[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Plan recruit everyone!
[X] Keep it around in case you ever want to study non-Ulgu enchantments.
[X] Leave the EIC alone
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Plan recruit everyone!
[X] Keep it around in case you ever want to study non-Ulgu enchantments.
[X] Leave the EIC alone
Reliable he is not. He's a bit too fond of lying to be reliable, we will double check him no matter what.
Fair enough changing the mage plan.
[X] Avatar
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
[X] Avatar
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
- Location
- some computer lab
Maxamillion and Johann do not get along, I would rather avoid any potential problems that causes, 2 journeymanlings is optimal without collegiate, we need our writing slave, and I have no interest in ambers, therefore Max + PanPan is the only combination that I approve of.
- Location
- Brazil
He is reliable because he is a Magister, and trusted enough to be sent to investigate Skaventech, which explicitly runs off on warpsttone.
He is immensely less liable to do something stupid, is certainly highly skilled and knowledgable.
That he didn't want to handle the burdens of commanding journeymanlings worked out in our favor.
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DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
sorry, is this guy's name "Murder" thats badass
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
And his super-impressive stewardship is only two higher than ours (easily turned into only one higher via 1 action), but no, apparently our stewardship is shit and we are not qualified for the post.
I'm not as salty as I try to appear and I can live with the choice made but damn, do I want to grumble about questers having skewerd understanding of stat values.
They allegedly don't get along. And our only proof of this is that Max refused to teach Magister Johann a spell he almost certainly already knows. I'm pretty sure Max knows that Johann is a Magister; while I have know proof of this, it's suspicious enough that I wouldn't take their hostility to be a hard fact.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
Question is a book with a ton of information on Human Necromancy a good gift for a dwarf who presumably wants to destroy and unmake all undead. I mean they wouldn't be able to use it directly but could they develop a method to disrupt undead if they know the method humans used to make them?
[X] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar: Turns out Wolf is a late bloomer. Wolf will grow large enough to ride upon.
And you know what
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Oh, and a thought for college favour, getting some extra dispel scrolls... and give one to Journeyman Johann since he really does need it.
Question is a book with a ton of information on Human Necromancy a good gift for a dwarf who presumably wants to destroy and unmake all undead. I mean they wouldn't be able to use it directly but could they develop a method to disrupt undead if they know the method humans used to make them?
[X] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar: Turns out Wolf is a late bloomer. Wolf will grow large enough to ride upon.
And you know what
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
Oh, and a thought for college favour, getting some extra dispel scrolls... and give one to Journeyman Johann since he really does need it.
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Clanless ranger turned king-in-exile hammerer turned army commander (well, more or less).
Now, that's quite a journey. I fully expect his life story to be interesting.
He's also liable to disregard our orders, do his own thing and lie about it.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
Given we know one of them is a hidden Mageister it's entirely possible the dislike was part of the cover.
Ok, I have slept then spent… ye gods over four hours?! catching up with the thread.
Windsage and Avatar.
So if I understand thing correctly this gives us a plan of:
Step 1a) Hit up Ranald for divine power.
Step 1b) Read the un-damned book.
Step 2) Figure out how to wield ulgu as pliers to wield Ranald-power.
Step 3) ????
Step 4) Go beat up the head Wizard so we can be head Wizard.
Step 5) Figure out how people who aren't Mathilde can use our quasi-divine casting.
Step 6) Profit
Would that be right?
Regarding who to recruit:
I don't want Johann, no matter how 'useful' he might be, because we have been ordered to give him a message from the Grey College. I intend this message to take the form of polity but firmly packaging him up on a gyrocopter heading north to 'take his exams'. If Magister Johann wants to return to K8P and study the Skaven then he is entirely welcome. We will hppily recruit him when he gets back. (And if he could bring a Bright journeyman down with him that would be grand.*)
I don't want to keep the Ambers because… it isn't what is best for them.
I want K8P to be a place where Journeymen come in and about-to-be magisters come out. Max and Pan intend to stick around. We have the means to help them, financially, academically, developmentally, reputationally. While the ambers could benefit from staying they could also benefit from going back north with the knights. This should be a mutually beneficial cooperation, not a case of 'I pay you, you benefit me' employment.
* I absolutely want to recruit up to 4 (6 if the trait somehow wins) Wizards at the first opportunity.
The Protector and or Night Prowler shall rise.
Windsage and Avatar.
So if I understand thing correctly this gives us a plan of:
Step 1a) Hit up Ranald for divine power.
Step 1b) Read the un-damned book.
Step 2) Figure out how to wield ulgu as pliers to wield Ranald-power.
Step 3) ????
Step 4) Go beat up the head Wizard so we can be head Wizard.
Step 5) Figure out how people who aren't Mathilde can use our quasi-divine casting.
Would that be right?
Regarding who to recruit:
I don't want Johann, no matter how 'useful' he might be, because we have been ordered to give him a message from the Grey College. I intend this message to take the form of polity but firmly packaging him up on a gyrocopter heading north to 'take his exams'. If Magister Johann wants to return to K8P and study the Skaven then he is entirely welcome. We will hppily recruit him when he gets back. (And if he could bring a Bright journeyman down with him that would be grand.*)
I don't want to keep the Ambers because… it isn't what is best for them.
