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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Catching up so some late stuff:

BoneyM said:
Slightly more subtle. Potential wizards resonate with a specific wind, and the Grey College is full of Ulgu.
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Ah, so anyone with an affinity to Ulgu just feels more comfortable near it and so just gravitate slowly towards the place?

BoneyM said:
Acoustics. They're mainly visible and screaming when magic-rich storms are raging.
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That sounds really metal.
Simultaneously a warning that Daemons and Chaos Warriors are more supportable AND a giant bait ball for them.
Hmm...that sounds like a ritual springboarding off Substance of Shadow, except it replaced light with ambient magic...or maybe the towers are sort-of-daemon-like constructs which only keep existing while theres enough magic.

Kornet said:
Celestial college? Very yes.

Amber college, on the other hand?

And for the greys, while it is a way to advance, it is very much not the primary one.

The heroes remembered among the grey are not scholars and researchers, but investigators, deceivers and spies.

Academia is just a sideshow.
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Depends on how you buy into the advertising, I mean the Amber Order love the trappings of shamanism but they do still publish.

And keeping in mind spells and techniques are propagated via papers as well.

Sinsystems said:
Just a quick reminder, Arkhan's title of The Black was something he gained when he was still alive and it was due to him having such poor oral hygiene that his teeth were all pitch black.

It really is hilarious when badass titles are due to silly things like that.
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Ancient Egyptian lore here: Their nobility painted their teeth with an expensive and horrible tasting black resin which inhibited tooth decay.

Which is to say that Arkhan had far, far better oral hygiene than his peers if he was willing and able to spring for maintaining a coating ALL the time, where others would do it on a less rigid schedule to spare their tastebuds.

Briefvoice said:
So on another topic entirely, the halflings are attempting to set up a farming community in an active warzone, and that's crazy.

I mean, wow. We're really going to do this, aren't we? Six peaks of eight still filled with ravenous enemies, and the dwarves are just going to hold them off and attempt to build a multi-racial kingdom right next door. With people farming and mining and having non-combat occupations and having children. I mean, it's all pretty crazy isn't it? There's going to be all of these people one failed defensive line from having their entire lives destroyed, and it's probably going to be the work of King Belegar's entire life to change that.
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Thats sort of the basis of Thorgrim's being upset I think.

Chimeraguard said:
Found my old list of all the Clans of Karak Eight Peaks. Most of them are noted to have consolidated in Azul after the fall, but some (like the Norgrimlings) instead scattered across the Karaz Ankor.

Six Mining clans out of 15 (16 counting Clan Angrund.) Another dedicated to scouting out new places to mine, and depending on the job of a lode warden, another dedicated to guarding said mines.

Karak Eight Peaks loves its miners. IIRC, before its fall, it was renowned for having the richest and largest network of mines in the entire Karaz Ankor.
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It IS currently full of gribblies though.
I suspect with us not taking Steward Belegar would probably focus on importing the craft guilds if he wants a trade center.


DarkLight140 said:
As a general rule, it doesn't.


Magisters who marry typically do not marry nobles, because it's a massive social and political negative to use magic or taint one's heirs with a magical bloodline (see also: Roswita's reaction to being in the room with a wizard, the fact that most of the Empire's population will still burn magic-users rather than send them to the Colleges). Grey Magisters who marry typically conceal either the fact that they're married or the fact that they're a Grey Magister from everyone who isn't their spouse or another Grey. If we had accepted Anton's proposal Mathilde would quite likely have been the first Grey Magister to openly marry someone of his rank in the history of the Empire, and sorting out the social fallout from it would have been entirely our problem.

I was actually quite glad to see that "we shouldn't marry Anton because it would be a social suicide pact" didn't really get used as an argument against that vote in spite of how true it is. It felt very polite of the anti-Anton crowd.
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Important note: Anton had an aunt in the Jade Order. His bloodline is already 'tainted'

Thor's Twin said:
I mean, it is entirely in her authority to sell the rights to the taxes, and we have a pretty good idea of why. Stomping down on Sylvania is expensive, as is transitioning the army into using more guns. She believed that she needed immediate money more than steady sources of income.

I do believe that we should keep an eye on Stirland to make things don't get out of hand with the EIC, but currently Roswita is doing what she believes she needs to do in order to accomplish her goals. And questioning her methods, from a wizard no less, is likely to get Roswita defensive and not really help anything in the short or long term.
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Also Abelhelm proved sufficiently that as long as your war is successful you'd make quite a lot of profit off repossessed land and assets. He got the Hunter's Hills and that gold mine left for Roswita.

She's apparently been keeping the gold mine quiet, but if you look at the people flocking to the newly important city...she's definitely using it.

And now for the newer analysis...
 
I'm pretty well convinced.

[X] Plan Fields of Gold

[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Bureaucrat + Practical > Warrior of Paperwork : Scholarship is just a specific form of paperwork. You can live with it. Combines the two traits, +2 Learning, remove penalty to writing papers yourself.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.

Not really feeling Avatar personally and Duelist is closest to winning after it, so approval voting for that.
 
@BoneyM , are the subjects in our (potential) library broken down the same as the Grey College classes? That is, would 'Enemies of Man' + 'Wyrdstone Containment' be enough to get bonuses to pretty much anything we need to know about Orcs and Skaven?
 
BoneyM said:
Not when Mathilde's wearing her hat.
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ah yes, of course. can't forget the hat.
Witch Hunter Classic, AKA
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Hide the women! Hide the beer!​
The Hunter's great big thing is here!​
It's huge and fat and tall and round​
And bobs way up above the ground.​
It's big and brown and very long​
And gets in where it don't belong.​
And every wizard lives in fear​
he'll come and stick it in their ear!​
 
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Yeah, given the clarification, and keeping in mind there's a literal gold mine under Drakenhoff, two years of farming taxes to keep the momentum going in the evil smiting isn't a bad move.

