What if:Mallus neighbors for Tamriel

[Dlan the Wizard]

It is the year 433 of the third era, when scarlet maws of oblivion should have unleash nine hell's upon Tamriel, but instead, through intervention of mysterious powers (read:ROB).
Not daedra, but strange, new human nations are summoned upon Tamriel.

Those nations are: Empire of Sigmar of the year 2502 IC.

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Which is (to be more precise) adjacent with Elsweyr through a many miles long, natural bridge of newly formed land that starts from Ostland.

And Bretonnia of the year 2502 IC.

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Which is now a direct neighbor with High rock, through its former coast.
Basically this:

(Sorry for quality, but this wasn't supossed to be perfect anyway. Just so you could imagine how Empire and Bretonnia are set towards Tamriel. Neithier size or precise arrangement of land are accurate to how they actually are. Just a relative reference.)

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All deities officially (so no chaos gods) worshipped in those lands (Sigmar, Ulfric, etc.) are also transported by ROB into Aetherius and still can interact with they worshippers as they did on Mallus.

Greenskins are purged from Empire and Bretonnia by ROB, but beastmen, skaven, mutants and undead that lived in those lands, are still here. The same is true for order races such as dwarfs or elves that were in the empire and bretonnia during isot.

Winds of magic no longer are blowing, but instead, people who were able to effectively use winds (said:Bright wizard) can effectively use magicka.
And for example, previously mentioned Bright wizard who mastered aqshy, now is a master of destruction and can even recreate spells from his lore through magicka.
Dwarfs, are basically race of Atronachs (the birthsight, not daedra)

So having the technical details behind us...
What happens?

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

No one?
Like... How would people from Mallus react to just the fact, that they aren't...well...on Mallus? For example:Elves who came to Empire to trade or help mage colleges are now stuck in human lands and without their gods (unless we count the Cadai as transported, because they worship obviously isn't illegal in Empire or Bretonnia), are stuck after death with: A-Know, but still not elven gods. B-Alien and "elven" gods like Auri-El, or C-Nothing.

Or how Uriel Septim VII would react when his visions did not come true? And what would he and elder council do about two independent from empire nations?

Or chaos cultists when chaos gods and daemons wouldn't respond and their artifacts would stop working or straight up cease to exist, and mutations either fade or kill them?

There's tons of interesting discussion and ideas, on how people would react to each other or their metaphysical/spiritual/political situation right now.

 

[grimnir gotrkson]

No one?
Like... How would people from Mallus react to just the fact, that they aren't...well...on Mallus? For example:Elves who came to Empire to trade or help mage colleges are now stuck in human lands and without their gods (unless we count the Cadai as transported, because they worship obviously isn't illegal in Empire or Bretonnia), are stuck after death with: A-Know, but still not elven gods. B-Alien and "elven" gods like Auri-El, or C-Nothing.

Or how Uriel Septim VII would react when his visions did not come true? And what would he and elder council do about two independent from empire nations?

Or chaos cultists when chaos gods and daemons wouldn't respond and their artifacts would stop working or straight up cease to exist, and mutations either fade or kill them?

There's tons of interesting discussion and ideas, on how people would react to each other or their metaphysical/spiritual/political situation right now.

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oh come on bro if human gods are there the cadia would be there too if they weren't how would that make sense since were taking Ulthuan I'm assuming from your post.

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

oh come on bro if human gods are there the cadia would be there too if they weren't how would that make sense since were taking Ulthuan I'm assuming from your post.

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Emm..No. Only Bretonnia and Empire of Sigmar are transported to Nirn, and gods that are transported are only those that are legally worshipped in previously mentioned, warhammer nations.

What I mean is that, theoretically we can count elven gods as transported, the same dwarf gods because they worship isn't illegal, like chaos cults.

But on the other hand, they aren't also legally recognized (well, maybe elven gods because humans know little about elven faith, the dwarven gods are definitely recognized) and there is the problem.

Because only legally worshiped, but therefore also recognized gods will be transported. There will be High elves during isot of Empire and Bretonnia. Few, yes. But they will be, as traders or mages, and there will be several wood elves, doing some feyish bullshit. And theoretically their gods maybe transported, because they can worship them. But they can also stay in warhammer universe, because from a certain point of view, they may also not be legal at the same time.

