- Location
- New Delhi, India
If he was, he'd recognize that weird things were happening with Odette and her guns.
EDIT: Could we also be the World of Darkness equivalents of Mashu?
Advance Australia Fair [Old World of Darkness]
If he was, he'd recognize that weird things were happening with Odette and her guns.
EDIT: Could we also be the World of Darkness equivalents of Mashu?
Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
Well its possible that Indrajit can't be classified as a Mage but if that's the case then I'm not sure how Odette managed to take him down. Like if Indrajit was just chilling around and using Spheres to imitate the abilities he had during his life then that's one thing. But if that was Indrajit in his full glory rather then Meghanda flashing back to being Indrajit and temporarily getting a powerup then...well Indrajit's "lol nothing can harm me here" attitude probably would have been justified unless there was a Methuselah hiding in the wings.
- Location
- Hell (Britain)
- Pronouns
- She/They
Agreed. That wasn't Max Indrajit.
Mages may be Bullshit, but he's a guy who mugged the king of almost all of the other gods, and would have killed him if the dude behind creation itself hadn't been willing to make a deal
If Odette and Nathan were fighting THAT Indrajit, they would be deader than dead. Even WITH the arrogance power limiter.
- Location
- Canadia
[X] Follow that hooded woman. Seems strange that there'd be someone you haven't met yet. Maybe they'll be friendly. Maybe they'll be even scarier than you so you can feel a little better about yourself.
Curiosity may have killed the cat, but let's see what it thinks it can do to a rakshasa.
Curiosity may have killed the cat, but let's see what it thinks it can do to a rakshasa.
- Location
- New Delhi, India
These are not Type Moon mages.
These people are not limited by fancy schmancy concepts like "mana points/prana" or "balance".
These are eldritch abominations whose gibbering madness alters reality itself.
They are Space Marine Psykers, and Tzeentch isn't there to stop them. They're Doc Savage with lightning fists, the bastard children of Son Goku and Professor X, shamans who warp time and space and dimensions and god knows what in the realms beyond all man was believed to comprehend.
The only thing that truly weakens mages, their kryptonite, is other eldritch abominations whose gibbering madness alters reality itself the ones who don't know they can do that.
Gilgamesh? Fuck him, his city was 3 square miles/6 square kilometers wide and he killed 2 people in his entire epic. Mages rule entire continents and they've killed billions by randomly getting pissy.
.... This is me exaggerating, but you get the point; Indrajit is broken. Just not THAT broken, because other mages are also broken.
EDIT: Also, wanna see the craziest parts of Hindu mythology?
Go read anything about Hanuman.
ANYTHING.
These people are not limited by fancy schmancy concepts like "mana points/prana" or "balance".
These are eldritch abominations whose gibbering madness alters reality itself.
They are Space Marine Psykers, and Tzeentch isn't there to stop them. They're Doc Savage with lightning fists, the bastard children of Son Goku and Professor X, shamans who warp time and space and dimensions and god knows what in the realms beyond all man was believed to comprehend.
The only thing that truly weakens mages, their kryptonite, is other eldritch abominations whose gibbering madness alters reality itself the ones who don't know they can do that.
Gilgamesh? Fuck him, his city was 3 square miles/6 square kilometers wide and he killed 2 people in his entire epic. Mages rule entire continents and they've killed billions by randomly getting pissy.
.... This is me exaggerating, but you get the point; Indrajit is broken. Just not THAT broken, because other mages are also broken.
EDIT: Also, wanna see the craziest parts of Hindu mythology?
Go read anything about Hanuman.
ANYTHING.
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- in the trash
I was going to say something about how I thought Indrajit was some sort of spirit or incarnae but then I realised he could also have been some sort of weird Marauder manifestation of Meghanda and that explanation actually seems to fit a lot of the datapoints? Someone help me out here.
Although, you guys are really overrating Indrajit's legend. When all legends are true, how can you say yours really makes you invincible? I mean, the Void Engineers break into heaven-like subdimensions and plasma cannon fucking angels for fuck's sake. Just because you think and look like you're a literal deity doesn't mean you are. It just means you've got a massive case of hubris, which you may or may not have the firepower to back up.
EDIT: And like, the key thing is that Mages are literally reality hackers. Being an immortal invincible demigod or the fucking T-3000 only makes you invincible until the other mage's found a way to cheat past your defences. We gave Odette an entire update of talking time to do just that.
