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Intentional, yes. I didn't want to make an already large post bigger than it is. After the current votes are processed, I'll reveal the information for the other two, and move on.
A God Am I - The Age of Mythology
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Intentional, yes. I didn't want to make an already large post bigger than it is. After the current votes are processed, I'll reveal the information for the other two, and move on.
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Okay, so does that imply we are going to be picking a focus and lock for each of the three?
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X][Name] Nasorumah
[X][Appearance] Three Headed
[X][Focus] Animal Specialization
[X][Locked] Animal Scrying
[X][Appearance] Three Headed
[X][Locked] Animal Scrying
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I can directly confirm that, yes. After you pick your focus and lock for Menagerie, you'll pick them for Infatuation and Domination as well.
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Shouldn't one specify the animal type when picking Animal Specialization?
Is Taming a separate power, or a skill under Beast Force? It is listed under powers, but that doesn't agree with the description of Animal Specialization, and the description of Beast Force.
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You may if you like, but that vote will not be counted yet. Once Animal Specialization is voted in, we'd do a separate vote on which type is strengthened, and which animal type is locked.
Taming is a separate power. I chopped up the blocks to avoid a giant wall of over a thousand words. Let me see if I can make it clearer in edit.
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Would probably be easier to understand if it were called a power like the rest of them, and Animal Specialization referred to "the other six" instead of "five".
[x] dunk1010
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Since the only appearance voted in for the Shepherd is a three-headed giant serpent, how would everyone feel about this?
I don't own this art, just so we're clear. And I'm absolutely not saying the Shepherd can't have giant serpent form. It's just that your default form has to be humanoid, since Man (uplifted-evolved apes) were sculpted to look like the Atarashani.
I don't own this art, just so we're clear. And I'm absolutely not saying the Shepherd can't have giant serpent form. It's just that your default form has to be humanoid, since Man (uplifted-evolved apes) were sculpted to look like the Atarashani.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
We where?Since the only appearance voted in for the Shepherd is a three-headed giant serpent, how would everyone feel about this?
I don't own this art, just so we're clear. And I'm absolutely not saying the Shepherd can't have giant serpent form. It's just that your default form has to be humanoid, since Man (uplifted-evolved apes) were sculpted to look like the Atarashani.
I apologize for that then, but I actually have a "backup" picture, so please give me a moment.
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I'm invoking a story idea from Doctor Who. Instead of the Time Lords looking like humans, it is the other way around chronologically. Humans take after the appearance of Time Lords.
Or in the case of this quest, the Atarashani came first. They have existed in this "humanoid" state before there were Apes, before there were Primates at all. When they discovered the Great Apes on this new world, their creative minds guided the progress of Man to be more palatable to the Atarashani. Sort of like how we domesticated wolves/canines into the common dog. Only the Atarashani exist on a level where they are able to domesticate early sapient creatures and uplift their evolution.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
How "human-like" are we supposed to be then?
Edit: Uh, hello? I would like to ask how Humanoid/human like we are supposed to be again? I was thinking of being a lizard/snakeman pic as my backup, but it is a lot less human that your suggestion so I would like to know how human we are supposed to be beforehand please?
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That's the thing: the Atarashani can be exactly human in appearance and abilities (but that's them trying their hardest to push down and still be competent), or they can be things like the giant serpent shown. Anywhere in between. But the appearance that you are voting on is not what the Shepherd CAN look like. It's what they look like by default. It's okay for them to look inhuman, but they have to be bipedal with at least one head, at least two arms, at least eight fingers and toes, at least two legs, and preferably no tail. Once we start playing, you can be as wild in appearance as you like.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
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Approved and confirmed. Post incoming.
Chapter 0 - Choosing Your Powers 2
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> Focus: Animal Specialization
Nasorumah, your Menagerie powers are now stronger with regard to Reptiles, even more so with Serpents.
[] Please select a type of Reptile and a type of Non-Reptile that your powers do not effect (this limit can be overcome later).
