this: if we just think of WEBMAT as an extension of the waystone project, then it was doomed from the start.
Webmat needs to recruit for WEBMAT, not the Waystone project.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Webmat needs to recruit for WEBMAT, not the Waystone project.
Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
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Barak Varr is already past the Border Princes, actually, so it's even worse than that. I think a big ol' map of the Old World would be useful here:
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Even with regards to dwarven civilization (as another poster alluded to), while the World's Edge Mountains were the heart of dwarven civilization, the only dwarven Hold that lies past K8P is Karak Azul, in terms of Holds that are actually still occupied by dwarves as opposed to greenskins and/or Skaven. Everything else held by the dwarves is either far, far to the north or in a different mountain range entirely (or is Barak Varr).
NeonLights
Formerly Reliable_2IC
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Good point, the interests and competencies will could diverge wildly. Now I feel silly for bringing it up. That said, I'm crossing my fingers we'll get two birds with one stone.
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[X] Belegar, to discuss who will be Loremaster after you.
[X] Altdorf, to witness the octenniel duels for the position of Supreme Patriarch.
[X] Karak Vlag, to see if they've been talked out from behind their fortifications yet.
[X] Panoramia, to properly finishing catching up with her.
[X] Altdorf, to witness the octenniel duels for the position of Supreme Patriarch.
[X] Karak Vlag, to see if they've been talked out from behind their fortifications yet.
[X] Panoramia, to properly finishing catching up with her.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
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IIUC the idea being proposed isn't so much to use WEBMAT exclusively for Waystone research as it is to recruit people into WEBMAT "for" Waystones but then keep them on for other projects as well. Which does seem like a potentially valuable way to kickstart initial recruitment - have a nice shiny carrot to draw lots of attention & interest right out the gate, allowing us to establish enough of a base organization to be a more appealing prospect in general.
except that its a relatively secret project, so we cant just go 'waystones!, we got permission to poke waystones here!'
again, we should recruit for WEBMAT, not Waystones.
its just that when we do recruit for Waystones, they are going to be members of WEBMAT on paper.
So basically, Waystones is a department within WEBMAT, and it just so happens that all of the current staff are members of that one department, and that no other departments have been formalised yet, correct?
pretty much.
so we do actually need to fill out the other departments before that becomes obvious.
and we need to fill out other departments before the waystone project ends* or the whole thing will go under.
* ending in this case might just be getting far enough that the whole thing gets put into 'long haul' study for the stretch/unlikly goals like 'making new waystones'.
[X] The Karak Azul Architects, to get to know their ideas for the potential layouts of the Library in detail.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who will be Loremaster after you.
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[X] Middenland, to see how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who will be Loremaster after you.
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[X] Middenland, to see how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
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So- non waystone projects for WEBMAT:
- the dwarves and elves used to combine runework and magic to make wonders. What were they, how does it look like they worked, sand can we reproduce anything using wizards instead of elves?
- light of sigmar/burning shadows combo melted a vampire king. Can it be reproduced? Formalized?
- the dwarves have a speech-to-text rune. This might just be because khalazid is logical and semi magical, or not. Get some book priests and see if a device can be created, or a language modified enough to work with such a device.
- Celestial weather spells and jade growth spells as compliments over large areas.
- New black orcs from Brettonia? Get some samples and a damsal and try to reverse engineer what was done to them and by who. Also, weaknesses.
- Weapons to kill gods. The Horned Rat is the keystone that holds the skaven together and keeps them a threat. There was a time before it was a god. How can what it did be reversed or ended?
- Field trip to record the resurrection of the cults Kasmir is setting up, and their effects on the sacral-magical landscape?
- Wtf is with Bok?
- AV decomposition and potential recreation. The way tongs failed but AV holds together, along with qyesh, implies that the winds feel constricted by each other and struggle to escape as soon as there is an imbalance in the ratios between the levels of ALL of the other winds. Can this be explored further?
- the dwarves and elves used to combine runework and magic to make wonders. What were they, how does it look like they worked, sand can we reproduce anything using wizards instead of elves?
- light of sigmar/burning shadows combo melted a vampire king. Can it be reproduced? Formalized?