 

[16 characters]

Not a bad idea but needs a bit more definition to work off of. For example, does warpstone still work, do runes still work? What happens to beastmen without the power of the four pulsing through them, do they get weaker, or perhaps more intelligent without the constant whisperings in their ears?

The empire and Bretonnia would be mostly better off at least immediately without Norsca I'd say. I'd say there would be rejoicing at first.
I do wonder why the empire and Bretonnia were split up for this map though, they directly neighbor each other on Mallus? I'm also not sure why Kislev got cut out of this, kislev without any neighbors is going to have a rougher time back on mallus that's for sure.

I think the empire would want to immediately start exploring trying to put out feelers and colonists into this new world. Bretonnia might turn inwards trying to populate and tame all their lands that had just the shortest while ago

What is really interesting here is thinking about what the Skaven would do completely unyoked from The Horned Rat as this scenario necessitates, I think they'd suffer a crisis of faith and start a new civil war as they look for something to respond to their prayers and whatnot, and with skavenblight being gone too that would be mentally very bad for them, many I think would also be among the first to flee directly into Tamriel and those there I think would end up as entirely new clans within generations. It would be interesting to see if they'd feel forced to ally themselves with other polities when so isolated again like what happened with eshin in cathay.

The dwarves would probably follow next if there are suddenly significantly more mountains for them to explore.

Sorry I know that's a bit vague but it is what is coming to me as a start.
Are pegasi native to tamriel? If not their spread would be liable to change things overtime here. Heck, the biological exchange of disease both ways would likely be devastating, I imagine wwithin 20 years almost everyone possibly excluding the very hardy Skaven would be up to their eyeballs struggling with new viruses and bacteria their bodies had never before met.

I'd say more but i've been out of touch with the lore of the Eldar Scrolls for long enough that I feel I'd butcher it and I don't even know where in that timeline we are yet.

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

Sorry for answering so late, but my technical college kept me busy. Also, before you ask, TES is abbreviation for the elder scrolls. Which I like.

Not a bad idea but needs a bit more definition to work off of. For example, does warpstone still work, do runes still work? What happens to beastmen without the power of the four pulsing through them, do they get weaker, or perhaps more intelligent without the constant whisperings in their ears?

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Warpstone still works, the same runes. They simple now use/produce TES magic (magicka) instead of warhammer one (winds).

As for beastmen and skaven... I let such things be decided by users themselves as they see fit.
In my opinion, without chaos gods (and even with them) beastmen and other mutants can become a peaceful race if they only have right opportunities and will.

The empire and Bretonnia would be mostly better off at least immediately without Norsca I'd say. I'd say there would be rejoicing at first.
I do wonder why the empire and Bretonnia were split up for this map though, they directly neighbor each other on Mallus? I'm also not sure why Kislev got cut out of this, kislev without any neighbors is going to have a rougher time back on mallus that's for sure.

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No real reasons beyond my whim.
I simple wanted Bretonnia and Empire, because they one of the most explored and well know factions.
And for split...The closest neighbors of Empire are now countries of intelligent beastmen (khajiit) and short, accepting cannibalism elves (Bosmer).
And Bretonnia is now adjacent with nation of all spellcaster adventures, that superficially are similiar to them.

I simple wanted to see discussion about culture clash, how would A react to the B etc.etc. No greater logic, beyond that.

Also...I de facto wanted to put Kislev too, and have it close to Skyrim, but I also wanted the isoted nations to have unique ways of being connected to Tamriel. And so Empire is mostly surrounded by ocean, but giant natural bridge is connecting it to Elsweyr.
And Bretonnia is now a direct part of continent.
I simple didn't have idea for Kislev. Sorry.

I think the empire would want to immediately start exploring trying to put out feelers and colonists into this new world. Bretonnia might turn inwards trying to populate and tame all their lands that had just the shortest while ago

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So, how do you think conctact of tamrielic empire and sigmaric one would go? Most of the continent is already controled. Or they reaction at such things like: Legal worship of chaos god like beings (daedric princes), legal necromancy or coexisting beastfolk (khajit-again-for example) or greenskins (TES orcs)

What is really interesting here is thinking about what the Skaven would do completely unyoked from The Horned Rat as this scenario necessitates, I think they'd suffer a crisis of faith and start a new civil war as they look for something to respond to their prayers and whatnot, and with skavenblight being gone too that would be mentally very bad for them, many I think would also be among the first to flee directly into Tamriel and those there I think would end up as entirely new clans within generations. It would be interesting to see if they'd feel forced to ally themselves with other polities when so isolated again like what happened with eshin in cathay.