> Lock: Animal Scrying
You are unable to peer through the eyes of other animals, and cannot use or unlock extra powers under the umbrella of Scrying.
Infatuation is divided into Indomitable Love, Love Eater, Love Amplifier, Passioncraft, Love Sense, Love Inducement, Matchmaker, Heartbreak, Frozen Heart, Instant Arousal, Sex Appeal, Love Aura, Love Affinity, and Love Incarnate.
Indomitable Love means your love is unnaturally strong. Your bond to another person enables you to overcome any and all obstacles in existence. Through your love, you can face anything regardless of how painful or how traumatic the outcome of something can be. No matter how intense the hardship is, you will overcome it. It grants you access to Libido, and generally empowers your other abilities, by allowing you to transcend limits through love.
Love Eater means you can remove love from others and absorb it, allowing you to use the energy as a power source for your various abilities. Victims become apathetic and loveless, and lose any abilities or strength of ability granted by their love.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
Passioncraft means you can create objects out of the immaterial concept and energy of love. It grants you access to Love's Embrace, On Love's Wings, Surrounded By Love, Love Bubble, Made of Love, Beside Myself, Lifted By Love, Tie The Knot, and Fierce Love.
Love Sense means you can detect who is feeling love for others, and who they feel it for, as well as the nature of whether that love is reciprocated and to what degree. It grants you access to Ties That Bind.
Love Inducement means you can cause others to love you or someone else. A weak use of this will simply pacify that relationship on the target's end, while a stronger use can cause obsessive focus. It grants you access to Primal Love.
Matchmaker means you possess a vast, innate understanding of love and romance, and you can use it for various purposes whether helping people find love, or keep their relationship stable. You can increase desirability, weaken inhibitions, or bring estranged lovers back together so they work through their problems. It grants you access to Master Consort.
Heartbreak means you can suppress or negate the emotion or feeling of love, allowing you to cause others to ignore their attachments and any feeling of love. The victim loses the ability to feel unbreakable, eternal, unconditional attachment, turning them into cold, heartless beings.
Frozen Heart means you can remove another person's ability to feel love, making it so they can no longer love. This differs from Heartbreak in its permanence. Heartbreak is willingly sustained by you at personal cost, while Frozen Heart singularly robs the victim of all love to your benefit (you absorb the power of love that they possessed). It grants you access to Lovelock and Love Shield.
Instant Arousal means you can cause others to lust and crave sexual interaction, at the severity you choose, even in a person not directly attracted to you (they lust/crave the sort of person they're attracted to, rather than you). This can even be used on an asexual person, but instead of craving sex with a specific sort of person, they will crave platonic touch, satisfaction, dominance (in case of a dominant person), or submission (in case of a submissive person). It grants you access to Aphrodisiac, Tactile Release, Stimulation, and Magnetic Charisma.
Sex Appeal means you can psychically cause others to be attracted to you, or more specifically wield their attraction to coerce them into revealing information or committing to a certain action.
Love Aura means you can generate an immaterial presence around you that passively amplifies passion or induces love in others.
Love Affinity means that your contact with those you love, or simply the knowledge of and focus on your love, can enhance your physical attributes. To a lesser extent, the love that others feel for their connections will also fuel you the more contact with it you have. This lets you gain strength, speed, durability, or other features. It does not drain or consume love, but is more like a form of inspiration; your love and the love others share pools with your power, making your own attributes improve. It gives you access to Longevity and Prime Condition (among other things).
Love Incarnate means that you are the living physical manifestation of love and are sustained by that love.
[] Please vote for one base power (e.g. Instant Arousal, but not Stimulation), to be your focus. This power will be stronger and easier to use than the others. Having done so, vote for one base power to be locked (you cannot use a locked power at all, until you unlock it later in the quest).
Domination is divided into Command, Mental Push, and Memory Manipulation.
Command means you are able to give a creature an order it cannot disobey, no matter how much the creature wants to. It grants you access to Fellowship.
