The Fear is Gone & We Stand as Equals - A Soviet Cold War Quest

[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.
 
So, what are we looking for in our current 5 year plan?

The major issues facing the average russian are the perennial issue of housing, a lack of consumer goods, and perhaps we want to start working on the issue of alcholism now rather than later.

Now, consumer goods are part of the seven year plan, and chemicals are probably useful to have, but housing is probably going to be hard to push past our current allies, and we might as well focus on one thing at a time. So, the question is: what consumer goods do we want to focus on? Cars are traditional, but also fuck cars. Furniture? Better ovens? Microwaves?

As for chemicals, we should probably focus on the useful ones: plastics, sulphuric acid (for fertiliser, for paint making, etc, etc, etc, it's an extremely useful chemical), maybe replacing lead-based paints? Heck, historically the USSR cuts lead from paint in 67, we can order that to be done now and order construction of facilities to make better oils anyway. Otherwise... propylene is very useful, as is sodium hydroxide and carbonate, beneze is useful for everything (and we don't know it causes cancer sad face, but really it's not that risky to handle).
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.

[X] Plan Bread & Roses v2
 
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I think this is something we just have to bite the bullet on. The longer we wait, the worse it'll get. On the other hand we might need some political capital to deal with Czechoslovakia properly so the middle option is tempting in the way middle options generally are.
My worry is that you usually have to set big changes into motion relatively quick after getting into a new office. A half-solution that makes no one happy but sticks around might actively alienate both sides.
 
[X] I will offer my unconditional support for Lomako to begin his removals and reshuffling of the Council of Ministers; as this is a direct continuation of my own policy proposals, he will begin laying down the groundwork for giving OGAS a clear chance to act. Glushkov is well respected and will make for a good successor to the Stalinist Garbuzov.


[X] Plan Bread & Roses v2
 
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[X] Better Living With Chemicals!
For the glorious soviet people's republic, we must first ensure that it is glorious, and then we must ensure that it is to the people's benefit.
  • 50% Increase Sulphuric Acid and other Industrial Acid Production
  • 150% increase in plastics production and other precursor chemicals
  • The complete phasing out of all Lead additives to Paint and Fuel by the end of the plan.
  • 200% Increase in the number of Televisions produced
  • 100% increase in the number of cameras produced, as well as the opening of localised development shops to develop film.
  • Commensurate increase in the amount of film produced.
  • 200% increase in the number of electric home appliances
  • 200% increase in the number of powered hand tools produced. If we can't give them better housing, we can at least enable them to fix it more easily. Also this will help construction, I can't imagine it not doing that.
  • 15% increase in total housing stock by the end of the plan
  • Implementation of a set of Warsaw pact wide standards for our burgeoning computer systems, especially for cables and other connectors
  • 400% increase in all parts of computer manufacturing
  • also make sure that the manufacturers can update to smaller MOSFETs easily and if they don't they can get a free expenses paid trip to siberia

any other suggestions? Are my numbers to high? I have no idea what the scaling should be here.

edit: it's late here, so if people have objections to the numbers or what I'm doing, just like, run off an alternate version of the plan with a different name, I'll probably be asleep.
 
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You need to add Ekranoplans.

Edit: I'd suggest maybe budgeting for a new ministry of technological development so that we can fund projects that don't have immediate military utility.
 
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[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.

I think unless we can pin some major screw up on Garbuzov, we can't replace him so openly yet.
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.
 
[X] I will offer my unconditional support for Lomako to begin his removals and reshuffling of the Council of Ministers; as this is a direct continuation of my own policy proposals, he will begin laying down the groundwork for giving OGAS a clear chance to act. Glushkov is well respected and will make for a good successor to the Stalinist Garbuzov.

[X] Plan Bread & Roses v2
 
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I think this is something we just have to bite the bullet on. The longer we wait, the worse it'll get. On the other hand we might need some political capital to deal with Czechoslovakia properly so the middle option is tempting in the way middle options generally are.

As much as i want to agree with you the fact is that our government is extremely new and lacking in political power and our leader is a women at that. Doing such a bureaucratic purge would scare a lot of the government apparatus against us. Beria got killed when people feared he may go purge 2.0
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.
 
Is anyone else going to propose anything for our Five-Year Plan? We're not supposed to just vote on the Scientific Socialism policy. I can't think of anything because I don't know dick about economic plans or the Soviet economy.
 
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Is anyone else going to propose anything for our Five-Year Plan? We're not supposed to just vote on the Scientific Socialism policy. I can't think of anything because I don't know dick about economic plans or the Soviet economy.
I don't know, we can go for a new era in household games?