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Yay. I agree with this.

The dwarves would probably follow next if there are suddenly significantly more mountains for them to explore.

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By the way. How do you think dwarfs living in the Empire, react to their new, magical powers? They now posses potent ability of absorbing TES magic and using it. And that, on top of that, without turning to stone, like dawi zhar.

Sorry I know that's a bit vague but it is what is coming to me as a start.
Are pegasi native to tamriel? If not their spread would be liable to change things overtime here. Heck, the biological exchange of disease both ways would likely be devastating, I imagine wwithin 20 years almost everyone possibly excluding the very hardy Skaven would be up to their eyeballs struggling with new viruses and bacteria their bodies had never before met.

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As far is I know, no. Pegasi don't exist in TES or they are very unique and semi-mythical creatures. Similary to unicorns. So I think unicorns and pegusi of Bretonnia, would be a huge shock for people of Tamriel. Or atleast for commoners. But I don't think pegasi, would make a large change. There already exist creatures that are strong and have ability of fly in TES. Gryphon for example.

I also think that Argonians would be okay too, during outbreaks of disease. Similary to Skaven, Argonians also have large resistance/immunity against disease.

I'd say more but i've been out of touch with the lore of the Eldar Scrolls for long enough that I feel I'd butcher it and I don't even know where in that timeline we are yet.

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And we are in the year 433 of the third era. So the time of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.

 

[16 characters]

Griffins in TES sound like they have never been captivley breed in any numbers unlike pegasi though,heck sounds like they can't even be hatched conventionally....which may be why. That is why such is liable to become significant.
I think the Dwarves would be horrified to learn of the Dwemmer whenever such actually happens...they would be deeply offended by being called Mer for a while too i'm sure.

Sigmar's empire is well likely to face more strife than ever before mostly through the use of magic becoming significantly safer challenging a huge chunk of their beliefs but I never liked them anyway but the revelation of the oblivioon crisis and how much it is liable to remind them of Chaos Invasions I think will give them a huge imperative to not only come togethr. Eventually I think they and their remaining dwarf allies would try to push out and claim territory if not attacked. With the technological edge (rockets, and gunpowder they have and the knowledge of magical techniques not previously known or at least widely known on Tamriel .

Well not unless mass access to the Clockwork City and it's secrets ends up being possible far earlier in this timeline.

I expect a lot of blood to flow and territory to be lost initially either before others start learning these ways or counters to them or the plauges halt them. Who knows, maybe those all get blamed on the sload who will take the worst of these places memories of skaven and vampire attacks into one bloated package.

Another fun thing here given the era you are thinking about is that dragons get to come back early, with athel loren a considerably less threatening place by beastmen and not at all by orcs or chaos well I'm not 100 percent sure it's populations of forest dragons would stay there anymore but they as far descendants of the helpers of the old ones might be more pissed than anyone else at the idea of wyverns(liable to be what they think later) returning to try and enslave people once alduin eventually returns.

Hell this might just be the perfect cause of events to get athel Loren to finally begin expanding again, the wood elves might see the previous protections as less needed, especially if all their tree spirit frenemies have not come along on the trip to Nirn.

This is an interesting idea alright, sorry you had to listen to someone who thinks Cadia is part of WH Fantasy and that Ulthuan is part of Sigmar's empire first though.

EDIT: Why isn't Ulthuan next to the Summerset Isles anyway?

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

Griffins in TES sound like they have never been captivley breed in any numbers unlike pegasi though,heck sounds like they can't even be hatched conventionally....which may be why. That is why such is liable to become significant.

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Yay. Good point. From what I know, Griffins were used as mounts of elite organisation of knights that protected summerset from dangers.

I think the Dwarves would be horrified to learn of the Dwemmer whenever such actually happens...they would be deeply offended by being called Mer for a while too i'm sure.

