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- Somewhere!
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- She/Her
Canon uses Deceased during Arc 8, so that's what I moved them to.
Wolf Spider (Worm) (Complete)
- Thread starter The Laurent
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Canon uses Deceased during Arc 8, so that's what I moved them to.
- Location
- Australia
Yeah, but isn't her power super slow to ramp up and she has to stay in the one spot? I'd have figured Faultline to get her someplace safe since she is such a space cadet.
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She's also hard to move if she's deep in her power, and she isn't always responsive on bad days.
And I think she'd have trouble leaving her friends behind if she knew they were fighting, too? Faultline can't force the issue during an Endbringer fight that well.
Dr. Mercurious
Strangest Person You Know
- Location
- New England
Why is Faultline here at all? It makes no sense. Honestly, the whole list of dead feels like you threw dice. Besides that I do like how you are handling the search & rescue scenes.
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Actually, no, we decided it without dice. And Faultline actually has a very useful power. Not for directly punching Behemoth, no, but few people have one like that anyways.
Edit: Her power helps set up barriers and otherwise work with other capes to slow him down. All of the dead actually make sense when you think about them, they weren't just, "Roll a d20" or anything. No rolling involved.
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- Location
- Spain
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Dr. Mercurious
Strangest Person You Know
- Location
- New England
I'm not questioning why she's here from a power standpoint, I'm questioning why a mercenary even showed up to a Hero- killer fight? It kinda made all the other deaths feel random.
Yeah, but if you're trying to turn your girlfriend's rep as a supervillain around, it gets you a lot more cred with capes if you show up to the actual Endbringer fight. Also potentially ensuring there's more survivors by getting capes out of danger or back in the game.Very bad idea to take your girlfriend and the dogs into a Endbringer fight..............cuz that was all kinds of scary as hell.
Better to protect the survivors afterwards when the scum comes out.
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I figured she'd have a reason to try to protect her territory/night-club, and it wasn't as if they were going to be directly engaging Behemoth, because they didn't have the powers to do so. It didn't seem safe, but it did seem important.
Leviathan is different in that he is more a generalized wave of destruction. There's no way that the whole city doesn't get at least a little fucked against him.
But Behemoth? You can hope to redirect him so that your particular haven isn't destroyed.
(Or you can be the Merchants and hang back hoping that everyone else except you gets fucked.)
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- Location
- Canada
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- She/Her
Why was Labyrinth anywhere near the fighting? If she's lucid, her power's weaker, and vice versa. Her power also needs time to work, time they don't have. Even if they plopped her right in Behemoth's path, her power would be just as detrimental to whatever she was guarding. I honestly can't think of a single good reason for her to have been anywhere near him.
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Time they don't have? It's Behemoth, not Leviathan. Behemoth is actually surprisingly slow when he's just in marching phase. And considering that Behemoth is actually the Wizard of the three, the only one with a physical long-range single-target attack? Uh.
Edit: I honestly didn't expect this entire update to become a huge argument about this, it's annoying and also slightly baffling.
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Who says she was trying to fight, or that she wanted to be there?
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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- He/Him
Welp, at least it's not water.
"Yeah, Great Danes. Can't you tell?"
"Well, unless you're allergic, but in that case...."
I dunno, given their size, might need to go custom.
With a name like that.... worrying.
HAH!
That he is. And now I'm sad, because my boss's oldest dog of 9 years has cancer, and it's not good. We're talking weeks.
Not one of the people I actually know!
And now humanity's all going to die thanks to Amy.
Even more people I actually know!
That's.... 4th Degree. She gonna need new skin.
"Brutus! Drop the leg!"
And finally, the last person I expected.
Well, yeah. With a name like that.... Time to go.
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- Somewhere!
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Oh? What could be worrying here?
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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- He/Him
- Location
- Malaysia
Elle NOOOOOO!!!
Glory Girl dying is both good and bad for Panacea, more the latter than the former unfortunately.
Grief aside, thank you for going with the armband announcement route @The Laurent. It's something that gets a fair bit of hate, but honestly that is because most of it is poorly done in fandom. I don't know if you did it intentionally or not, but the pacing of your deaths throughout the chapter really gives you a sense of what Behemoth is doing, which when combined with Skitter's bug sense really gives you an idea of what is really going on. It helps when this is Behemoth tbh, because with Leviathan shit happens far too quickly that usually most fanfic authors seem to go with 'Ah, we haven't had a death yet in a while. Let's throw some random ones into the mix!'
