Remove ads

WI: All people of SV and SB are send to Warhammer Fantasy…

Renars

Renars

Location
Latvia, Riga
… as Nier: Automata androids.

To elaborate:

-every person that uses, watches, and/or lurks in both SV and SB wakes up and realizes they are sent to Warhammer Fantasy world Mallus (so that our numbers aren't too small/insignificant).

-Our new bodies are similar to our original bodies, just optimized as per N:A quality/standard/aesthetic. Yes, that includes the mind/soul transfer technology.
- - Speaking of minds, we retain our experiences, memories and are largely the same… but we also have some "basic" android info and "instincts" downloaded so that we adapt 'slightly' easier.

-We each gain our personal Pod (that has our current info as well as what we had in our computers/phones before transfer), as well as a large number of "maintenance" Pods, to keep facilities working.

-Nier technology/magic has their Maso (magic element) substituted with Aethyr and works the same way. Meaning Android technology can "manufacture" or "draw" Aethyr energy into usable form like Maso as depicted in N:A (aka Aethyr/Dhar/Winds of Magic/Qhaysh/whatever is Maso equivalent of alternative energy/fuel, more-or-less the same).

-As per Nier: Automata lore Androids are highly resistant to outside corruption, but not fully immune. Meaning, Chaos and mind-affecting magics will have to invest more work than usual to have a diminished effect. Willing conversion is possible, though getting there is a different matter.

-In order to not outright die upon arrival, we all wake up on Bunker, systems working normally, with energy and material reserves full, all necessary information and technology to build asteroid/moon mining equipment/drones.

Oh, and we arrived around 5 years after the death of Magnus the Pious.

--
Addendum: We're greeted and we "instinctively" acknowledge our "unofficial leaders": Commander White, Jackass, A2, Devola, and Popola.
White has the overall control, her right hand is Jackass, left - A2, with Devola and Popola.

For the next 10-to-20 years, they are our leaders till we calm down and get used to this unexpected change, during that time and afterward they are our "elders/teachers/advisors" so to say.
--

How will WHF events change? What will happen?

-–-
Edit: P.S. same thread in SB: here.
 
Last edited:
Glory to mankind. I hate to say it but their might be chaos and we might destroy ourselves unless commander white has a kill switch or mind control to ensure people don't go crazy and are actually willing to help the humans in warhammer fantasy.
 
First off happy to have you, first commenter >.<

As said in OP, we (both SVers and SBers) have "basic" android info and "instincts" downloaded and some of those identify Commander White and her "Inner Council" as authority figures and "unofficial leaders".

For the first 10-20 years, we're partially compelled to listen to her, as we're compelled to listen to Police officers or Politicians.

She's:
Android leader, military veteran, "hardass" that still cares for her people/troops, and per commenter wishes (SB) I added her and 4 others as the overall central authority and stabilizing figure, for the first 10-20 years depending on how well we adapt.
It became "part of the package" after people asked for stability. BUT. She won't be an autocrat, has her "Inner Council" and she would be willing to listen and consider our rational/reasonable explanations. (And no, this is NOT brainwashing, jeez).

She, Jackass, A2, Devola, and Popola first and foremost are our "elders/teachers/advisors". the first 10-20 years are to "ease" us to our new situation

+ this is enough OCP problem for us to deal with AND people act noticeably differently when in public, without "internet anonymity".


-
Addendum ('expertise'):
Commander White (Military: Strategy | Psychology: Leadership | Culture(small): Human | Intrigue: Command),
A2 (Military: Tactics | Military: Combat | Intrigue: SpecOps),
Jackass (Intelligence: | Military: Guerilla | Science: ),
Devola (Medic: Android/Human | History: Human | Psychology: Human | Hacking ),
Popola (Medic: Android/Human | Culture: Human | Psychology: Human | Diplomacy: )
 
Last edited:
Hi renars still it would be better if she had some way to put down a riot or rebellion. But with cmdr white in charge things have a chance of turning out ok. If we don't destroy ourselves she will use the resources at hand to help humanity. That means partnerships with the Empire and Cathay since those are the largest human nations. Also providing help to Kislev would be on her agenda as they are the bulwark against chaos in the old world. I'm unsure how she would react to the High Elves and Dwarfs Nier automata had non humans the robots and aliens but they were enemies she fought against. I don't know if she would see those races as threats or not. And the other question is how to deal with Norsca they aren't mutants and are probably still human, can she order their deaths even if they are working towards the destruction of the world? Also what about vampires are they human genetically yes but they have no heartbeat how would the androids react to this I'm not sure.
 
lotho said:
snip
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Note that her and her "Inner Council's" primary goal is to calm us down, "stabilize our thought", and after 10-20 years she abdicates or we re-elect her, she, Jackass, A2, Devola, and Popola, will still be our "elders/teachers/advisors".

They will "lead/guide" us at a minimum of 10 years if we adapt quickly, which should be enough time for us to become "self-governing".
She isn't "dictator supreme" and though has her 'preferences', will listen to reasonable/rational explanations and what "we" decide.