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I disagree with this. I know from where you coming from, but Dwemer where a very varied civilization, that have multiple tribes. The Dwemer of Skyrim that did, all that horrific shit on Falmer, have very little do to with Dwemers of Morrowind or Hammerfeel.
Example:

Lore:Dwemer - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP)

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In 1E 420, the militaristic Rourken clan opposed the accord with the Chimer and chose self-exile.[17]​[18]​ Their chieftain is said to have thrown the Volendrung Hammer across Tamriel and led his clan to wherever the hammer fell, an image which has been depicted in a number of ruins in Hammerfell. The Rourken named the land "Volenfell," which later was somewhat mistranslated to "Hammerfell".[17]​

In the following decades, Clan Kragen decided to follow in Clan Rourken's footsteps and migrated west into Skyrim to establish new holdings of their own.[19]​ Arkngthamz became the first Dwemer city-state in Skyrim, and its reputation for flourishing despite constant attacks from the Nords encouraged other Dwemer clans to expand westward. A number of these clans soon formed a loose alliance of four city-states that was regarded as unassailable. Clan Kragen later established a sister-city, Arkngthamz-Phng, in the Dragon's Teeth Mountains, which replaced Arkngthamz as the clan's seat of power.[19]​ Numerous Dwemer holdings and city-states soon dotted Skyrim from the Velothi Mountains to Markarth in what is now The Reach.[3]​ The city-states burrowed deep underground, masking their true size, and several of them were linked by the gargantuan cavern known as Fal'Zhardum Din.[20]​ The Dwemer in Skyrim prospered for a time, but this prosperity proved to be short-lived. The city-states discovered deposits of Aetherium in their deepest delvings, and Arkngthamz led the research program to develop technology to harness Aetherium's power. The resulting Aetherium Forge produced Aetherium artifacts of such immense power that the Dwemer alliance immediately shattered, and the four city-states and their rivals went to war over control of the Forge. After decades of conflict, the Dwemer were weakened to such an extent that Nordic armies commanded by High King Gellir finally succeeded in conquering them in three short years; a century would pass before the Dwemer mustered the strength to reclaim their lost lands.[21]​

The Dwemer inexplicably disappeared during the Battle of Red Mountain, the biggest and final battle of the War of the First Council.[6]​ This purportedly came about due to the efforts of Lord Kagrenac, who was the Chief Tonal Architect of the Dwemer responsible for designing the great freeholds of their Second Empire.[25]​[nb 1]​ Kagrenac constructed Kagrenac's Tools to harness the powers of the Heart of Lorkhan, which the Dwemer had discovered beneath Red Mountain. When the Chimer found out, they considered this aim blasphemous and sought to stop it. Kagrenac's exact goal remains unclear, but it is believed he sought to heighten his race to Anumidium.[26]​ The disappearance of a whole race in an instant sparked many theories,[6]​ but is generally thought to have followed this attempt to use the tools on the Heart,[27]​[25]​ and simply coincided with the war.[14]​ It appears that the Dwemer were conflicted on their use of the Heart. Some opposed its use, warning that massive side effects were likely, while the majority of the Tonal Architects, including Kagrenac, and Bthuand Mzahnch (who wrote The Egg of Time which downplayed the risks of tampering with the Heart of Lorkhan) wished to proceed.[25]​

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But I agree, that dawrves would be insulted by being compared with elves. But that only by commoners. Scholars should know difference imeddiately.

Sigmar's empire is well likely to face more strife than ever before mostly through the use of magic becoming significantly safer challenging a huge chunk of their beliefs but I never liked them anyway but the revelation of the oblivioon crisis and how much it is liable to remind them of Chaos Invasions I think will give them a huge imperative to not only come togethr. Eventually I think they and their remaining dwarf allies would try to push out and claim territory if not attacked. With the technological edge (rockets, and gunpowder they have and the knowledge of magical techniques not previously known or at least widely known on Tamriel .

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I can see, Cult of Sigmar collectively shitting their pants, when they will see TES magic. And definitely I can see, Empire of sigmar dominating technologically Tamriel. I can also see Redguard being weirded out by amounts of gunpowder Empire and dwarfs have. Because gunpowder already exist in Nirn, but not on mass scale, and is mostly used by Redguards. Other faction have some alchemical substances that can cause explosion, but generally, there very little of it. But cannons are definitely used.

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Also, Oblivion crisis doesn't happen in this timeline. As I said:

It is the year 433 of the third era, when scarlet maws of oblivion should have unleash nine hell's upon Tamriel, but instead, through intervention of mysterious powers (read:ROB).

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Well not unless mass access to the Clockwork City and it's secrets ends up being possible far earlier in this timeline.