Amazing chapter as always.
She either got sniped, or a nearby building collapsed on her. Unlike Leviathan Behemoth is closer to artillery. The 'safe distance' usually mentioned in fights involving him usually refers to the range of his kill aura, not the range of the stuff he can throw, or his earthquakes, or his bolts of lightning, or his fireballs. As it is, Rachel and Taylor are very much in the danger zone, just that Behemoth is not aiming at them.
Organizing a fight against something like the Behemoth is a lot easier said than done, and it is harder still to make it look organized from the outside. Usually they just pop up with little to no warning, and can pop up anywhere around the globe, so unless you have the resources to drill everyone worldwide it's not feasible. Even if you could drill everyone worldwide, it's still going to be difficult because the majority of capes are villains, and the only group with enough reach to pull that off are the heroes.
I have no doubts that assessments are being done to the best of their ability. However convincing villains to just show up at a heavily guarded facility owned by the people who want to see them jailed and are in possession of a prison that is literally unescapable... yeah good luck with that. PR, confidentiality and all that crap is also working against them in this. From what I understand, the more detailed assessments of what an Endbringer does and how they fight are not being made public, so they can't just hand out fliers hoping that they will reach the villains. Releasing info on the Endbringers online might work as well as long as it is not being walled off by bureaucracy, but even then you are still relying on the villains doing their research.
Even with the heroes, the thing with artificially limited powers is that they are so fickle. There is literally no way to test that something will work on an Endbringer except by bringing them to a fight with an Endbringer itself, and after so long having to fight the Endbringers with no success, the mentality of the heroes has already shifted from defeating the Endbringers to minimizing losses from the Endbringers. Still, in Canon, we never really get to see the daily life of a Protectorate Hero for any significant length of time. It's usually only the Wards, who have a high chance of being prevented from drilling against the Endbringers due to the Youth Guard. For all we know, Protectorate Heroes actually have mandatory drills for the Endbringers as well as access to any footage captured during those fights.
Given the circumstances, they are actually doing quite well especially now that they are given time to prepare. Right now they have:
* A clear goal of what to do (evacuating that shelter X is heading towards, Leviathan is trapped prepare to open fire, preparing for the wave that is going to hit, etc.)
* A system that announces casualties so that people know who is still available to keep fighting as well as who is already dead to maximize the extraction teams' time.
* A system that lets everyone know where the Endbringer is unless said Endbringer manages to give everyone a slip.
* A system that helps sort out who needs what kind of help, and where.
* A general idea on whether or not X cape can try to fulfill X role, which makes it a lot easier to assign tasks to movers and healers etc. as well as know what resources are still available.
It's just that we usually see things from the ground, usually from Taylor's PoV, that we don't really get to see how organized Endbringer fights are despite the chaos. We just don't get to see the tens if not hundreds of tasks the AI is assigning to everyone because we only get to listen in from one communicator, nor an overall scene of the fight making it seems a lot more chaotic than it really is.
Glory Girl dying is both good and bad for Panacea, more the latter than the former unfortunately.
Grief aside, thank you for going with the armband announcement route @The Laurent. It's something that gets a fair bit of hate, but honestly that is because most of it is poorly done in fandom. I don't know if you did it intentionally or not, but the pacing of your deaths throughout the chapter really gives you a sense of what Behemoth is doing, which when combined with Skitter's bug sense really gives you an idea of what is really going on. It helps when this is Behemoth tbh, because with Leviathan shit happens far too quickly that usually most fanfic authors seem to go with 'Ah, we haven't had a death yet in a while. Let's throw some random ones into the mix!'
Amazing chapter as always.
She either got sniped, or a nearby building collapsed on her. Unlike Leviathan Behemoth is closer to artillery. The 'safe distance' usually mentioned in fights involving him usually refers to the range of his kill aura, not the range of the stuff he can throw, or his earthquakes, or his bolts of lightning, or his fireballs. As it is, Rachel and Taylor are very much in the danger zone, just that Behemoth is not aiming at them.