New factories to produce poker cards, board games, and an update to Chess (now, with new pieces like The Elephant Troop, BIG Bote and The Commissar! Or alternatives, to pieces like the King, Queen etc with equivalent points and rules for operation).

After all here in the Union, Workers Work hard, but also play hard! Not like those poor Capitalist nations trapped with 40 hour workweeks, and no chance of retirement.
 
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Erm, is it alright to make plans w/o stating specific numbers abt how much we would like to increase? Say, using adjectives (slightly increase, greatly decrease, etc) instead & let the much more knowledgeable scientific planners getting into our govt set the detaills? @Karen
 
New factories to produce poker cards, board games, and an update to Chess (now, with new pieces like The Elephant Troop, BIG Bote and The Commissar! Or alternatives, to pieces like the King, Queen etc with equivalent points and rules for operation).
A popular Soviet toy for boys is miniature figurines of soldiers.

Edit: I'd suggest maybe budgeting for a new ministry of technological development so that we can fund projects that don't have immediate military utility.
Under the current conditions, most likely it will be a committee under the Council of Ministers. For this intersects with the activities of too many ministries and departments.

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[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.


As for the economy, I propose to start a debate. So far I have seen only the emphasis on the chemical industry and the production of televisions. Undoubtedly, it is necessary to eliminate the backlog in the production of consumer goods. However, you are forgetting one more thing - according to the results of the seven-year plan, agricultural production grew by only fifteen percent, instead of the promised seventy. The dependence on food imports has already increased - in particular, we buy grain in the USA. It is necessary to update and reorganize the agricultural complex.
At the same time, Comrade First Secretary promises us a Technical Revolution - and after all, behind the production of electronics there is a huge complex of connected industries and directions.

We also need to carry out a number of organizational updates.
In particular, it is necessary to introduce reserves. EXAMPLE In pursuit of 100% return on equipment, one often achieves "100%" only by average statistical standards. Norm and reality are not quite the same thing. We conducted a special inspection at the factories. It turned out that the usual capacity utilization is in fact - how much would you think? - no more than fifty percent possible. No more than fifty, even in a relatively well-organized production.
These are the facts... So far, enterprises often hide their real capabilities. They are afraid: it is worth showing all the trump cards, as an unlucky planner will immediately give a plan "to the very top", will not leave any reserves at all. And without them, in conditions where the interactions between enterprises are not yet sufficiently coordinated, the tense plan will immediately be in danger of failure.
...And production workers - intuitively - feel the need for reserves. And, not getting the right to keep them openly, officially, they acquire what we call hidden reserves. Well, where there is secrecy, there is excess. The reserves actually hold more than they should. So the official recognition of the usefulness of cold capacities would lead not to "unloading", but to additional strain on production plans. Seventy, eighty percent - more than fifty, the math is simple.

In general, the main problem of our economy - In theory, the object and subject of management coincide - society is self-management. In reality, the subject of management does not coincide with society - there is a struggle between them: for withholding resources, etc.
 
So we can get boys more tiny soldiers, but what can we get girls?
The basis is dolls, strollers, bathtubs, sets of dishes, plastic scissors and combs, paper patterns of dresses, fixed on paper figures. At the same time, we are not talking about Barbie - dolls are usually devoid of secondary and primary sexual characteristics, and resemble babies in shape.
How long you thinking? 6 weeks of reserves? 2 months?
First of all, we are talking about not loading production to its full capacity.
 
[X] I will offer my unconditional support for Lomako to begin his removals and reshuffling of the Council of Ministers; as this is a direct continuation of my own policy proposals, he will begin laying down the groundwork for giving OGAS a clear chance to act. Glushkov is well respected and will make for a good successor to the Stalinist Garbuzov.

I'm in favor of bold action.

I'm not really one for write ins so I can't really help there.
 
[X] I will offer my unconditional support for Lomako to begin his removals and reshuffling of the Council of Ministers; as this is a direct continuation of my own policy proposals, he will begin laying down the groundwork for giving OGAS a clear chance to act. Glushkov is well respected and will make for a good successor to the Stalinist Garbuzov.
 
[x] Conditional support will be given to the major reshuffling of the Finance Ministry, Gosplan and TsSU; to avoid directly slighting those involved in that sector (Kirilenko, Shelepin and Semichastny), the cut-downs won't be as severe for the time being. Garbuzov won't be removed yet, but he'll be slowly pushed out.

We might also want to focus on modernization. From what I have heard, Soviet union focused a lot on establishing new capacities, without modernizing the old stuff. Throwing in modernization of HI could be useful.

We can also go the route of China and pump out massive amount of cheap steel from modernized steel works etc for a massive infrastructural drive. That should make the conservatives happy.
 
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