Mental Push means you are able to cause minds to enter a desired state, causing short-term change in emotions, thoughts, sensations, memories, etc. It grants you access to Awakening, Relaxation, Interrogation, Bewilderment, Sweet Dreams, Agony, Mind Your Manners, Tranquility, and Vertigo.
Memory Manipulation means you are able to control memories of oneself and others, allowing you to modify, fabricate, suppress, influence, and so on. They can change memories to confuse, wipe away certain memories to cause amnesia, discern and provoke nostalgia, and enter the victim into a psychic vision, replaying their memory. It grants you access to Psychometry, Memory Palace, Knowledge Uploading, Memory Theft, Amnesia/Restoration, Making Memories, Recreation, Mind Reading, and Memory Vessel.
[] Please vote for one base power (e.g. Mental Push, but not Awakening), to be your focus. This power will be stronger and easier to use than the others. Having done so, vote for one base power to be locked (you cannot use a locked power at all, until you unlock it later in the quest).
(Remember to vote on all three items: the limits of your Menagerie powers, your focus and lock for Infatuation, and your focus and lock for Domination.)
Nasorumah, your Menagerie powers are now stronger with regard to Reptiles, even more so with Serpents.
[] Please select a type of Reptile and a type of Non-Reptile that your powers do not effect (this limit can be overcome later).
> Lock: Animal Scrying
You are unable to peer through the eyes of other animals, and cannot use or unlock extra powers under the umbrella of Scrying.
Infatuation is divided into Indomitable Love, Love Eater, Love Amplifier, Passioncraft, Love Sense, Love Inducement, Matchmaker, Heartbreak, Frozen Heart, Instant Arousal, Sex Appeal, Love Aura, Love Affinity, and Love Incarnate.
Indomitable Love means your love is unnaturally strong. Your bond to another person enables you to overcome any and all obstacles in existence. Through your love, you can face anything regardless of how painful or how traumatic the outcome of something can be. No matter how intense the hardship is, you will overcome it. It grants you access to Libido, and generally empowers your other abilities, by allowing you to transcend limits through love.
Love Eater means you can remove love from others and absorb it, allowing you to use the energy as a power source for your various abilities. Victims become apathetic and loveless, and lose any abilities or strength of ability granted by their love.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
Passioncraft means you can create objects out of the immaterial concept and energy of love. It grants you access to Love's Embrace, On Love's Wings, Surrounded By Love, Love Bubble, Made of Love, Beside Myself, Lifted By Love, Tie The Knot, and Fierce Love.
Love Sense means you can detect who is feeling love for others, and who they feel it for, as well as the nature of whether that love is reciprocated and to what degree. It grants you access to Ties That Bind.
Love Inducement means you can cause others to love you or someone else. A weak use of this will simply pacify that relationship on the target's end, while a stronger use can cause obsessive focus. It grants you access to Primal Love.
Matchmaker means you possess a vast, innate understanding of love and romance, and you can use it for various purposes whether helping people find love, or keep their relationship stable. You can increase desirability, weaken inhibitions, or bring estranged lovers back together so they work through their problems. It grants you access to Master Consort.
Heartbreak means you can suppress or negate the emotion or feeling of love, allowing you to cause others to ignore their attachments and any feeling of love. The victim loses the ability to feel unbreakable, eternal, unconditional attachment, turning them into cold, heartless beings.
Frozen Heart means you can remove another person's ability to feel love, making it so they can no longer love. This differs from Heartbreak in its permanence. Heartbreak is willingly sustained by you at personal cost, while Frozen Heart singularly robs the victim of all love to your benefit (you absorb the power of love that they possessed). It grants you access to Lovelock and Love Shield.
Instant Arousal means you can cause others to lust and crave sexual interaction, at the severity you choose, even in a person not directly attracted to you (they lust/crave the sort of person they're attracted to, rather than you). This can even be used on an asexual person, but instead of craving sex with a specific sort of person, they will crave platonic touch, satisfaction, dominance (in case of a dominant person), or submission (in case of a submissive person). It grants you access to Aphrodisiac, Tactile Release, Stimulation, and Magnetic Charisma.