The new income stream from the mine will soon come online.

Selling EIC shares wasn't very wise, but it might have been the one thing that allowed her to carry on, so who knows.
 
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To be honest, I think Roswita has overall been making the right decisions when it comes to Stewardship matters.

Her main goal is purging Sylvania, which people have criticised and seen as a result of her witch hunter mentality, but in truth that's really the best thing she could be doing. It's vital to remember that Sylvania is very shit, and regularly sends just awful shit Stirland's way. Right now, the dark powers of Sylvania are weak while Stirland is strong, without any crises or other major problems it has to deal with. Now is the very best time for Stirland to go in and clear out Sylvania as much as possible. It may not get another opportunity like this for centuries, if ever.

And what does this grand effort cost Stirland? Making the EIC stronger, the organisation controlled by proven patriots who've helped Stirland get to where it is now, and who are unlikely to abuse the power given to them. It's not risk-free, but leaving Sylvania to fester isn't exactly risk-free either.

Roswita has decided that a strong merchant concern isn't as bad as strong undead hordes, and that is honestly the right decision.
 
Guile said:
@BoneyM , are the subjects in our (potential) library broken down the same as the Grey College classes? That is, would 'Enemies of Man' + 'Wyrdstone Containment' be enough to get bonuses to pretty much anything we need to know about Orcs and Skaven?
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No, they're named by the ones doing the lecture instead of by an objective description of what they might teach you.
 
I want to expand near Karak Eight Peaks even if the stewardship vote for our position failed. That's a solid choice that I don't need to think about but the traits are far harder. There are so many good one's I Personally really want Avatar, Windsage, and Magical Duelist with Polytheist just barely taking forth place just above Warrior of paperwork but we only have two options and Collegiate seems all but required for our new job. If it's that essential someone else will vote for it. As for the torc, I'm a packrat and we chose the study position so we might as well keep it. The only wizard I care about keeping is Max but I don't want to let the other two away until we finish the spiders, skaven, and giving us an opening to meddle in farming and the economy.


[X] Take an active hand in the EIC
[X] Windreader > Windsage: Your magical senses see more than your normal ones. +2 Learning, even more able to see and understand emotion and magical effects in others.
[X] Magical Duellist: Anyone unwise enough to try to cast spells you don't want them to will quickly regret it. +2 Learning, +10 bonus to dispelling and inducing miscasts.
[X] Keep it around in case you ever want to study non-Ulgu enchantments.

[X] Plan Fields of gold
 
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@BoneyM [] Wolf Familiar > Winter Wolf Familiar: Turns out Wolf is a late bloomer. Wolf will grow large enough to ride upon.

- would this show-up again in the future or unique in this round of voting? Wolf might be fully grown next time we gain new traits
 
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[X] Plan Role Model for the Younglings
-[X] Recruit Esbern and Seija
-[X] Recruit Panoramia
-[X] Recruit Maximilian

[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Collegiate: They say managing Wizards is like herding cats. Herding cats isn't actually that difficult. Can manage three other wizards per action spent.
[X] Return it with your thanks to the Bright College. +2 College Favour.
 
BoneyM said:
It's now or never. He'll be near fully grown by the end of the first turn.
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Thanks! Is this the only time-sensitive traitsor are there others? Like will we get rusty using handguns if we focuses too much in research and lose marksman? Or do we have to figure out the other time-senstive traits as written in their texts?
 
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[X] Plan Ambers and a Gold
-[X] Recruit Esbern and Seija
-[X] Recruit Maximilian

[X] Take an active hand in the EIC

[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???

[X] Disdain for Sigmar > Polytheist: Your bitterness towards Sigmar has softened with time and distance. You're still not thrilled with him, but as long as his followers are coexisting with those of other Gods, you can deal with it. +1 Piety, removes anti-Sigmarite penalty except when dealing with Sigmarite supremacists and monotheists.
 
butchock said:
Thanks! Is this the only time-sensitive traits or are there others? Like will we get rusty using handguns since we're always and lose marksman? Or do we have to figure out the other time-senstive traits as written in their texts?
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Traits available depend on events that happened in the arc, and may or may not be available in the future. Wolf's one is the only one outright impossible in the future, but chances are at least some of the traits on this list won't be available in the future.
 
Yeah, look at all the stuff in the college guys. The more we can get/the more money we can save and not exorbitantly throw around and possibly raise eyebrows, the better. Thus, the college favors for the Torc.
 
[X] Plan close friends
-[x] Recruit Panoramia
-[x] Recruit Maximilian

[X] Avatar: You're growing worryingly familiar with being used as a conduit by deities. ???
[X] Assassin: Combat is easiest when the other person doesn't realize they're in it. +2 Intrigue, +40 bonus against unaware targets.
hers.

[X] Take an active hand in the EIC

[ ] Windreader > Windsage

I really want Windsage, however we're going to be spending the next arc as Court Wizard so by the end of it we are almost garuanteed to get it again.

This is not the case with Avatar, which is likely to be a one time opportunity and a mystery box.

Assassin is insanely powerful by the way. Even a conservative reading means we are at least at a +40 when sneaking up on someone, shanking them and then not being noticed by the dude we plan to shank next.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Yeah, look at all the stuff in the college guys. The more we can get/the more money we can save and not exorbitantly throw around and possibly raise eyebrows, the better. Thus, the college favors for the Torc.
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or, we buff the undumgi and thereby buff the eastern flank of 8 peaks, and make things safer for the whole karak
 
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