- Location
- ?????????
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
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Worm Piece (Worm/One Piece)
- Thread starter RavensDagger
- Start date
- Location
- Canada
Noticed that. Confusing given the different wording on the post where he said we could start voting. Changed mine to strength and observation.
You don't know how many training opportunities we'll have. We could even make a stop after a particularly bad battle and train more. Staying at a level where a civilian can drop us is insanity.
We need to do that anyway.
This.
And I've already written why it's necessary. It was fine on Bet where the number of capes wasn't absurd in every battle, and civilians were weaker than here. But we're eventually going to run into crews where every member could can move faster than we can (currently) see and react to. Where every crew member can punch through steel. We're not going to survive without improving our base stats.
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- Location
- canada
I think he meant a relative glass cannon. As in her endurance and speed would lag behind other people around the same skill level while she focused more on helping her crew do better. She would be the mook slayer and coordinator
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
Her being a relative glass cannon still requires a large investment in physical stats, because she is that weak. And she also has no cannon that works against non-mooks right now. You put her against any fishman, and she loses because they can tank and go underwater to avoid suffocation. She badly needs to upgrade any physical stat.
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Honestly after Skypia we can take a break, since the next big time sensitive thing is the War of the Best, which we cannot prevent, even if we tried. Brook is fine where he is, the Strawhats kicked off the Water 7 Arc, and the Davy Back Fight Arc will not happen with Taylor there. So we have an extended time frame between Skypia and Water 7 where we can train more
Edit: unless we are also doing anime Arcs because that adds a few such as G-8
Edit: unless we are also doing anime Arcs because that adds a few such as G-8
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- Location
- Center Of The Universe
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
- Location
- something witty
I don't think there's any disagreement over the idea that we need to raise Taylor's physical stats at some point. Instead, it's a disagreement over timing. I'm fine not doing so in the short-term until Taylor gets her wham moment.
- Location
- USA
Thanks, I changed mine.
- Location
- canada
ummm no she is equal to most glass cannon pirates like Jango, Nami, ussop and the like in terms of survivability. She just is not as strong as the non-glass cannons like Zoro or the other tankier pirates. She should focus on her Strengths for now just for a little longer like the next 2-3 islands and then we need to focus a fair bit on Endurance and speed until they are at least E+.
EDIT: Like we are not supposed to fight against anyone head on ever at any point. We should be fighting battles like Taylor fought Lung, aka with trickery, tactics and Deceit.
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[x] SKILL+SKILL
-[x] Battlefield Command Ability
-[x] Observation Haki
[x] Sogeking
-[x] Battlefield Command Ability
-[x] Observation Haki
[x] Sogeking
- Location
- Texas
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Strength
--[X] Armament Haki
[X] Zoro
If we can upgrade strength twice by training it with Zoro then we should. I would argue for speed because we probably have no chance against people like Zoro and we'd be better off dodging, but seeing as there isn't anyone with a speed stat of C or higher I would rather increase strength two levels if we can.
If we can't upgrade strength two times by training with Zoro I would like to change my vote to
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Speed
--[X] Armament Haki
[X] Zoro
Armament Haki because I've looked through the comments and they say that Armament is kind of like armor and speed because... well... we need to be able to dodge.
--[X] Strength
--[X] Armament Haki
[X] Zoro
If we can upgrade strength twice by training it with Zoro then we should. I would argue for speed because we probably have no chance against people like Zoro and we'd be better off dodging, but seeing as there isn't anyone with a speed stat of C or higher I would rather increase strength two levels if we can.
If we can't upgrade strength two times by training with Zoro I would like to change my vote to
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Speed
--[X] Armament Haki
[X] Zoro
Armament Haki because I've looked through the comments and they say that Armament is kind of like armor and speed because... well... we need to be able to dodge.
- Location
- Ann Arbor
One of the biggest hurdles I'm seeing here is a lot of people are wanting her to be a front line fighter and the other group of people wanting to Max out her special abilities and being able to survive at least 1 punch. A lot of us didn't the Slingshot user because we wanted to replace him with Taylor.
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- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
Did you look at the stat sheet? Cause that is just wrong in every way.
| Physicality | Physicality | Physicality | Physicality | Physicality | Physicality | |||||||||||||||||
| Endurance | F | Endurance | E | Endurance | D | Endurance | C | Endurance | E | Endurance | F | |||||||||||
| Speed | G | Speed | D | Speed | E | Speed | D | Speed | E | Speed | E | |||||||||||
| Strength | G | Strength | E | Strength | C | Strength | D | Strength | F | Strength | F | |||||||||||
| Agility | E | Agility | D | Agility | D | Agility | C | Agility | F | Agility | E |
We are the ones in the first column. Nami is column 2. We are beaten by everyone in every skill, except agility, where we tie kaya and beat Ussop. To even get on Nami's level at the beginning of the story, we need seven (7!) more points spent in physicality. We are so far behind it isn't funny. Even Ussop is ahead of us right now. I'm not asking to be a powerhouse, I'm asking for not instadying verse a competent attacker. Mook Mop Up isn't a viable long term goal for us in this world, and it won't last once mooks get better.
Zoro also has an Endurance of C so it should apply there, and that plan's in 2nd place, so I'd changed my vote to that instead, but I'll approval the others as well.
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Armament Haki
--[X] Endurance
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Strength
--[X] Armament Haki
[X] SKILL + SKILL
--[X] Speed
--[X] Armament Haki
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FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] SKILL + SKILL
-[X] Endurance
-[X] Battlefield Command
[X] Kaya
[X] Nami
Kaya is the most in need of a boost, and she matches Taylor's Endurance.
-[X] Endurance
-[X] Battlefield Command
[X] Kaya
[X] Nami
Kaya is the most in need of a boost, and she matches Taylor's Endurance.
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- Location
- Texas
Actually, that's Luffy.
Also, I've been kind of treating this Quest as a "Hack and Slash" or "Beat Em Up" style game. Luffy and Zoro would be the player characters in this analogy, Kaya would be the quest giver and thus a non-combatant, while Taylor, Nami, and Ussop would be the towers you could build in missions to handle crowd control.
Unfortunately, in this case the towers can be attacked, and I would rather not die if a boss decides we need to go.
Thus in most Hack and Slash and Beat Em Ups you usually need two or three hits to wipe out a wave of Mooks... so my priority is to get Taylor to Mook level as soon as possible.
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- Location
- Ann Arbor
you may want to clean up your votes to just one post to hopefully not piss off our raven. also i am happy to see people finaly understanding how low down Tay is right now.
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FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Honestly we should probably hold off on training haki until the crew can better use it.
- Location
- Ann Arbor
Can you please give us a Key to what the diffrence between Endurance and Strength along with one for the diffrence between Speed and Agility like what dose these numbers contrubute to? like is Endurance how well you take a hit or is that Strength? also dose a high Agility mean you can dodge a bullet where speed just means how fast you get into someones face?
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- Location
- canada
ok fair enough we are weaker than the staff melee fighter and sniper fair point. So we are slightly weaker than the weakest of the strongest Pirate crew in the east blue atm.
- Location
- Ann Arbor
No it is more like if we took away Taylor's bugs and commanding voice and then took away Jango's mind control after that had them go at it Taylor would hands down die.
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