Sex Appeal means you can psychically cause others to be attracted to you, or more specifically wield their attraction to coerce them into revealing information or committing to a certain action.
Love Aura means you can generate an immaterial presence around you that passively amplifies passion or induces love in others.
Love Affinity means that your contact with those you love, or simply the knowledge of and focus on your love, can enhance your physical attributes. To a lesser extent, the love that others feel for their connections will also fuel you the more contact with it you have. This lets you gain strength, speed, durability, or other features. It does not drain or consume love, but is more like a form of inspiration; your love and the love others share pools with your power, making your own attributes improve. It gives you access to Longevity and Prime Condition (among other things).
Love Incarnate means that you are the living physical manifestation of love and are sustained by that love.
[] Please vote for one base power (e.g. Instant Arousal, but not Stimulation), to be your focus. This power will be stronger and easier to use than the others. Having done so, vote for one base power to be locked (you cannot use a locked power at all, until you unlock it later in the quest).
Domination is divided into Command, Mental Push, and Memory Manipulation.
Command means you are able to give a creature an order it cannot disobey, no matter how much the creature wants to. It grants you access to Fellowship.
Mental Push means you are able to cause minds to enter a desired state, causing short-term change in emotions, thoughts, sensations, memories, etc. It grants you access to Awakening, Relaxation, Interrogation, Bewilderment, Sweet Dreams, Agony, Mind Your Manners, Tranquility, and Vertigo.
Memory Manipulation means you are able to control memories of oneself and others, allowing you to modify, fabricate, suppress, influence, and so on. They can change memories to confuse, wipe away certain memories to cause amnesia, discern and provoke nostalgia, and enter the victim into a psychic vision, replaying their memory. It grants you access to Psychometry, Memory Palace, Knowledge Uploading, Memory Theft, Amnesia/Restoration, Making Memories, Recreation, Mind Reading, and Memory Vessel.
[] Please vote for one base power (e.g. Mental Push, but not Awakening), to be your focus. This power will be stronger and easier to use than the others. Having done so, vote for one base power to be locked (you cannot use a locked power at all, until you unlock it later in the quest).
(Remember to vote on all three items: the limits of your Menagerie powers, your focus and lock for Infatuation, and your focus and lock for Domination.)
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
Huh... Ok? Sure this is the right place for what you are going for?
Also: why does "Love" have so many subpowers compared to "Domination"?
Wouldn't "Control Love", "See Love", "Increase Love", "Remove Love", "Empowered by Love" and "Understand Love" fit what everything you are offering, besides 'Make Love a Physical Thing" but I am confused why that is a thing, simpler?
Like, "Heartbreak" and "Frozen Heart" really should be in the same "Catagory" of "Killing/removing love" rather than being different powers.
Also: why does "Love" have so many subpowers compared to "Domination"?
Wouldn't "Control Love", "See Love", "Increase Love", "Remove Love", "Empowered by Love" and "Understand Love" fit what everything you are offering, besides 'Make Love a Physical Thing" but I am confused why that is a thing, simpler?
Like, "Heartbreak" and "Frozen Heart" really should be in the same "Catagory" of "Killing/removing love" rather than being different powers.
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DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X] Plan: By the Book.
[X] amphisbaenians and Fish
[X] Focus: Matchmaker
[X] Locked: Love Inducement
[X] Focused: Command
[X] Locked: Memory Manipulation
I really have some misgivings here, and am unsure why "Love" is categorized to have 12 powers, when "Domination" only has 3 and Aminals has only six, much less when so many of them to have only minor differences.
But Honestly: With how amazingy simular some of these are, I can only think of 5 real categories of "Love powers"
If You are willing to take suggestions~
[X] amphisbaenians and Fish
[X] Focus: Matchmaker
[X] Locked: Love Inducement
[X] Focused: Command
[X] Locked: Memory Manipulation
I really have some misgivings here, and am unsure why "Love" is categorized to have 12 powers, when "Domination" only has 3 and Aminals has only six, much less when so many of them to have only minor differences.
