Winter is Coming: House Stark Quest

Even without dragons we have to be really cautious.

The Golden Company are the best soldiers in the world, bar none. They've more than earned their reputation.
If we beat Renly soundly enough we can gain the strength of the Reach to add to our own, we can outnumber them 6 to 1 and bury them in corpses if we have to
 
I'm worried that Renly's followers may prefer to side with "Aegon" even if we successfully kill Renly. Sadly, I don't think betting on them weakening each other is an option here, even if geography allowed for it.

If they clash, and Aegon wins, he'll likely absorb much of the Reach's forces. If Renly wins, he likely has the coin to subvert what's left of the Golden Company.
 
If we beat Renly soundly enough we can gain the strength of the Reach to add to our own, we can outnumber them 6 to 1 and bury them in corpses if we have to
Errr... If Renly dies I'm pretty sure we wouldn't get the Reach. Stannis has no love for the Reach after they almost starved him in the siege of Storm's End, and the Reach is well aware that Stannis as king is their worst-case scenario. More likely than not they'll side with F!Aegon as soon as they get the chance.
 
Errr... If Renly dies I'm pretty sure we wouldn't get the Reach. Stannis has no love for the Reach after they almost starved him in the siege of Storm's End, and the Reach is well aware that Stannis as king is their worst-case scenario. More likely than not they'll side with F!Aegon as soon as they get the chance.

That and the Reach would probably marry Marge to F!Aegon so they could still have her be queen.

I'm thinking we need to tell Stannis the practical thing to do would be to combine our armies, leave some of each to besiege King's Landing and make sure it ain't going anywhere, march up and destroy F!Aegon, then have a peace for two months before the fighting starts again. And if we're lucky one or both of our two Baratheon kings dies in the field of battle and we don't have to care about the question anymore.

EDIT - Oh, and Dorne is probably about to join the war too.
 
Are Hobber and Horras Redwyne still hostages in KL?

If they are then the Redwynes are still at home leaving them to possibly defend the Reach from the Greyjoys but that also means Stannis' fleet would be free to try to smash whatever fleet (F)Aegon has. Then we could maybe try and starve the Golden Company at the town they took...if they haven't just moved on but I prefer to imagine the enemy NPC feasting on salt for once.
 
Planning to wait for us and Renly to clash, before picking off the victor? Hoping for discontent among the Riverlander lords?

Any information JonCon and F/Aegon would have about the conflict in Westeros should be months old. It's very unlikely that his intelligence is up to date. Although...perhaps I'm reading too much into this... There's no real reason for him to come this early in the first place. In Canon, it was Tyrion who suggested Aegon hurry up and invade Westeros before his aunt. That clearly hasn't happened yet, so the context and motives behind the move can't be clear.
 
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That and the Reach would probably marry Marge to F!Aegon so they could still have her be queen.

I'm thinking we need to tell Stannis the practical thing to do would be to combine our armies, leave some of each to besiege King's Landing and make sure it ain't going anywhere, march up and destroy F!Aegon, then have a peace for two months before the fighting starts again. And if we're lucky one or both of our two Baratheon kings dies in the field of battle and we don't have to care about the question anymore.

EDIT - Oh, and Dorne is probably about to join the war too.
I'm kind of tempted to call a truce with Joffrey and Tyrion just so we can deal with Aegon quickly. The Lannisters should be all too aware that if F!Aegon takes the throne Casterly Rock will burn in retribution for what happened to Elia and Rhaenys during the Sack of King's Landing. Not an alliance by any means since there's no way in hell we can trust the Lannisters, but we really shouldn't be wasting our forces on each other when we have the Golden Company as our enemy.
 
I'm kind of tempted to call a truce with Joffrey and Tyrion...
Uhh... what? Tyrion is on our side. (At least he should be, I find myself rather disappointed with the lack of precautions we took to ensure he keeps the deal... still, we have Tywin, Jamie, and Myrcella. That should keep him honest, the latter two more than the first)

As for Joffrey and Renly, why would they agree to a truce? Aegon is in the Riverlands, north of the Trident. That means he's very much our problem right now, not theirs.
In Canon, it was Tyrion who suggested Aegon hurry up and invade Westeros before his aunt.
Tyrion's at Casterly Rock, and Aegon already got hitched to the aunt in question, so clearly that's not a factor here.
 
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Perhaps we can send Cavalry to harass Aegon and draw him to a river crossing battle on the Trident. Someone like him won't be able to resist the idea of another battle on the Trident to avenge his father, also once he realises he is stuck, with Riverlanders in awe of Robb in his North, Rivers to his West, Us to his South and the mountains of the Vale to his East, he's going to have a choice of fight us or be slowed down by constant sieges and river crossings.
 
