanfic at all.
Talos
Has Completed: Three Quests
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Do you have a quote on that? As far as I recall, it was because the quest format itself is still fairly new, and lends itself well to telling stories that could be set in original settings really easily. Original fiction is just really rare amongst what usually gets run, though, and so it was thought wise to encourage people to explore the limits of what a quest can really do.
People want original quests, but they are less willing to take a risk on an original work. You only have to look at some of the runaway successes, like Rihaku's quests or certain others.
Lealope
Not yet invincible
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In your case, I can vouch for irregularity hurting participation, at least in my personal experience. I came by the thread a couple of times, hoping for an update but going from dailyish updates to a couple days of pause threw me off a bit.
Something more along the lines of a traditional PnP RPG. Or, more specifically, like Fallout, with an emphasis on interacting with the world: multiple towns, factions, side quests, etc.
I'm glad I succeeded at this. I wanted to convey that the Springwell Siblings have stumbled into the epilogue of a much larger story. I wanted for there to be a feel of accumulated history.
I was leery of even bringing it up because I feared the readers would demand to see 'the numbers.' As it stands now, the visible character sheets are there to offer a ballpark idea of relative skills.
The quest certainly can be combat heavy, if it comes to that. But I hope it doesn't. GURPS can brutal when it comes to violence.
I imagine future chapters will include phrases such as 'For the next few days, you . . .' and 'A week passes, and . . .' There'll still be small details in the story, but they'll be focused where they're needed.
One of the possible scenarios was 'Disperse the Fog, leave the mansion, everything is fine.' This wouldn't necessarily mean the quest was 'won,' though it certainly could be seen as a stopping point. I suppose the Siblings could driven to Vegas and use Maribel to cheat at Roulette . . . .
On the other hand, there would have been loose plot threads to explore, though it depends on whether the readers would care to pursue them.
Vindictus
XENO
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- Texas
So, it's been almost two weeks now since the survey closed... I'm guessing from the way that @Cetashwayo immediately started churning out updates to the point of burnout in STTS and his statements about that, there were a lot of comments about maintaining momentum and keeping the quest alive, but I'm curious as to whether there were any other general trends in the responses that weren't as immediately obvious from an observer's viewpoint?
Overestimating your ability to commit is tragically common.
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Avalanche
Atypical Netizen
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- Australia
This is a message that all new writers should be shown afore they start.
To be fair when the muse first grabs you, I suspect theres a sense of unlimited power and ambition. Especially when it first takes off and you have a horde of adoring fans.