But Honestly: With how amazingy simular some of these are, I can only think of 5 real categories of "Love powers"
If You are willing to take suggestions~
Here is my suggested edit: Make love and Domination both have six powers, like Animal did. That way you have some consistency and it should help prevent you from making powers that really do the same thing just slightly differently.
Love
"Primal Lust"
"Love Sense"
"Spreading Love"
"Heart-eater"
"The Power of Love"
Honestly, it is still not well done.
For Domination: Really? Only "Mind Control: Three flavors"?
Here are some suggestions, even if I was only able to come up with five again:
Follower Empowerment: Make those who Obey you more powerful
Leader Empowerment: Become more powerful the more you have follow
Command: As you suggested, give target command and target obeys.
Obedience: Making someone a follower/minion/slave. splits into making people loyal, fearful or just mindlessly obedient by knowing how or by forcing it with power.
all this is extremely basic, but I hope you get my point?
Love
"Primal Lust"
Instant Arousal means you can cause others to lust and crave sexual interaction, at the severity you choose, even in a person not directly attracted to you (they lust/crave the sort of person they're attracted to, rather than you). This can even be used on an asexual person, but instead of craving sex with a specific sort of person, they will crave platonic touch, satisfaction, dominance (in case of a dominant person), or submission (in case of a submissive person). It grants you access to Aphrodisiac, Tactile Release, Stimulation, and Magnetic Charisma.
Sex Appeal means you can psychically cause others to be attracted to you, or more specifically wield their attraction to coerce them into revealing information or committing to a certain action.
Sex Appeal means you can psychically cause others to be attracted to you, or more specifically wield their attraction to coerce them into revealing information or committing to a certain action.
"Love Sense"
Love Sense means you can detect who is feeling love for others, and who they feel it for, as well as the nature of whether that love is reciprocated and to what degree. It grants you access to Ties That Bind.
It is just this.
It is just this.
"Spreading Love"
Love Aura means you can generate an immaterial presence around you that passively amplifies passion or induces love in others.
Love Inducement means you can cause others to love you or someone else. A weak use of this will simply pacify that relationship on the target's end, while a stronger use can cause obsessive focus. It grants you access to Primal Love.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
Matchmaker means you possess a vast, innate understanding of love and romance, and you can use it for various purposes whether helping people find love, or keep their relationship stable. You can increase desirability, weaken inhibitions, or bring estranged lovers back together so they work through their problems. It grants you access to Master Consort.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
Love Inducement means you can cause others to love you or someone else. A weak use of this will simply pacify that relationship on the target's end, while a stronger use can cause obsessive focus. It grants you access to Primal Love.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
Matchmaker means you possess a vast, innate understanding of love and romance, and you can use it for various purposes whether helping people find love, or keep their relationship stable. You can increase desirability, weaken inhibitions, or bring estranged lovers back together so they work through their problems. It grants you access to Master Consort.
Love Amplifier means you can increase the love someone else has, causing them to alternatively become obsessively focused, affectionate, passionate, or purely loving.
"Heart-eater"
Love Eater means you can remove love from others and absorb it, allowing you to use the energy as a power source for your various abilities. Victims become apathetic and loveless, and lose any abilities or strength of ability granted by their love.
Heartbreak means you can suppress or negate the emotion or feeling of love, allowing you to cause others to ignore their attachments and any feeling of love. The victim loses the ability to feel unbreakable, eternal, unconditional attachment, turning them into cold, heartless beings.
Frozen Heart means you can remove another person's ability to feel love, making it so they can no longer love. This differs from Heartbreak in its permanence. Heartbreak is willingly sustained by you at personal cost, while Frozen Heart singularly robs the victim of all love to your benefit (you absorb the power of love that they possessed). It grants you access to Love-lock and Love Shield.
Heartbreak means you can suppress or negate the emotion or feeling of love, allowing you to cause others to ignore their attachments and any feeling of love. The victim loses the ability to feel unbreakable, eternal, unconditional attachment, turning them into cold, heartless beings.