Organizing a fight against something like the Behemoth is a lot easier said than done, and it is harder still to make it look organized from the outside. Usually they just pop up with little to no warning, and can pop up anywhere around the globe, so unless you have the resources to drill everyone worldwide it's not feasible. Even if you could drill everyone worldwide, it's still going to be difficult because the majority of capes are villains, and the only group with enough reach to pull that off are the heroes.
I have no doubts that assessments are being done to the best of their ability. However convincing villains to just show up at a heavily guarded facility owned by the people who want to see them jailed and are in possession of a prison that is literally unescapable... yeah good luck with that. PR, confidentiality and all that crap is also working against them in this. From what I understand, the more detailed assessments of what an Endbringer does and how they fight are not being made public, so they can't just hand out fliers hoping that they will reach the villains. Releasing info on the Endbringers online might work as well as long as it is not being walled off by bureaucracy, but even then you are still relying on the villains doing their research.
Even with the heroes, the thing with artificially limited powers is that they are so fickle. There is literally no way to test that something will work on an Endbringer except by bringing them to a fight with an Endbringer itself, and after so long having to fight the Endbringers with no success, the mentality of the heroes has already shifted from defeating the Endbringers to minimizing losses from the Endbringers. Still, in Canon, we never really get to see the daily life of a Protectorate Hero for any significant length of time. It's usually only the Wards, who have a high chance of being prevented from drilling against the Endbringers due to the Youth Guard. For all we know, Protectorate Heroes actually have mandatory drills for the Endbringers as well as access to any footage captured during those fights.
Given the circumstances, they are actually doing quite well especially now that they are given time to prepare. Right now they have:
* A clear goal of what to do (evacuating that shelter X is heading towards, Leviathan is trapped prepare to open fire, preparing for the wave that is going to hit, etc.)
* A system that announces casualties so that people know who is still available to keep fighting as well as who is already dead to maximize the extraction teams' time.
* A system that lets everyone know where the Endbringer is unless said Endbringer manages to give everyone a slip.
* A system that helps sort out who needs what kind of help, and where.
* A general idea on whether or not X cape can try to fulfill X role, which makes it a lot easier to assign tasks to movers and healers etc. as well as know what resources are still available.
It's just that we usually see things from the ground, usually from Taylor's PoV, that we don't really get to see how organized Endbringer fights are despite the chaos. We just don't get to see the tens if not hundreds of tasks the AI is assigning to everyone because we only get to listen in from one communicator, nor an overall scene of the fight making it seems a lot more chaotic than it really is.
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- She/Her
And there are times when the death list isn't shown, and Taylor notes it in her narration instead. It's there when it matters and when it gives a sense to things happening in the fight, not just to have a text scrawl running throughout the chapter.
Honestly I think we used less of it than canon?
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- Canada
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- She/Her
Sorry, I didn't mean anything by it, and I don't have a problem with the other deaths; they all make sense. It was a solid update, if lacking in any particular highlights (save for Taylor watching someone get pulped right in front of her).
I was just baffled by Labyrinth specifically; maybe I'm not remembering how quickly her area grows, but I was under the impression it was really slow. Also, this might be fanon but I'm pretty sure Faultline is someone who cares for the people working for her. If Labyrinth was lucid and able to consent to helping, her power would have been weaker. If she wasn't lucid, Faultline doesn't seem the type to just cart her off and plop her in Behemoth's path.
To clarify, I'm wondering why Labyrinth wasn't evacuated. If nothing else, Newter would probably have left too; can't get close, can't even do search and rescue because of his power, so someone would have been able to take her out.
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- Malaysia
You did. You also had at least twice as many deaths shown as they are capes that are disabled, so it helps paint Behemoth in such a way where he doesn't engage with people as swiftly and often as Leviathan, but when he does, shit sticks.
- Location
- Malaysia
Fair enough. I just go with 'there wasn't enough time to evacuate Labyrinth out of Behemoth's range, and Behemoth threw a car right on top of her from the other side of town because she was one of his minor targets'. Given how Labyrinth helped create the portal in canon, it's not all that far fetched really.
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- Somewhere!
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- She/Her
On the note of targets, does anyone have guesses what Bemmy was coming for this visit? Soft targets in the town or capes?
Vindictus
XENO
- Location
- Texas
I'd assume, much like Levi, he came for the Travelers, in order to kick them into action.
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- They/Them
*sniggers*
Ah yes, the Travelers. Who are totally in Brockton Bay.