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I don't really understand what you mean. Clockwork city never was open on mass scale for people. The only instances that suggest such things, are from The elder scrolls legends, which, from what we know is only bunch of stories made up by Kelllen.

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Should Kellen be treated as an unreliable narrator from a lore perspective? Will we ever get to learn more about his character background? Including how he knows the stories he tells and the year that he is telling them. (FioFioFio, Legoless, and Phoenix Neko) 18 years of The Elder Scrolls has taught me that anyone can be considered an unreliable narrator from a lore perspective. Much like the world today, who you chose to believe and how that stands up to something else or someone else's version is sometimes up to you. As far as whether we will learn more, we will have to wait and see.​

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I expect a lot of blood to flow and territory to be lost initially either before others start learning these ways or counters to them or the plauges halt them. Who knows, maybe those all get blamed on the sload who will take the worst of these places memories of skaven and vampire attacks into one bloated package.

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Even without mass outbreaks, Sload will be easily hated by Bretonnia and Empire. They are civilization of sadistic necromancer slugs, after all.

Another fun thing here given the era you are thinking about is that dragons get to come back early, with athel loren a considerably less threatening place by beastmen and not at all by orcs or chaos well I'm not 100 percent sure it's populations of forest dragons would stay there anymore but they as far descendants of the helpers of the old ones might be more pissed than anyone else at the idea of wyverns(liable to be what they think later) returning to try and enslave people once alduin eventually returns.

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I don't think , forest dragons would start, spreading from Athel Loren. The climate of Nirn is generally, similar to that of post-old one Mallus. Is still to hot for they liking. Hmmm. Maybe Atmora would be cold enough for them?
Also, dragons from what I know, never were helpers of old ones. And even if, then as small groups. They were native creatures to WFB world. Living here way before, old ones arrived.

Hell this might just be the perfect cause of events to get athel Loren to finally begin expanding again, the wood elves might see the previous protections as less needed, especially if all their tree spirit frenemies have not come along on the trip to Nirn.

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Since we're already talking about elves... How do you think, Wood elves would react to Bosmer?

This is an interesting idea alright, sorry you had to listen to someone who thinks Cadia is part of WH Fantasy and that Ulthuan is part of Sigmar's empire first though.

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You really don't need to apologize. He actually mean Cadai-High elven gods, and just written Cadia, accidentally. No the less. I'm very thankful for your answers and points.

EDIT: Why isn't Ulthuan next to the Summerset Isles anyway?

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I already made thread in spacebattle, about Ulthuan being transported into The elder scrolls. So if you are interested, you can give your opinions about this topic in here
I can also crosspost said thread, here if you want. It will be after all a interesting topic still, and you could give your opinion to a larger group of people.

 

[16 characters]

I'll take your world on Legends being vastly unreliable since It is clear to me you are more versed in TES than I am, I mean i've spent most of my year reading warhammer stuff so anything from before on the other world is far less fresh to me and Legends being pretty new I am just being introduced too
Sorry must have simply forgotten reading that the oblivion crisis is averted...somehow ....for conveniance.

Yes these dragons were native before the old ones arrived but to quote Brinrairdih a very old dragon '' When the Old Ones first crafted their Gates from the substance of stars, I was there to assist their labour.''
Emphasis added, we know for sure some dragons at least allied themselves with the old ones, if I was to speculate on why I might point to the other big native sapients, the Dragon Ogres, for uh who,...they did not get along would be putting it mildly.
I imagine them spreading less because they like the climate and more out of feeling like they might be murdered less farther away from bretonnia (after the forset spirits protecting them are gone)who likes to put there head on walls practically whenever they get a chance as far as I can tell. Few of them are bonded with the elves personally.

Sorry i'll need to read up again on Bosmer for that one to be proccessed mentally, all I recall is that they love forests and hence are strict carnivores.

What I mean is that everyone in these new boarders barring Nechrachs and Strigoi are liable to be peeved with the Sload enough to get retalitory if they have an inkling of involvment on new coasts.
Yeah I think even some vampires could be annoyed, those who like maintaing populations to rule over especially.

Heck I'm probably shortchanging the Empire on Magic and technology here, has tamreil ever seen the power of the printing press to change a society, have they ever encountered landmines en mase even if simple ones?