Although, you guys are really overrating Indrajit's legend. When all legends are true, how can you say yours really makes you invincible? I mean, the Void Engineers break into heaven-like subdimensions and plasma cannon fucking angels for fuck's sake. Just because you think and look like you're a literal deity doesn't mean you are. It just means you've got a massive case of hubris, which you may or may not have the firepower to back up.
EDIT: And like, the key thing is that Mages are literally reality hackers. Being an immortal invincible demigod or the fucking T-3000 only makes you invincible until the other mage's found a way to cheat past your defences. We gave Odette an entire update of talking time to do just that.
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- New Delhi, India
THANK YOU!
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- in the trash
In gameplay terms, the really key thing here is we just stood there and let Odette keep rolling until she had enough successes to fuck us over. Even if we had primium to countermagic that just boosts the number of successes needed to overwhelm it.
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- Hell (Britain)
- Pronouns
- She/They
Ok, as I don't know oMage well enough, I am willing to believe that high-mid to high-end end tier mages could defeat Indrajit.
However, I still don't see full godmode Indrajit being defeated so...easily.
Like, one spell, that's it? Not from a High tier mage, but someone who seems on the lower middle end of things? Just charge it up long enough, boom, go home?
I dunno, I expect more. Not Nasu levels of bullshit, but something that actually requires effort to take down.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Oh, Indrajit, you glorious bastard, never change. Only you could try complimenting a woman by casually ordering her to make you a sandwitch.
Too bad Meg blacks out during the transformation and will never learn how to be that smooth.
Thanks, Odette. We really needed that. I just hope the raja doesn't hold it against you next time he awakens.
So, what was it? The green flame we saw at the back of her mind? A spell makes sense, but why was she so concerned about whether Meg remembers what happened or not? I can't shake off the feeling that we saw something we were not supposed to, and magecraft and simple wants don't really cut it.
[X] Follow that hooded woman. Seems strange that there'd be someone you haven't met yet. Maybe they'll be friendly. Maybe they'll be even scarier than you so you can feel a little better about yourself.
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Nidhoggr
Suletta Permetta
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[ ] Get your food and just sit alone. Maybe this way you'll have even a morsel of strength left for later when you'll no doubt be interrogated.
I'm torn, I kind of want to pick this because I love me some good old fashioned self inflicted isolation. It builds delicious emotional issues.
On the flipside, it's better for Meg to build emotional connections now because then when everything goes wrong it'll only be more painful. Hurt me more.
[X] Follow that hooded woman. Seems strange that there'd be someone you haven't met yet. Maybe they'll be friendly. Maybe they'll be even scarier than you so you can feel a little better about yourself.
I'm torn, I kind of want to pick this because I love me some good old fashioned self inflicted isolation. It builds delicious emotional issues.
On the flipside, it's better for Meg to build emotional connections now because then when everything goes wrong it'll only be more painful. Hurt me more.
[X] Follow that hooded woman. Seems strange that there'd be someone you haven't met yet. Maybe they'll be friendly. Maybe they'll be even scarier than you so you can feel a little better about yourself.
- Location
- New Delhi, India
[X] Follow that hooded woman. Seems strange that there'd be someone you haven't met yet. Maybe they'll be friendly. Maybe they'll be even scarier than you so you can feel a little better about yourself.
One thing to note here, is that Indrajit somehow learnt the english language without context.
His illusion making skills meant that he could have gotten that knowledge from Meghanda's mind... the mind that hates Indrajit, and so set him up for failure.
One thing to note here, is that Indrajit somehow learnt the english language without context.
His illusion making skills meant that he could have gotten that knowledge from Meghanda's mind... the mind that hates Indrajit, and so set him up for failure.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
It was the vampires that he learned it from:
I got the impression that Meg's and Indrajit's minds are completely separate from each other, for now at least.
- Location
- New Delhi, India
But if there's some overlap, Meg might have beaten Indrajit.
- Location
- Hell (Britain)
- Pronouns
- She/They
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Why are you against an awkward teenager learning how to social from the best?
I do think it's a shame they are seemingly unable to communicate - Meg getting advice on his behavior from the Rakshasa royalty would be very entertaining.
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- Hell (Britain)
- Pronouns
- She/They
Because I had no knowledge about what that particular phrase meant, heard it used in a completely different context, used it without realising what it meant one time, and almost demolished one of the few friendships I ever had, if not the only one I had at the time.Why are you against an awkward teenager learning how to social from the best?
I do think it's a shame we can't communicate - Meg getting advice on his behavior from the Rakshasa royalty would be very entertaining.
