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If we cannot spend the gold to get books because there is a lack of will to do so, then it's just as impossible to get lots of books as if we had lack of gold. A library would mean we get books whatever amount of gold or will or whatever other resource else we lack.
The Library costs a resource far more valuable than the gold. If we choose not to spend gold, we should choose not to spend the far more valuable resource.

I mean, I generally lean more towards the Library than any other Boon ideas, it's just that this argument you're making does not make sense. I understand the point you are trying to make - I just also believe that it is wrong.
 
Not everything has to be a Chaos plot. People can be bastards entirely on their own. And yes, the dwarfs count as people.

Do bear in mind that they have this funny tendency of pretending that improper shit doesnt't happen and hasn't happened, and as long as it's not recorded or acknowledged, it does not exist. I expect they have a great many skeletons safely drowned in Lethe.
I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying it's a non negligible possibility. Personally I'd estimate the probability of a Chaos plot to be somewhere in the range of 10-15%, which is low but also 10-15% higher than the normal Dwarven baseline of 0%
 
... Gah. Frankly, the thing I want the most right now, is to heal -- or at least acknowledge and start to address -- the rift and spite and hard feelings between Belegar and Thorgrim.
Unfortunately, I don't see any way for that to happen: for Thorgrim to explain the Waystones and the Throne of Power, he would have to break with tradition going back to Thungni Himself. Until that happens, Belegar is always going to be under the impression that Thorgrim is enriching himself on the unknowing backs of K8P (at minimum) and (possibly) the entire Karaz Ankor.

And thievery? That's a Grudgin'.
Johann wants a word.
Johann's rebuttal involves swirlies.

This is complicated slightly due to flush toilets not being invented yet, but he's a clever guy. He'll figure something out.
Putting aside the appalling AP drain you're proposing, Mathilde is not particularly good at diplomacy, and is certainly not qualified to be training people for the Empire's diplomatic corps.
Can you imagine what a Diplomatic Corps trained by Mathilde would be like?

They aren't sent to avert war, they're sent to cause and then solve wars.
 
[X] Speak honestly of everything not explicitly secret, including rifts within the Karaz Ankor

[X] There's a festival to Grungni coming up, and Johann has taken to observing the Holy Days of the Ancestor-God. Join him in this.

[X] The Halflings are renowned chefs, and several restaurants have opened clustered around the base of Karag Nar. Share a meal with her.
 
Just woke up, so here's my update review thingy.
He looks up from the table overflowing with accounts and reports, and takes a moment to blink in shock before leaping up and hurrying forward to greet you, clasping your arm in his. "Utkazakali!" he roars in delight. "Grimnir smiles on this day. What brings you to these mountains?" He waves a hand dismissively at the courtier who brought you here, who hesitates a moment before scurrying off.
Seems Ulthar remembers us quite fondly. Might be due to being close in terms of duties, being a Ranger and Grey Wizard respectively? It's a shame we only just now got to his action, though thematic with the rest of the update in terms of his backstory.
She smiles with what seems like genuine fondness at the boy currently menacing at swordpoint the statue of Emperor Jürgen the Opulant. "It gives new meaning to 'long con', but it's not without its charms. Especially now that the northern troubles have faded to a dull roar. There's always something somewhere, but that just means there's something to keep the mind occupied." She scratches her chin thoughtfully, looking sideways at you. "Do you think you could take on Dragomas?"
I'm caught up with the thread (for now) so I'll go ahead and disagree with the common take that this is Heidi being the typical Ranaldite con we believe her to be.

Take these Word of Boneys for example:
On a side note, @BoneyM how does Heidi feel about us getting Mandred some harmlessly booby trapped toys to teach him caution? It'd be like teaching a kid to treat electric devices with respect using shoddily wired battery-operated toys. Way more relatable than the ramblings of priests.
She's against her child being tormented in general.
It is my strong belief that her calling her married life a con isn't Heidi the Ranaldite bragging about her happy housewife/Empress con, it's Heidi the happy housewife/Empress justifying her being such as a con. Basically, even if it was a con in the beginning, then she's kinda gone native thanks to her son. Her asking Mathilde if she could replace Dragomas isn't a con either (mostly). It's her worrying about her son and trying to find allies, and since Dragomas isn't having it why not put Mathilde on the job? Not only is she Heidi's friend and co-religionist, but also Mandred's godmother.

I don't know, maybe this is just me being optimistic about things, but that's my take

Politics vote seems fairly clear cut to me so not commenting on that.