- the dwarves have a speech-to-text rune. This might just be because khalazid is logical and semi magical, or not. Get some book priests and see if a device can be created, or a language modified enough to work with such a device.
- Celestial weather spells and jade growth spells as compliments over large areas.
- New black orcs from Brettonia? Get some samples and a damsal and try to reverse engineer what was done to them and by who. Also, weaknesses.
- Weapons to kill gods. The Horned Rat is the keystone that holds the skaven together and keeps them a threat. There was a time before it was a god. How can what it did be reversed or ended?
- Field trip to record the resurrection of the cults Kasmir is setting up, and their effects on the sacral-magical landscape?
- Wtf is with Bok?
- AV decomposition and potential recreation. The way tongs failed but AV holds together, along with qyesh, implies that the winds feel constricted by each other and struggle to escape as soon as there is an imbalance in the ratios between the levels of ALL of the other winds. Can this be explored further?
We already did this with the Eye of Gazul, working poof of concept so that might be something to start with.
Probably best to try it with another sort of priest, but looks good.
Verenans would at least be interested.
Not really our wheelhouse, and probably hsa been tried before
Waagh and Peace makes a good start so why not
How about we start trying to make daemon--killing weapons before we try gods
The cultists in question would likely be upset
Belongs to Kragg. I do not think he would let us poke it unfortunetly
AV is raw warp stuff, to make more of it you would have to be making your own warp.
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Those aren't proscribed cults though, their worship is open and non-controversial. They might be wary of outsiders, but there shouldn't be any problems beyond the usual ones of dealing with a small insular community.
The other established cults do not like wizards poking their gods either. Ranald is weird in how permissive he is. We would have to build a relationship with the bog gods, not just show up to oogle them.
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- Utrecht
Not with windherder they didn't
We got a bonus from windherder when doing the Shrooms.
Ghyran had a Rain spell in 6th Edition (The Rain Lord). How does the Rain interact with the Clouds (Azyr)?
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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I'm interested in finding out which of our existing research projects are WEBMAT-compatible before inventing a bunch of new research projects to pursue and getting emotionally invested in them. Chickens, eggs, etc.
Don't forget investigating Ranald's coin. If I remember correctly, we can't use it to investigate Ranald himself, but divine magic and warp stuff is fair game.
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Yep. Investigating Ranald's Coin unlocked a new action in our AV tech tree for studying the interaction of AV and divine energy, and I really want to take it.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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[x] Altdorf, to witness the octenniel duels for the position of Supreme Patriarch.
[x] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[x] Eike, as she begins her tutelage at the Grey College.
[x] The Karak Azul Architects, to get to know their ideas for the potential layouts of the Library in detail.
[x] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[x] Eike, as she begins her tutelage at the Grey College.
[x] The Karak Azul Architects, to get to know their ideas for the potential layouts of the Library in detail.
I don't think showing others the divine artifact of a god of sneakiness is a good idea. Maybe if they're also Ranaldites, but I would prefer to keep it restricted to Mathilde alone, unless there's a really pressing reason to do otherwise.
AV-divine research that doesn't involve the coin directly is fine though.
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- South Africa
[X] Altdorf, to witness the octenniel duels for the position of Supreme Patriarch
[X] Karak Vlag, to see if they've been talked out from behind their fortifications yet.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who will be Loremaster after you
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[X] Karak Vlag, to see if they've been talked out from behind their fortifications yet.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who will be Loremaster after you
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
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- Denial
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- She/Her
Is there any reason we couldn't recruit a Ranaldite priest to WEB-MAT? We know he's more okay than most gods with his holy energy/artifacts being studied (as long as you aren't looking at him directly) so he also seems the most likely to have a priest out there willing to join a project studying those.
Not going to lie: a lot of this stuff seems overly ambitious. If killing the Horned Rat was that easy Nagash or a particularly cunning Grey Seer would have done it already.
What I'd really like to see from WEB MAT is enchanted spider silk sheets. Mathilde has been roughing it for years at this point.
One of the Hedgewise groups worship Ranald, and some of them are probably priests rather than mages, but at the same time the Ranald worshipping Hedgewise are the ones with beef with Ulric and Middenheim, so who knows if we can recruit them or not.