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

I'll take your world on Legends being vastly unreliable since It is clear to me you are more versed in TES than I am, I mean i've spent most of my year reading warhammer stuff so anything from before on the other world is far less fresh to me and Legends being pretty new I am just being introduced too
Sorry must have simply forgotten reading that the oblivion crisis is averted...somehow ....for conveniance.

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ROB knows many powers. Powers that some call twisted...Powers of non-canon...
Also, thanks you for trusting in my lore abilities @16 characters.

Yes these dragons were native before the old ones arrived but to quote Brinrairdih a very old dragon '' When the Old Ones first crafted their Gates from the substance of stars, I was there to assist their labour.''
Emphasis added, we know for sure some dragons at least allied themselves with the old ones, if I was to speculate on why I might point to the other big native sapients, the Dragon Ogres, for uh who,...they did not get along would be putting it mildly.
I imagine them spreading less because they like the climate and more out of feeling like they might be murdered less farther away from bretonnia (after the forset spirits protecting them are gone)who likes to put there head on walls practically whenever they get a chance as far as I can tell. Few of them are bonded with the elves personally.

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Thanks for clarification. Yes, that makes sense now.

Sorry i'll need to read up again on Bosmer for that one to be proccessed mentally, all I recall is that they love forests and hence are strict carnivores.

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Basically. Here a bosmer article. The most interesting part I can think of about Bosmer is that:

According to their creation myth. Bosmer and Khajiit were primordial beast that, when world was created couldn't adjust themselves to it. And for this reason, they were everchanging and mindless. Then forest god Y'ffre and Daedric prince Azura, give them offer. If beast decide to write with them a pact and worhsip one of them, they will be given form and mind. Ancestors of khajiit choose Azura and Bosmer choose Y'ffre.
And so, from this day. Khajiit and Bosmer hate each other.
Khajiit were given many forms by Azura, while Bosmer have one form, but through special ritual, can return to form of primordial beast to defend themselves, but when they become a beast, they are forever lost.
According to one legend, all monsters of the world come from Bosmer, because of this.

Bosmer have many, different ways of interpreting Green pact, and because of this, some Bosmer don't harm only plants in Valenwood. While happily trading with other provinces for fruits, vegetables and wood.

Bosmer have variety of looks. Some of them, look like normal humanoids, while others have elements of animals like antlers or even feathers instead of hair.

What I mean is that everyone in these new boarders barring Nechrachs and Strigoi are liable to be peeved with the Sload enough to get retalitory if they have an inkling of involvment on new coasts.
Yeah I think even some vampires could be annoyed, those who like maintaing populations to rule over especially.

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Oh yay. I can see necromantic wars, between Sloads and bloodlines living in Bretonnia and Empire in secret.

Heck I'm probably shortchanging the Empire on Magic and technology here, has tamreil ever seen the power of the printing press to change a society, have they ever encountered landmines en mase even if simple ones?

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Actually, they have some form of printing press or counterpart. But similarly to gunpowder, it's apparently very rare and expensive (it's founded by goverment)

Oblivion:The Black Horse Courier - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP)

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The Black Horse Courier is Cyrodiil's only newspaper. Published by three Khajiit brothers (Hassiri, Ra'jiradh, and Urjabhi), the paper's headquarters is located in the Imperial City Market District. The newspaper is funded by the Elder Council; it is, therefore, available free of charge. In the streets of the Imperial City you will frequently encounter newspaper deliverers, especially in the morning. On the roads of Cyrodiil, you will encounter the paper's Couriers. Multiple editions of the newspaper are available, as detailed below.

The newspaper is available for free, but the Black Horse Courier headquarters in the Imperial City will only give you one copy of each edition. Some copies can be found lying around; however, most are owned by other characters and therefore taking them will count as theft. Couriers, however, can give you multiple copies of all editions if spoken to on their routes.

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The elder scrolls is anachronistic like this. So generally, the tech level of Tamriel is something between renaissance and medieval.
But yay. Empire definitely has edge over Nirn. And with Dawi (and their-Gyrocopters, steam trains and runes) they are miles ahead of Tamriel.