[X] Speak honestly of everything not explicitly secret, including rifts within the Karaz Ankor

Let's trust in the Empire a little, shall we?
Johann:
[ ] You've got a puppy, he's got several. Easy. Spend time with him as your pup plays with his.
[ ] Though you both use your magic to cheat, you both have an interest in personal fitness. Work out with him.
[ ] There's a festival to Grungni coming up, and Johann has taken to observing the Holy Days of the Ancestor-God. Join him in this.
[ ] Other (write in)
Puppy time seems a good first date. Maybe later we can do workout (which is a bit personal) or the festival (which is even more so given it's Johann bringing us to worship with him).
[X] You've got a puppy, he's got several. Easy. Spend time with him as your pup plays with his.
Panoramia:
[ ] Though you rarely think of those days, you did grow up on a farm and know something of the soil. Spend time with her as she goes about her work.
[ ] The Halflings are renowned chefs, and several restaurants have opened clustered around the base of Karag Nar. Share a meal with her.
[ ] Panoramia currently calls a small cottage somewhere in the Eastern Valley home, help her expand it into a proper tower.
[ ] Other (write in)
I actually have a write-in for this, about going to the Halfling pie thing with Panoramia, but these current options are good too. I do hope we do all these at some point, since they all seem to flow into one another nicely. Meal time makes for a good first date, since it's a balance between both their interests, farm work for some backstory revelation and shaking up Panoramia's view of Mathilde, then some therapeutic tower building to literally build their relationship anew from the ground up.

[X] The Halflings are renowned chefs, and several restaurants have opened clustered around the base of Karag Nar. Share a meal with her.
 
All trees are enemies of the Dawi! The Order of the Stick historical factbook tells us so!
Maybe we can use our Boon to get the Dwarves to come help out with the Drakwald? I'm pretty sure the only way that's ever getting sorted out is by constantly refortifying it every few miles with actual walls, and to do it across a timespan of decades.

Unfortunately, I don't see any way for that to happen: for Thorgrim to explain the Waystones and the Throne of Power, he would have to break with tradition going back to Thungni Himself. Until that happens, Belegar is always going to be under the impression that Thorgrim is enriching himself on the unknowing backs of K8P (at minimum) and (possibly) the entire Karaz Ankor.

And thievery? That's a Grudgin'.
Honestly, the best outcome here is probably for Belegar to have a private conversation with Thorgrim, laying out what he knows and asking Thorgrim to explain the matter. Probably after the Okral have fixed up K8P's defences, to avoid jeopardising that aid, surly though it may be.
 
Eh, I guess a wink wink nudge nudge think could be different. Will depend on the man I guess.
That's not quite what I was getting at? It's like...

Right, it's like Elves. Everyone knows Elves, everyone knows they're right arrogant bastards, so when one of them says something like this to you -
But then Boris passes on the transcript of the lecture on greenskin magic, which some of our mages found intriguing because, of course, we're not capable of lowering ourselves enough to understand their magics. So we had a look into you,
yes, they're pretty clearly insulting you and your entire race, but, like, of course they are. That level of condescension is taken as a given for Elves, barely registers really, and there's certainly no point in calling them out on it. Really, what would the best case scenario for that be? For the elf to apologize to the human for being too arrogant?

Everybody involved knows that's not going to happen, so the entire insult portion of the interaction gets filed away into Just Elgi Things and everyone gets on with their lives. The humans involved aren't happy about it, but what's to be done?

That's the sort of thing I'm getting at. As a Grey Wizard Dawongr, he's going to know we're going to hold some stuff close to our chest, because of course we are. Magic Spy and tightly bound to the most oath-abiding race in the world? We'll almost certainly be keeping something back.

But is he going to call us on it? What would that get him? Evasiveness, half-truths, or an outright refusal, potentially relating to secrets that he for all he knows he doesn't have the clearance to know by order of the Emperor, and then if he presses us it's going to be a whole thing where he's developing an adversarial relationship with one of the most valuable diplomatic assets around. Nobody wins. And Otto's good at his job, so he knows that! It's not that we'll be walking away winking and nudging at each other, chuckling about the great dance the Colleges and Diplomats play - he's just going to know that there's probably something we're not telling him as part of our Just Mathilde Things, and then he's going to sigh, file that knowledge away, and move on with his life.
 
Maybe we can use our Boon to get the Dwarves to come help out with the Drakwald? I'm pretty sure the only way that's ever getting sorted out is by constantly refortifying it every few miles with actual walls, and to do it across a timespan of decades.
Possibly. I'm not sure Mathilde cares enough about the place for that though. And it would require a decades long war, which the Empire doesn't have the will to fight and the Dwarfs don't have the dwarfpower to.
 