Needless to say, I really, really dislike that phrase, even when it's used in a manner thats self aware of what it does mean.
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- New Delhi, India
Thank God Indrajit got shot in the face for that.
- Location
- in the trash
I'll just give you an example from Panopticon Quest. If you have no idea what that is, well never mind. The relevant thing is that it's another oMage quest, so the underlying mechanics are the same.
Take one of the party's characters, a killer cyborg in what can be described as the T-3000 with a plasma cannon. He's hit Enlightment 6, which is a Big Fucking Deal.
During an assault on a Russian Rogue Council Base, he walks through a bunch of concrete walls into a room to find some mage does magic through drugs and loud music, tears through a dozen superpowered Akashic kung commandoes from North Korea like paper (think of those dumb propaganda videos NK makes. Imagine everything inside was true), and then gets turned into a puddle of liquid metal because a fairy tale witch suddenly rose out of the ground and shot him with 20 dice of Life damage, because the other mage had scryed into the future and they had used their knowledge to set a trap. Whoops.
Fortunately, his party member's counterscrying was good enough to hide the fact that he had no organic parts, so it did absolutely nothing other than knock him out of biological emulation (you know, T-3000). But if they had been a bit better they could have worked out what he was and thrown an equal number of Matter dice at him instead. That would really have been bad.
(The lesson in that case was not to rush in without adequate information, but also that Mages can be really dangerous if you give them time to prepare a big killer spell, even if you yourself are a stupidly powerful Mage)
Take one of the party's characters, a killer cyborg in what can be described as the T-3000 with a plasma cannon. He's hit Enlightment 6, which is a Big Fucking Deal.
During an assault on a Russian Rogue Council Base, he walks through a bunch of concrete walls into a room to find some mage does magic through drugs and loud music, tears through a dozen superpowered Akashic kung commandoes from North Korea like paper (think of those dumb propaganda videos NK makes. Imagine everything inside was true), and then gets turned into a puddle of liquid metal because a fairy tale witch suddenly rose out of the ground and shot him with 20 dice of Life damage, because the other mage had scryed into the future and they had used their knowledge to set a trap. Whoops.
Fortunately, his party member's counterscrying was good enough to hide the fact that he had no organic parts, so it did absolutely nothing other than knock him out of biological emulation (you know, T-3000). But if they had been a bit better they could have worked out what he was and thrown an equal number of Matter dice at him instead. That would really have been bad.
(The lesson in that case was not to rush in without adequate information, but also that Mages can be really dangerous if you give them time to prepare a big killer spell, even if you yourself are a stupidly powerful Mage)
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Da Boyz
The Cutest Apocalypse.
Hey remember that time that an Antediluvian woke up and the Technocracy collectively shit itself as it rampaged across a subcontinent? Or that time Tremere managed to walk away from the Order of Hermes at the height of its power despite only being a 4th gen Methuselah at the time? Or how Mages found themselves being culled just like everyone else for centuries on end by Werewolves? Or how Threat Null manages to lack Dynamic Magic and still could steamroll everything else in the setting?
Mages are hax.
Mages are powerful.
Mages can punch far outside their weight class.
Mages can turn into ungodly powerhouses given time and practice.
Mages who think that they can play in the big leagues while only having a decade or two under their belt die screaming.
In WoD terms Indrajit went around beating up Celestines for their lunch money, Celestines being the type of beings which mid level Mages pray in supplication to and Archmages very very politely ask for guidance from. Also do try to keep in mind that this is WoD and most archaeological evidence is Technocratic propaganda, I would be entirely unsurprised if Gilgamesh ruled a sprawling magitech metropolis which numbered in the millions to use your example.
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- in the trash
Well, true, but also keep in mind that this probably isn't be Indrajit at full power of the legends. Even if he's Indrajit reborn, he's still in Meghanda's body. If he was legitimately Indrajit at his peak then yes, I seriously doubt Odette would have been able to so much as make him budge without putting in a lot more effort. But I don't think Meg's going to suddenly awaken to the power level of the Antediluvian or an actual god damn Incarnae this early. Give him more time to grow into it.
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- New Delhi, India
Hey, I did say I was exaggerating.
But yeah, you're right; a fully manifested Indrajit would have beaten the shit out of Odette, or basically any other Mage.
The strongest mages literally don't exist; they became so powerful that they escaped space time for something cooler. Since every Mage we see here is still on Earth, do you think that any of them are at that level?
Obviously not. And the level I mentioned above is basically the only Mage that can kick Indrajit's ass when he's at full power.