Though surprised you haven't commented about SpaceBattlers, they had a number of discussions about how SB and SV can't work together, mainly because of SufficientVelocity members being a bit more... opinionated.


lotho said:
providing help
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And this depends. Personally, I want to aid Mallus, to make it less... well, less GameWorkshop "all is bad and evil wins, forever", and more hopeful.
As I said on SB:
Rip-Rock said:
Though I understand: WH Fantasy and its counterpart is a world with "no hope" so of course, people would feel it's better to either do nothing (hide, run away) or die (suicide).
Both at a glance seem preferable (heck not denying such thoughts would and are passing through)..

..but isn't that what evil wants? For the Good men and women to not do anything or better yet help by either running away and causing more disorder?

...
...

...And really I thought "we" could be the underlying hope for this setting, the ones that make it clear this isn't a doomed place, that pain and suffering ISN'T the norm, and things can get better.

I mean we could pool our knowledge and decide actions, and yes, definitely aid "uplifting" local non-psycho species (some Human civilizations, Asur, Dawi, some Asrai) and generally making things better.
"This is "reality" so Game Workshop's heavy-handed status quo of "it can only get worse" doesn't work. WE CAN CHANGE THINGS"!!!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

But I wanted a discussion and to hear SV (including your's) thoughts.


-
Addendum:
-As I said in OP, android bodies/minds are particularly resistant to outside influence, and corruption would require either concentrated effort (a disproportionate action by Warp-constructs mostly attempted to their "highest value targets", for relatively little gain) or deliberate acceptance by an (insane) person.

-To elaborate: far as I understood Androids are +/- the culmination of Project Gestalt. Meaning if you want to stop being an android/transhuman, clone a body and transfer your soul there. You'll be human, with all that it implies.

-In time we could build/create/birth more androids or even humans (whether through cloning or natural means). Though it's a big decision we'll have to carefully consider.
 
So now there is an SV version of this thread. I wonder if this too will turn into a debate of how to purge the other board. Will the impressions of those discussing this on SB ring true?
 
Z: Well, the first and most obvious problem is that very few of the people who got isekai'd have even the slightest clue how to operate a military logistics, procurement, and industrial system. Even with Pods, that means critical supply chains are likely to end up as a complete and utter disaster, severely hampering operational effectiveness. The second big problem is that there's hardly any ideological coherence, and there are indeed several factions of androids out to kill all the others.

Z: Combined, these factors probably result in a faction that's both effectively incapable of prosecuting offensive operations due to horrible logistics, and is also undergoing a constant state of civil war.
 
the moment we inevitably introduce memes into the android ecosystem something big is going to happen. i have no clue what could happen. i dont even know if it would be a positive or negative outcome.

but it will be big.
 
pingas plight said:
snip
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
... YOU are the 'android'. Repeat: in this scenario, every person that uses, watches, and/or lurks either spacebattles or sufficientvelocity are transported to whf world Mallus AND transformed into Nier: Automata androids. Besides White, Jackass, A2, Devola, Popola every other android on that station is a former human from this world.

Hopefully this resolved this misunderstanding.

I just write said:
snip
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Are you sure? People tend to act and even think differently when in public, especially without internet anonimity.
Sure disagreements are expected, groups will form, but wouldn't we still work together? Wouldn't we find ways to self-govern and actually deal with our short-term and long-term problems?

are humans really that .. disappointing?



P.S. same thread in SB: here.
 
sooo... the bunker is in space and we can use any magic as fuel.

........ and the moon is made out of warpstone

so can we mine the moon out of existence

edict: but i will absolute read if some write this story
 
Last edited:
Warlord D Thoran said:
so can we mine the moon out of existence
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
In time. As said in OP, 'we' are very resistant to "magic corruption" but NOT immune. Small quantities are somewhat safe (as safe as fantasy equivalent of uranium can be), but Mannslieb has celestial bodies' weight worth of that stuff. :wat2:

Not to mention its effect on reality as mentioned in lore (and wiki, and novels, etc.). After all, not all our equipment would be as "safe".

Remote mining would be dangerous, but possible, though it would require some R&D to make it feasible, considering we'd have alternative "fuels".

Another reason why getting our shit together and do something about Mallus (i.e. trying to fix SOME of its' problems).
 
Renars said:
In time. As said in OP, 'we' are very resistant to "magic corruption" but NOT immune. Small quantities are somewhat safe (as safe as fantasy equivalent of uranium can be), but Mannslieb has celestial bodies' weight worth of that stuff. :wat2:

Not to mention its effect on reality as mentioned in lore (and wiki, and novels, etc.). After all, not all our equipment would be as "safe".

Remote mining would be dangerous, but possible, though it would require some R&D to make it feasible, considering we'd have alternative "fuels".