Unfortunately, I don't see any way for that to happen: for Thorgrim to explain the Waystones and the Throne of Power, he would have to break with tradition going back to Thungni Himself. Until that happens, Belegar is always going to be under the impression that Thorgrim is enriching himself on the unknowing backs of K8P (at minimum) and (possibly) the entire Karaz Ankor.
Yeah, six thousand year traditions of secrecy don't get broken by traditionalist High Kings. Ever. We don't even know there is such a shattering secret about the Throne.
Only semi-realistic way out of the animosity I see is:
- (Hope that events) maneuver things such that Thorgrim must name Belegar his heir.
- Thorgrim can then (and only then) explain the Throne and Rune Network Power issue.
- Belegar thus understands more of Thorgrims prior-to-K8P, grudge-resolution-focused decisions, and the subsequent ones. His Realpolitik traits means he accepts this, and he forgives Thorgrim the bulk of the grudge. (The Okral paid for the 'didn't send help' part, so they can at least function amicably.)

The complicating factor is, again, we've got no reason to think Belagar named as Heir would help resolve the animosity. And it's none of our business anyway.
Johann's rebuttal involves swirlies.

This is complicated slightly due to flush toilets not being invented yet, but he's a clever guy. He'll figure something out.
He'll try. For a half-hour or so. Then he'll give up and let Mathilde come up with the good ideas.
(This is one reason I'm not enthused by Johann as a romantic match. Panoramia at least has a similar level of diligence and dedication to Mathilde.)
 
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Unfortunately, I don't see any way for that to happen: for Thorgrim to explain the Waystones and the Throne of Power, he would have to break with tradition going back to Thungni Himself. Until that happens, Belegar is always going to be under the impression that Thorgrim is enriching himself on the unknowing backs of K8P (at minimum) and (possibly) the entire Karaz Ankor.

And thievery? That's a Grudgin'.
Belegar could also come to think about the sheer age of the Throne of Power and who built it; namely, the Ancestor-Gods. And the fact that, for his suspicions of Thorgrim to be correct, it would mean that every other previous generation of High King had done the exact same! Which... is something that is a bit hard to imagine. I mean. All of the High Kings were thieving jerks? No, not possible.

No, this is Belegar jumping to the wrong conclusion, due to his thought-processes being colored by his dislike of Thorgrim.

The problem being of course is that Dwarfs are stubborn. So. That level of "I was wrong, and..." would be a PITA to have happen. And might not come about if it were just left up to Belegar alone. Though if Mathilde were to point it out and work on it, then maybe.
 
[X] Speak honestly of everything not explicitly secret, including rifts within the Karaz Ankor

[X] There's a festival to Grungni coming up, and Johann has taken to observing the Holy Days of the Ancestor-God. Join him in this.
 
I actually have a write-in for this, about going to the Halfling pie thing with Panoramia, but these current options are good too
I will note that Pie Week is in the eighth month/second half of the year (@BoneyM) :)
Celebrated between the 1st-8th days of Erntezeit, this Halfling celebration is rapidly becoming a secular holiday throughout the entire Empire, as everyone gets swept up in the idea of eating delicious pies.
A Pie is a meal, after all. And I'm sure there is such a celebration here, plus it'd be a fun callback to the Expedition?

Belegar could also come to think about the sheer age of the Throne of Power and who built it; namely, the Ancestor-Gods. And the fact that, for his suspicions of Thorgrim to be correct, it would mean that every other previous generation of High King had done the exact same! Which... is something that is a bit hard to imagine. I mean. All of the High Kings were thieving jerks? No, not possible.

No, this is Belegar jumping to the wrong conclusion, due to his thought-processes being colored by his dislike of Thorgrim.

The problem being of course is that Dwarfs are stubborn. So. That level of "I was wrong, and..." would be a PITA to have happen. And might not come about if it were just left up to Belegar alone. Though if Mathilde were to point it out and work on it, then maybe.
This seems like a genuinely good counterargument. Would the Ancestors have made such a dishonourable system?
 
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He'll try. For a half-hour or so. Then he'll give up and let Mathilde come up with the good ideas.
(This is one reason I'm not enthused by Johann as a romantic match. Panoramia at least has a similar level of diligence and dedication to Mathilde.)
You know, we give Johann a lot of shit, because 1) He was stuck on the ratgun for so long, 2) we practically wrote his last paper for him, and 3) he absolutely deserves it.

But when he sits down to write an academic paper, he often does pretty well.

Paper on Runecraft? Johann wanders off into the tunnels, but his notes score a 107.
Paper on Kragg's deployment of the Anvil? 71.
Paper on Waaagh energies? 72.
Johann dissecting the We? 76.

As a side note, Johann learning Windsight in one try after the eye debacle? 104.

Like, Pan's been doing fine, but Johann has crushed more Learning rolls than he's flubbed.
 