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they land at saltpan righ

let burn their ship
let use the fire tactic
and burn anything that can be food befor them
and whacht the dragon go to the most close/important reserve of food that they know of King landing
 
Tyrion's at Casterly Rock, and Aegon already got hitched to the aunt in question, so clearly that's not a factor here.

I saw no evidence that Dany and Aegon are married. NVM, I'm a dumbass.

We know is that Saltpans was razed and the force that did it had golden banners with dragons above them. The man likely means dragon banners, not actual dragons. The dragons would only just be born if we're following the timeline. Also, I am aware that Tyrion's influence is a non-factor. That's why I brought it up. I was curious as to what brought the timeline forward to such a huge degree and how it could have happened in the few months since we changed canon.
 
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I saw no evidence that Dany and Aegon are married. All we know is that Saltpans was razed and the force that did it had golden banners with dragons above them. The man likely means dragon banners, not actual dragons. The dragons would only just be born if we're following the timeline. Also, I am aware that Tyrion's influence is a non-factor. That's why I brought it up. I was curious as to what brought the timeline forward to such a huge degree and how it could have happened in the few months since we changed canon.
Current working theory: Varys accelerated the timetable once word about Oldstones got out. Without the Lannister army Joffrey's too weak to hold the throne and whoever the Starks join with is guaranteed to win, so the time to strike is now before either of the Baratheons have a chance to take the capitol and make it a fait accompli.

The one question I have is, where are the Dothraki? There seems to be a distinct lack of Dothraki in the invasion force and that requires some explanation considering that (so far as we know) Danaerys should be Drogo's wife, not Aegon's at this juncture.
 
I saw no evidence that Dany and Aegon are married. All we know is that Saltpans was razed and the force that did it had golden banners with dragons above them.


"More rumors had followed, but the facts of the matter had come at last. A silver-haired boy claiming to be the son of Rhaegar Targaryen. The self-proclaimed Aegon VI had wed Rhaegar's exiled sister (the other brother, it seemed, had died) and won the Golden Company to his cause. Ten thousand men. And elephants. You couldn't forget the elephants."

We need to remember Dorne if we go against Aegon right away. Keep the ships and captains aware of a Dornish naval attack.

Maybe the Ironborn will attack the Reach. I doubt Dorne will be able to march through the Storm and to join Aegon.
 
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The one question I have is, where are the Dothraki? There seems to be a distinct lack of Dothraki in the invasion force and that requires some explanation considering that (so far as we know) Danaerys should be Drogo's wife, not Aegon's at this juncture.

If F!Aegon married Dany, then she didn't marry Khal Drogo, so there's no reason the Dothraki would join them.
 
The one question I have is, where are the Dothraki? There seems to be a distinct lack of Dothraki in the invasion force and that requires some explanation considering that (so far as we know) Danaerys should be Drogo's wife, not Aegon's at this juncture.

Dany shouldn't be here yet. You'd have to do a lot of logistical and chronological gymnastics for Dany to be part of the same invasion force as Aegon. She should be in the Red Wastes or Qarth by now...

"More rumors had followed, but the facts of the matter had come at last. A silver-haired boy claiming to be the son of Rhaegar Targaryen. The self-proclaimed Aegon VI had wed Rhaegar's exiled sister (the other brother, it seemed, had died) and won the Golden Company to his cause. Ten thousand men. And elephants. You couldn't forget the elephants."

I don't know how I managed to miss that... But still... that's a temporal impossibility... Dany should have already married Khal Drogo by the time Robb marched south. *sigh* I suppose I should stop taking this quest so seriously. The QM did say this was crack after all.
 
I don't know how I managed to miss that... But still... that's a temporal impossibility... Dany should have already married Khal Drogo by the time Robb marched south. *sigh* I suppose I should stop taking this quest so seriously. The QM did say this was crack after all.

Daenerys did marry Khal Drogo. Then things happened off-screen due to background rolls. She is no longer married to Khal Drogo. Though she does have a memento of their time together.

Unrelated, but don't rely on a traumatized boy for an accurate count of enemy forces.
 
Whatever plan we come up with we need contingencies, because at this point we can't be entirely sure who's doing what or how things will play out.

The Iron Fleet is probably going to be reaving in the Reach, but for all we know Renly could be cutting a deal with them.

Yeah...not at all likely, but we need to think worst case.

Reaching out to Renly to combine forces to take down the Golden Company is a good idea, but we need an alternative in case that doesn't work out. Even if it does, we still need a game plan. Not only for the Golden Company, but for King's Landing. And I'd prefer to not leave ourselves vulnerable in case Tyrion does decide to do something silly.

Daenerys did marry Khal Drogo. Then things happened off-screen due to background rolls. She is no longer married to Khal Drogo. Though she does have a memento of their time together.

Unrelated, but don't rely on a traumatized boy for an accurate count of enemy forces.

Either dragons or the little stallion that will mount the world. Either way, there could be Dothraki backing them up.
 
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