 

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I am afraid this sort of thing has been what i've been getting infor on for capabilities of both for comparisons. If you have a better source for whatTamrielic lands generally have as such would help my imagination immensly.
Also your image broke I am afraid.
Warhammer Fantasy Technology list for the Empire and Dwarfs (world building resource) r/teslore - Advanced technology in the Elder Scrolls

I think the Wood Elves of Laurelorn would genuinley be impresed by and love the Bosmer or most of them anyway. They'd be more than a little confused as to why clearing some trees for small fortress would be seen as horrendous though. The Wood Elves Of Athel LOREN on the other hand might get really pissy that these dudes treat amber wizardry and the Wild Hunt like really bad things and would probably be jelous that they never seemingly had to have a forrested civil war happen just to live in their woods, many would I imagine be liable to belive the worst lies about the Kahjit from them on the principle of having even worse relations with Beastfolk than western men did.

I'm guessing you didn't include the Chaos Dwarves and Ogre Kingdoms because you didn't want to see Tamriel getting curbstomped?

 

[Dlan the Wizard]

I am afraid this sort of thing has been what i've been getting infor on for capabilities of both for comparisons. If you have a better source for whatTamrielic lands generally have as such would help my imagination immensly.
Also your image broke I am afraid.
Warhammer Fantasy Technology list for the Empire and Dwarfs (world building resource) r/teslore - Advanced technology in the Elder Scrolls

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Yehh...Teslore subreddit is a horrible source of information. Basically, they use in-universe propaganda that talks bullshit, overanalyze said propaganda, and then talks about time-travelling gay cyborgs. Or use stories of a ex-author who promotes subjective canon and/or in-universe propaganda to talk about time-travelling gay cyborgs. Or generally they use both, because it gives them excuse to talk about time-travelling gay cyborgs.

Personally, I recommend you to rummage on already linked by me websites: UESP and TES wiki for informations you need. Not just on technology, but in general.

I think the Wood Elves of Laurelorn would genuinley be impresed by and love the Bosmer or most of them anyway. They'd be more than a little confused as to why clearing some trees for small fortress would be seen as horrendous though. The Wood Elves Of Athel LOREN on the other hand might get really pissy that these dudes treat amber wizardry and the Wild Hunt like really bad things and would probably be jelous that they never seemingly had to have a forrested civil war happen just to live in their woods, many would I imagine be liable to belive the worst lies about the Kahjit from them on the principle of having even worse relations with Beastfolk than western men did.

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Thanks for answer.

I'm guessing you didn't include the Chaos Dwarves and Ogre Kingdoms because you didn't want to see Tamriel getting curbstomped?

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Ok. I see we have some misunderstanding and the fault for it lies on my side or to be more precise the title I choose for this thread. Yes, the title is misguiding. We don't talk about races and nations from warhammer in general, being transported into the elder scrolls, but only Bretonnia and Empire of Sigmar (plus, border areas like Athel loren) being transported here. And therefore, everything that is within them.
Vampire bloodlines that try take control from the shadows, mutants, grail knights, dwarfs, halflings, mage collegues.

And of course with few changes like: Everything magical, now uses magicka instead of winds.

If i wanted thread about chaos dwarfs on Nirn. I would make it. I wouldn't have problems with it. I simple didn't make such thread, and that's it.

 

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I was not talking about the title being misleading so much as the rationale for who came in, I can grok why the empire and bretonnia would come in as interesting places to have an interchange in.

What I did not really grasp was stuff like greenskins not making the jump over and internally shrugged, assumed that was for balance sake and then perhaps went to far in thinking that was why the empire, bretonnia and in your other thread ulthuan made it in.

The fault was really on my end.

 

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I was not talking about the title being misleading so much as the rationale for who came in, I can grok why the empire and bretonnia would come in as interesting places to have an interchange in.

What I did not really grasp was stuff like greenskins not making the jump over and internally shrugged, assumed that was for balance sake and then perhaps went to far in thinking that was why the empire, bretonnia and in your other thread ulthuan made it in.

The fault was really on my end.

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Thanks for clarification. And really, no problem, nothing happened.

I simple don't like powerscaling and VS threads. I much prefer discussions about "How A would react to B?", and that's why I deleted greenskins, while keeping the Skaven or Undead like Vampires in the Empire and Bretonnia. I simple though, that would make for more interesting interactions.
Because while Skaven or WF Vampires aren't (To put it mildly) friendliest. They also don't need war to live and function like WF orcs and goblins, and beside, Warhammer humans and dwarfs not having to worry about them and instead interacting with human-like orcs who can co-exist would be a very interesting situation.