Another reason why getting our shit together and do something about Mallus (i.e. trying to fix SOME of its' problems).
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I was just thinking of a way to try and get rid of the evil moon as so many problems come from it/ most beastmen

as I don't think blowing out the moon will be healthy for the world
 
Warlord D Thoran said:
I was just thinking of a way to try and get rid of the evil moon as so many problems come from it/ most beastmen

as I don't think blowing out the moon will be healthy for the world
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And that's good, but that's a "megaproject" even by Isaac Arthur's standards. Time, resources, planning, organization. All that needs to be in order to successfully deal with it.

Besides, research might open new ways to deal with it. (fields that restrict/limit's warpstone corruption, interactions with the Aethyr/Winds-of-Magic, "safe burning" of warpstones thus providing energy, and something we could "sell" to Elves, Humans, Dawi of Mallus, etc.)

Though prefer trade/economy, diplomacy, policy changes, military interventions would, unfortunately, be inevitable. Maybe by that time, we'd have a war-sat network to level the playing field?
 
Renars said:
Maybe by that time, we'd have a war-sat network to level the playing field?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Just fill pods with explosives. Sure almost everyone involved has no idea what they're doing, but all you really need is a few scouts to spot targets. We're talking about orbital artillery from day one against a setting that's at an 18th century tech level at best even with magic.
 
Sterr said:
-snip-
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Possible, but I'd prefer simple drones, not potentially sentient beings. But all that would come later after we're organized and understanding what we're doing.

We're talking about orbital artillery from day one against a setting that's at an 18th century tech level at best even with magic.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Yeah. No, we're not. Ignoring how whf spells alter the playing field (hello Azyr, the blue Celestial wind), There are also Lizardmen and especially Skaven (specifically Ikit Claw, the rocket pioneer and definitely one, but not the only, on project TwinTailedComet).

Not saying it's impossible, but we'd have to deal with our internal matter first before we decide to intervene and change Mallus.
 
Renars said:
Yeah. No, we're not. Ignoring how whf spells alter the playing field (hello Azyr, the blue Celestial wind), There are also Lizardmen and especially Skaven (specifically Ikit Claw, the rocket pioneer and definitely one, but not the only, on project TwinTailedComet).
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The Skaven's technology is as likely to kill them as anyone else even if you go through the effort of finding them (ratling guns, rockets, etc aren't typical of their tech, they're very new as of the end of the setting and are rare along with the rest of their more advanced tech), the dwarves don't use most of what they have, the Slann are so far beyond the weight class of anything else in the setting that it doesn't make sense to even consider fighting them directly unless you're someone like Nagash. If they decide to psychically blap anyone who comes to the surface to avoid screwing up the Old One's plan that's the end of the scenario right there; if they send the lizardmen then the worst you need to worry about is fantasy Wotjek with an artillery backpack. The Empire is just starting to adopt breech loading, and their artillery is impractically large compared to real life for the technology it uses. The other human factions are behind them. The elves have advanced magic and centuries of experience, but they don't really have equivalents to more modern weapon systems.

Yorha androids aren't at the top of WHFB's weight scale, not even close. But compared to what most factions can regularly field, having a few million instantly makes you a global superpower. Even if most visitors don't count for your scenario we're talking about probably hundreds of thousands of androids with enhanced strength, durability, energy shields, brief hologram generation, imprecise telekinesis, and a machine gun robot. Plus the required secondary technologies to make space industry a thing means orbital bombardment is in reach very quickly.
 
Last edited:
So either run away, do a stupid, kill each other, suicide, and that's it (for pretty much every-verse!).

*sigh* and here I hoped there would be something normal/good, but no. Either way, thanks for your viewpoint and opinion.
 
Last edited:
My belief is that it may go as I said it would on the same post on SB.

The more sensible ones will likely try and form groups of Androids to help make things go smoother, those who know little about WHF or no knowledge at all will join said groups.
The less sensible will be purged by the more sensible, aka, the people fighting both their fellow SB and SV, even the ones on both sides(moi for example), there are also going to be purges if those who immediately will or have gone to chaos. Largely because of their "shit its warhammer, worship chaos for better survavability." Methinks Khornates are going to be common as hell.
The sensible "leaders" will follow the currently listed ones.
Knowing that we're in the bunker that may mean we can access tech. Such as android production, and of course, weapons.
Once we're properly ready, and things are calm for SBers and SVers, we'll likely tryband advance our tech so we can A. help the people on the planet, or B, LEAVE
 
I probably die not realizing I'm an android by trying to eat whatever's closest at hand :p
 
SnapSnaptheBatBa said:
I probably die not realizing I'm an android by trying to eat whatever's closest at hand :p
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Then you'll be either supremely unlucky or lucky. I mean IIRC they really needed water once in a while to function tip-top shape, but android could eat human food with, I guess, no negative consequences.

So, if we need at least water as the only material resource (unrealistic but for simplicity's sake), running away with STL ships would be impossible without first stockpiling water (or other key resources).


Unfortunately, if people decide to read, or "do something" here, we'll never know
 
They absolutely could not eat without dying in game, so I probably misunderstood the prompt to begin with.
 
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top