I want K8P to be a place where Journeymen come in and about-to-be magisters come out. Max and Pan intend to stick around. We have the means to help them, financially, academically, developmentally, reputationally. While the ambers could benefit from staying they could also benefit from going back north with the knights. This should be a mutually beneficial cooperation, not a case of 'I pay you, you benefit me' employment.
* I absolutely want to recruit up to 4 (6 if the trait somehow wins) Wizards at the first opportunity.
No we should make a knighthood. A smokeknight-hood.
The Protector and or Night Prowler shall rise.
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
I'm rather confident in our ability to catch him if he tries that shit. In the same time, I doubt he will try once he understands that we are probably actively watching him.
- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Personally, I want the Collegiate trait because I want 6 mages working under us. Why settle for just 3 when we can have double that number at twice the price? Anyways, tactical voting time is go:
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
[X] Leave the EIC alone
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
I'm a big fan of the combination of Avatar and Windsage. These two together give us perhaps the best insight into all these weird esoteric things flying around the setting all the time. And, unfortunately, that means cutting my third place choice of Magical Duelist: Being even better at counterspelling is really good but both of these traits are so influential I have to vote for them.
[X] Plan Fields of Gold
[X] Leave the EIC alone
[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Donate it to whoever ends up leading the Undumgi.
I'm a big fan of the combination of Avatar and Windsage. These two together give us perhaps the best insight into all these weird esoteric things flying around the setting all the time. And, unfortunately, that means cutting my third place choice of Magical Duelist: Being even better at counterspelling is really good but both of these traits are so influential I have to vote for them.
No that is not right, trying to force sorcery though the colleges like that would not be well met. Keeping in mind that this is likely to be far in the future since actually developing sorcery will likely take a great deal of work, the first thing I would do if/when we manage it is to speak to a friendly magister like Mathilde's old master and gauge his mood on the matter. This needs politics and a careful hand not a bull in the china shop. We are Grey College not Bright.
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Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
Mathilde: smoke is ulgu. And there is no smoke without fire!No that is not right, trying to force sorcery though the colleges like that would not be well met. Keeping in mind that this is likely to be far in the future since actually developing sorcery will likely take a great deal of work, the first thing I would do if/when we manage it is to speak to a friendly magister like Mathilde's old master and gouge his mood on the matter. This needs politics and a careful hand not a pull in the china shop. We are Grey College not Bright.
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That sounds extremely impolite.
That sounds extremely impolite.
Eh... what's a bit of mind gouging between friends?
- Location
- some computer lab
we're pretty sure he did it to us once, aren't we?Eh... what's a bit of mind gouging between friends?
PsyFarrow
Verified Necrodancer
- Location
- Space
Once? Awfully trusting of you to think so.
- Location
- some computer lab
what can I say, as far as we know, he's never done wrong by us.
Guys, I just thought of a problem with the plan of leaving the paper writing to Max.
@BoneyM Do we still have to write a paper for Mathilde's Map? It hasn't been noted anywhere as graning favore etc. If so, is this something that we have to do ourselves rather than farming it out to a wizard of a different wind?
More seriously, I think there is significant benefit to having views from wizards of different winds on hand to provide insight into different phenomena.
I do worry that he'll clash significantly with Max (Johann's actions clearly irritated him), and this may reduce their effectiveness.
Plus he's a nosy, sneaky bugger and we have some things we don't want him getting a look at. Cough *Liber Mortis* Cough.
My final worry is that Johann is both a magister with seniority (and thus might get more credit on any papers we send back) and happy to play silly buggers. Which means we might need to keep more of an eye on him to make sure he is actually giving us everything he should be.
However you make a good point about his skillset, and the ability to get him under us is rare.
Since Panormia is currently around for a good while and so still recruitable later I'll tentively change my vote to Fields of Gold as long as we keep a wary eye Johann and are ready to kick him out in favour of Panormia if we need to.
We do need to dunk on him enough to keep Max in a mood to write our papers though.
@BoneyM Do we still have to write a paper for Mathilde's Map? It hasn't been noted anywhere as graning favore etc. If so, is this something that we have to do ourselves rather than farming it out to a wizard of a different wind?
I like Panormia better.
More seriously, I think there is significant benefit to having views from wizards of different winds on hand to provide insight into different phenomena.
I do worry that he'll clash significantly with Max (Johann's actions clearly irritated him), and this may reduce their effectiveness.
Plus he's a nosy, sneaky bugger and we have some things we don't want him getting a look at. Cough *Liber Mortis* Cough.
My final worry is that Johann is both a magister with seniority (and thus might get more credit on any papers we send back) and happy to play silly buggers. Which means we might need to keep more of an eye on him to make sure he is actually giving us everything he should be.
However you make a good point about his skillset, and the ability to get him under us is rare.
Since Panormia is currently around for a good while and so still recruitable later I'll tentively change my vote to Fields of Gold as long as we keep a wary eye Johann and are ready to kick him out in favour of Panormia if we need to.
We do need to dunk on him enough to keep Max in a mood to write our papers though.