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Guys no one is going to take a perpetual apprentice seriously, the elves consider LMs to be as apprentices. As far as they are concerned a perpetual apprentice is basically a failure even at that, they are a person who dedicated life and soul to the ability to do party tricks.
 
On the spot, because he's not called Paranoth the Stayer In One Place.
I read this as the Stayer in One Piece and had a brief scenario of Paranoth being a pirate. Funnily enough, this gave me a mental image of what I think what Paranoth would look like:
Give him a longer beard and he'd look perfect imo.
The compromise I've arrived at is that Ursun was worshipped fairly widely by the Ungols, Gospodars, and any other related peoples who encountered bears on a regular basis, but became particularly significant to the Ungols because He's the most prominent God they were allowed to 'keep' after the Gospodars took over and stamped out the worship of the Chaos Gods and the use of Wind magic. It's similar with Tor for the Roppsmenn and Dazh for the Gospodar - very old Gods that were once relatively minor, but rose to prominence after the Khan-Queen united all three peoples under the Widow and the other Gods were discarded.
I like it when you mention the compromises you come to. I don't think I've mentioned it, but I absolutely love the way you expanded and developed the Kurgan and the related tribes with Wind worship.
 
[X] Yes
[X] Magister Tochter Grunfeld
[X] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[X] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
[X] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
[X] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
 
Guys no one is going to take a perpetual apprentice seriously, the elves consider LMs to be as apprentices. As far as they are concerned a perpetual apprentice is basically a failure even at that, they are a person who dedicated life and soul to the ability to do party tricks.
I mean, by the same token they probably don't consider a perpetual to be much of a step down from any other rank.

Yes, it's obviously an untrained madlad who doesn't even remotely understand the ferocious power they try to control, but we've already established that he's a human wizard
 
Guys no one is going to take a perpetual apprentice seriously, the elves consider LMs to be as apprentices. As far as they are concerned a perpetual apprentice is basically a failure even at that, they are a person who dedicated life and soul to the ability to do party tricks.
Ehh, if we take the perpetual it's not for his amazing abilities but for his knowledge of the old ways. That's not a bad thing. Also elves will see all human magic User as inferior because their elves.
 
Guys no one is going to take a perpetual apprentice seriously, the elves consider LMs to be as apprentices. As far as they are concerned a perpetual apprentice is basically a failure even at that, they are a person who dedicated life and soul to the ability to do party tricks.
I encourage you to think of Culloch as "Historian Plus" rather than "Wizard Minus". Do the elves take historians seriously?
 
The problem is that if he can't cast the spells required, he is less useful.

We don't need magic power right now, we have magic power in spades; three lords magister, an Elven Grey Lord, WEB-MAT, and a Runelord. What we need is the knowledge the cult holds, and where to find that knowledge. He also doubles as helping to reinforce the bluff that we know what we are doing, because Imperial Waystone knowledge isn't good enough yet.

Don't dismiss him because he can't do magic or rituals—loremasters and scholars are just as important, and Perpetuals don't become highly respected in their order for no reason—he's earned his respect.

Hell, the Hochlander is a Perpetual, but you wouldn't call him useless because he can't cast all but the simplest spells. He's done a lot of good work for us.
 
[x] No
[x] Perpetual Apprentice Culloch
[x] The Gold College, to see what's become of their research into Skaven technology.
[x] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
[x] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[x] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.

Edit: Changed votes because I believe bringing something new to the table is probably better than rehashing stuff.
 
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I mean, by the same token they probably don't consider a perpetual to be much of a step down from any other rank.

Yes, it's obviously an untrained madlad who doesn't even remotely understand the ferocious power they try to control, but we've already established that he's a human wizard

Yes, but they still mutilate their souls in the service of... basically nothing as the elves messure magical skill

I encourage you to think of Culloch as "Historian Plus" rather than "Wizard Minus". Do the elves take historians seriously?

Their own historians probably... the historians of mayflies probably less so especially when you take into account the whole 'failed at being chiselhands' thing
 
Guys no one is going to take a perpetual apprentice seriously, the elves consider LMs to be as apprentices. As far as they are concerned a perpetual apprentice is basically a failure even at that, they are a person who dedicated life and soul to the ability to do party tricks.

If he joins the Project, it would be for his abilities as a scholar, and the Elves would judge him as a scholar.
 
Laurelorn
[ ] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[ ] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
I kind of really want both of these. Though, what about Hatalath? Why is he not a "get to know" option?

