The problem is even if we could do it we would have to retrain Mathilde from scratch since she has to start on the divine end of things and I don't think that is worth it.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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The problem is even if we could do it we would have to retrain Mathilde from scratch since she has to start on the divine end of things and I don't think that is worth it.
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@BoneyM when does the vote close? I want to be here to see it happen.
Waking up dwarf gods might be a, say, 4 on that die, right?
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Many Tzeentchians start as trained mages and only then fall to any god late in their lifes though.
So it doesn't always have to be from the side.
Egrim van Horstman certainly didn't start from nothing again after his fall.
24 hours after the threadmark, so 15 hours from now.
That's Tzeentch, he cheats... a lot. I would not be surprised if he just downloaded the necessary understanding in those mages' heads
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[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies
I'm really not a fan of the idea of throwing this to a D6.
I'm really not a fan of the idea of throwing this to a D6.
Volans view was 'This could perhaps explain why the servants of Chaos are often so much stronger in their spellcraft and wield more powerful magics than we Magisters of the Empire. These Sorcerers can both manipulate the Winds of Magic as we Magisters do and also have an immense faith in, and a direct link to, their Daemonic Gods. Indeed, this could help explain the frightening power of those sorcerers who are dedicated to the Daemon God Tzeentch, for their God is the first and greatest God of the study of magic. In addition to their almost priestly powers of supplication, the Change Lord's Sorcerers also posses a divinely inspired knowledge of spellcraft that often far outstrips that of all other spellcasters.'
I'm still holding out hope that all six options will fall into the 'good, but not dramatic' category.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
Mathilde can't really do Ulgu and Ranald, but she does do Ulgu and Mathilde all the time. We're not just passing this off on Ranald, we're stealing it; everybody getting a cut is one of the few things his worshipers agree on.
And we surely won't explode. Hubris? What's that?
Mathilde can't really do Ulgu and Ranald, but she does do Ulgu and Mathilde all the time. We're not just passing this off on Ranald, we're stealing it; everybody getting a cut is one of the few things his worshipers agree on.
And we surely won't explode. Hubris? What's that?
DocMatoi
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I'm just doing it cuz we owe him a lot
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
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I'd argue that she very much does Ranald and Ulgu. The kind of relationship she has with her god seems appropriate for a very senior and favored priest, just of non-spellcasting variety. Which is okay, most priests are not spellcasting.
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[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
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You know, Ranald is the God of cons and cheating too. What if we pulled out a die, and rolled it to land on a 6 (with a nudge or two if need be?) Alternatively, do we have a weighted die?
I'm just saying, there are options.
I'm just saying, there are options.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I mean, Ranald's our hype man and peanut gallery, but we aren't beating ourselves into the shape of a living conduit for his power, which would cause our soul to explode. He tilts the scales, but all of the physical resources we use to get up to our shenanigans are actually ours.
I'm very fond of the interpretation that this is Mathilde expressing her relationship with her god as a sacramental performance of the thief and her fence. In his aspect of both the Night Prowler and the Deceiver Ranald is certainly a suitable co-conspirator in this endeavour of stealing the power of one god's prophet after taking on the intended role of a second god's chosen.
Well, it's usually a +20 bonus on a d100, and I'm not quite sure I'd have wanted to go from a result of 63 (Good) to 83 (Good and Particularly Dramatic).
Futile at this point but still.
[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
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That's what I am saying when I talk about "non-spellcasting". We are not a conduit for his power, but he does semi-regulary throw miracles to our side all on his own - which is more than many priests can say.
NeonLights
Formerly Reliable_2IC
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Invoke Ranald in his aspect of gambling and luck, for fortune favors the bold.
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of theft, for we have come to take what rightfully belongs to gods.
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of deception and irony, for we have laid priests low and have come to use their labors to empower ourselves and our patron.
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of protection, so we can get away with this theft and trickery.
Buckle down and may all your cards be aces!
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of theft, for we have come to take what rightfully belongs to gods.
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of deception and irony, for we have laid priests low and have come to use their labors to empower ourselves and our patron.
Invoke Ranald in his aspect of protection, so we can get away with this theft and trickery.
Buckle down and may all your cards be aces!
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Did you mean to quote me? I was talking about what we do now, not the previous roll.
On the other hand: @BoneyM , any chance Ranald's roughly +20% blessing will affect this die roll? You know, turning a 1 into a 2 out of pity, or a 6 into a 7.
Or hell, just ramp up the effects of a 1 and a 6 even further than they're already going to be? We probably die if we roll a 1, anyway.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Yes, but it's got nothing to do with Lores. We don't do the Lore of Ulgu and the Lore of Ranald, we do the Lore of Ulgu and the Lore of Mathilde (in so much as 'do Ulgu while being Mathilde' counts as a lore). If you just want to say that Ranald's got our back, of course he does, but he doesn't spot us any spell slots, which was what my post was about.
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[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
Also, while i only skimmed the discussion because there were too many pages by the time i woke up, and thus this might have been said already, i saw a number of people talking about how we haven't used Ranald's Blessing in the last X months so it should apply to the ranald choice, but if i remember what @BoneyM has said correctly,the blessing only works on longer timescales, not on shorter things like battles or this.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
Also, while i only skimmed the discussion because there were too many pages by the time i woke up, and thus this might have been said already, i saw a number of people talking about how we haven't used Ranald's Blessing in the last X months so it should apply to the ranald choice, but if i remember what @BoneyM has said correctly,the blessing only works on longer timescales, not on shorter things like battles or this.
I did, I was responding to your comment about Ranald's blessing more generally.
I'm wondering if this is more like the situation when we Master a spell, where a d6 is rolled to decide which bonus ability Mathilde gets, not to decide how good it is.