Frozen Heart means you can remove another person's ability to feel love, making it so they can no longer love. This differs from Heartbreak in its permanence. Heartbreak is willingly sustained by you at personal cost, while Frozen Heart singularly robs the victim of all love to your benefit (you absorb the power of love that they possessed). It grants you access to Love-lock and Love Shield.
"The Power of Love"
Love Affinity means that your contact with those you love, or simply the knowledge of and focus on your love, can enhance your physical attributes. To a lesser extent, the love that others feel for their connections will also fuel you the more contact with it you have. This lets you gain strength, speed, durability, or other features. It does not drain or consume love, but is more like a form of inspiration; your love and the love others share pools with your power, making your own attributes improve. It gives you access to Longevity and Prime Condition (among other things).
Indomitable Love means your love is unnaturally strong. Your bond to another person enables you to overcome any and all obstacles in existence. Through your love, you can face anything regardless of how painful or how traumatic the outcome of something can be. No matter how intense the hardship is, you will overcome it. It grants you access to Libido, and generally empowers your other abilities, by allowing you to transcend limits through love.
Indomitable Love means your love is unnaturally strong. Your bond to another person enables you to overcome any and all obstacles in existence. Through your love, you can face anything regardless of how painful or how traumatic the outcome of something can be. No matter how intense the hardship is, you will overcome it. It grants you access to Libido, and generally empowers your other abilities, by allowing you to transcend limits through love.
Honestly, it is still not well done.
For Domination: Really? Only "Mind Control: Three flavors"?
Here are some suggestions, even if I was only able to come up with five again:
Follower Empowerment: Make those who Obey you more powerful
Leader Empowerment: Become more powerful the more you have follow
Command: As you suggested, give target command and target obeys.
Obedience: Making someone a follower/minion/slave. splits into making people loyal, fearful or just mindlessly obedient by knowing how or by forcing it with power.
all this is extremely basic, but I hope you get my point?
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It is what the voters wanted. I presented plenty of other options. Evidently, it IS the right place. That being said, I do intend to play it pretty abstract where that is concerned, so we're not going to be getting into a lot of messy details.
Infatuation is very spread out initially, but most of its avenues lack depth. Domination on the other hand is very narrow at the onset, but each of the three options has a significant amount of depth. Their styles of expansion will play very differently.
There is a method to my madness.
You'll see.
I am not workshopping the design for this quest. Thank you for your suggestions, but they will not be implemented. I have frequently run into readers who take issue with asymmetrical organization, but it is done with purpose.
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
Ok then, Thank you for responding.
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As it stands you will Focus on Matchmaker and lock out Love Eater, but Domination will remain unspecced due to conflicting votes. Is this agreeable?
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Unfortunately Your Frozen Heart and Love Incarnate suggestions were outvoted before you made them, but the latter part helps a lot.
We do come into a conflict regarding Animal Specialization, though. The current votes agree to lock out Fish, but are in conflict about Amphisbaenians or Turtles. So I will put it this way:
Locking out Amphisbaenians is not going to affect the quest. Possibly at all. In mix-maxing terms, this is a solid choice. But as a story choice, it is boring.
Locking out Turtles isn't going to have a massive effect, but about as significant as locking out snakes, not quite as much as locking out lizards. Min-maxing wise, this is still a good choice, though not as solid as the former. As a story choice, it will make a lot of things more interesting. Seeing when and how failing to control turtles will affect things.
What do you want to lock out?
[] Amphisbaenians
[] Testudines
DevilsAdvocate
Always follow the golden rule.
[X] Amphisbaenians
Originally, I was planning on having it just be -Focus: Reptiles without the sub-focus of Snake. as a result, I would prefer to limit the drawback of the sub-focus as much as possible.
Originally, I was planning on having it just be -Focus: Reptiles without the sub-focus of Snake. as a result, I would prefer to limit the drawback of the sub-focus as much as possible.