Another interesting option might be seeing how Thorek manages mingling with Elves, though maybe it is still to early for that. Did he stay around at all or did he move back to more important stuff after the introductions and setting up shop?
[ ] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
That's an older one now but I still really want to see it happen sooner rather than later.
[ ] Panoramia, to talk about how well her project in the Eastern Valley seems to be going.
Despite, or maybe even because I am not planning to vote for this I kind of miss that their romantic relationship doesn't get much in the way of being interwoven into Mathilde's on screen life anymore. Because I at least am not willing to give up an SP every turn just to see their relationship evolve on a turn by turn basis. Ah well, we kind of knew that this would happen when we moved the story's main focus away from K8P, despite assurances that in character the time sharing and commuting to be with her is working just fine from their own perspective.
[ ] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
Oof. So much potential lost with not being able to show him divine AV.
Now we have to obliquely traipse around the issue as if we were some kind of Ulgu practicioner in the face of an entity of Hysh.
 
I kind of really want both of these. Though, what about Hatalath? Why is he not a "get to know" option?

Elrisse is Mathilde's peer. Hatalath very much isn't.

Another interesting option might be seeing how Thorek manages mingling with Elves, though maybe it is still to early for that. Did he stay around at all or did he move back to more important stuff after the introductions and setting up shop?

After he got the lay of the land and set up his quarters and workshop, he left. He'll be back when the Project begins.
 
Actually there is nothing saying he does not have arcane marks, a human can get those at any time and from any grade of spell, but as the GM said above he will not be judged for that.
In the tabletop RPG, one gets Arcane Marks as a possible side effect of Tzeentch's Curse, which happens when rolling doubles (triples, quadruples) on one's magic dice. A character with Magic 1 and only one die can't roll doubles.
You're technically correct that one can get Arcane Marks from any grade of spell, but one still has to be using multiple dice on Petty Magic (which is overkill) in order for that to happen.
 
[X] Julia, to see what she has gotten up to as Stirland's most experienced spy master.

[X] The Amber College, to check in on the salamanders.
[X] The Gold College, to see what's become of their research into Skaven technology.
[X] Follow up on your donation of the Skaven organ-vat, and see what has been made of it.
 
[X] Yes
[X] Magister Tochter Grunfeld

[X] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[X] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
[X] Middenland, to see how the Ulricans are going with their new Eonir coreligionists.
[X] Kasmir, to see how partnership with Sylvania's native faith has been going.
[X] The Amber College, to check in on the salamanders.
 
Gryphon's Wood?


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[X] Yes
[X] Magister Tochter Grunfeld
[X] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[X] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
[X] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
[X] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
 
[X] Yes
[X] Perpetual Apprentice Culloch
[X] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[X] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
[X] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
[X] Gretel, who's apparently getting involved in the Karaz Ankor's ambitions in the Border Princes.
[X] Panoramia, to talk about how well her project in the Eastern Valley seems to be going.
[X] Stirland, to see for yourself how the war against Sylvania is progressing.
[X] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
 
I'm surprised at- Well no, I guess I'm not rally surprised at all the "Yes" votes.

Still, it seems to me to be grasping at straws. Bringing in new information about the Waystones is good. Bringing in active misinformation, things that aren't true and facts that are incorrect, would be really bad! The myths and old rituals of the Jade Order are false, at least according to their patriarch.
We don't know that any of the information we're getting is correct. All of it is at best several millennia removed from its source. That'll be a problem for all of the information we'll get from human groups. It's true of the Jades, but it's true of the Lights too, and it'll be true of the Hedgewise if we do end up recruiting them.
That's less of a concern for the Elves and Dwarves since they either have very good records or people alive for 1000 years, but if we want some degree of human participation in the project then we need to contend with the fact that a good part of the information we'll get is flat out incorrect.
So we'll have to dig the truth out. I imagine it'll look a bit like comparative mythology, except rather than try to find what proto-indo-european gods could look like we'll have to figure out what informations are shared among all those groups and thus is most likely to be true.
But that does mean we'll need diverse sources here. Just the Lights won't do, but if we can cross-reference with the Jade, we can sort out the superstitions from the facts. The more traditions we can compare, the more accurate we'll be.
 
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In the tabletop RPG, one gets Arcane Marks as a possible side effect of Tzeentch's Curse, which happens when rolling doubles (triples, quadruples) on one's magic dice. A character with Magic 1 and only one die can't roll doubles.
You're technically correct that one can get Arcane Marks from any grade of spell, but one still has to be using multiple dice on Petty Magic (which is overkill) in order for that to happen.

Perpetuals are not locked to petty magic though, they stop at simple wind spells, either from lack of skills or lack of desire to go on.
 
[X] Yes
[X] Magister Cyrston von Danling
Recently promoted and far junior to the other candidates, but you already know you can work well with him. He is extremely perceptive to the rhythms of Ghyran's flow, and thus suited to the study of Waystones.
[X] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Proje
[X] Gretel, who's apparently getting involved in the Karaz Ankor's ambitions in the Border Princes.
[X] Stirland, to see for yourself how the war against Sylvania is progressing.
[X] Kasmir, to see how partnership with Sylvania's native faith has been going.
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
 
[X] Panoramia, to talk about how well her project in the Eastern Valley seems to be going.

[x] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
 
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