[X] Speak honestly of everything not explicitly secret, including rifts within the Karaz Ankor

[X] There's a festival to Grungni coming up, and Johann has taken to observing the Holy Days of the Ancestor-God. Join him in this.

[X] The Halflings are renowned chefs, and several restaurants have opened clustered around the base of Karag Nar. Share a meal with her.
 
@BoneyM, so Paranoth stood out to me, given that he hasn't been mentioned before. According to the wiki, he was a Jade wizard, so mostly I'm asking in regards to the list of current atriarchs of the colleges I made a while back.

So, is Paranoth the Jade Patriarch, Mira actually the Light Matriarch, and Alric not present, or is Paranoth "just" a Lord Magister, not the Patriarch?
Alric is the Light Patriarch, as far as I know. See here:
The Undumgi have tried to label it Karag Ulric, and though it might read as such in their patois, a Dwarven reader of the Klinkarhun runes they're using - ᛉ ᛞ ᚱ ᛉ ᛕ - would be more likely to pronounce it 'Alric'. You smile and pen a short note to your Magister Patriarch so he can let his Light College counterpart know of his inadvertent immortalization before moving on.
 
Interesting to compare this to what we know about the "canon" timeline, where we know that Thyrus Gormann of the Bright Order was a "long-standing" Supreme Patriarch before Balthasar Gelt of the Gold Order took over.
How someone without Pit of Shades or Purple Sun or a non-T or S based test save-or-die could take out a Celestial Dragon Wizard is kind of mindboggling. And Dragomas is probably up there with Melkoth in casting his specific variant fairly safely.
 
Yeah, he's got some smarts, but he's not... scholastic, he doesn't give the impression of being especially hardworking, he's not a... nerd.
As a side note, Johann learning Windsight in one try after the eye debacle? 104.
Yes, when he tries he can do well. But I also remember how dubious he was about trying, mainly because sounded like the weird boring not-punching parts of the Order of the PICK.
 
Yes, when he tries he can do well. But I also remember how dubious he was about trying, mainly because sounded like the weird boring not-punching parts of the Order of the PICK.
Speaking of preferring the practical, non-academic side of Wizarding, well, we certainly don't know anyone else who hated academic writing with a fiery passion until she literally built the Rune-perfected tower to relax in to remove the malus, do we?
 
Dandelions are Enemies of the Dawi
Imagine Mathilde's tedium, though.
"Yes, that dandelion is an enemy of the Dawi. So is that one. Again, that one, yes. Also that creeper vine. And that stinkweed over there. The entire patch." Sighs. "OK, yes, that stinkweed plant. And that one..."

Lumpin Bogtrotter stretched at the threshold of his home, taking a moment to apppreciate the first wisps of the sun peaking over the mountains of the Dwarfen Hold. His family back in Sauerapfel might think him mad for joining the expedition, but it had all been worth it for this. A patch of land of his very own; true, it wasn't near as fruitful as the loam of the Moot, but every year it improved. Why, he'd even been able to set aside a corner of his patch for a garden this year, to try and bring in a little bit of variety.

Just as he was about to round the corner and see to the chores when the sun seemed to jerk in place, casting all the valley in the deep shadow of...Nar, wasn't it? Before he could even process the change, utter blackness swallowed him, and for an instant that lasted far too long, Lumpin felt like an ant, held to the eye of a merciless god. Then, it passed, and slowly the world came back into focus, like nothing had happened.

Lumpin took several moments leaning against the doorpost, taking deep breaths and trying to make sense of things. That was...the wizard's tower, wasn't it? Weber, that's right. But- Oh, right, right. Someone at the tavern last night had said something or other about the wizard using her shadow to burn away the weeds, but Lumpin had just figured that either he or the old halfling he was talking to were too deep in their cups.

He gingerly crept around the cottage to the back field, and carefully inspected the lines of crops. And, sure as the Aver, he could see little spots of ash, or even the remains of little clumps of chokeweed, like little charcoal carvings. His mood was just starting to lighten as he was thinking of the decreased workload when a square of black over in the garden caught his eye.

"No," Lumpin said quietly, marching quickly over to his little patch. "No, no, no!" There, between his parsley and his strawberry bushes, was the charred remains of his dandelions. He had planted those just for Mags! She'd been so excited when he promised her fried dandelions this year!

As the rage took over his heart, he thrust his fists to the skies, crying in impotent fury. "WEEEBBBEEEERRR!!!"
 
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Speaking of preferring the practical, non-academic side of Wizarding, well, we certainly don't know anyone else who hated academic writing with a fiery passion until she literally built the Rune-perfected tower to relax in to remove the malus, do we?
Hating academic writing is not the same as being disinterested in pursuing the deeper mysteries of the universe beyond 'can I punch this productively'?
 
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