Just the normal entourage would be good, Freddy, Nat, and Urgdug, alongside some troops. Oskana can also be used

No need to go that detailed.

I would want to bring Magnus to the EM for exposure but it is ultimately confined to Freddy.
 
You know what we really need? Another dwarf hold clearing expedition. :V


edit: I forget was there ever a post explaining the stat ranges and how far we are from next stat ranking so to speak?
 
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Related to the Tsarina and us, and the Cult of Sigmar learned the last time they tried burning one of us.

Yeah no.
They already wave it off as blessings of the Widow. Just like we got blessings of Sigmar.

Having said that. We do have an empathy bond that we can take advantage of. Let's use that to our advantage.

We can read each others thoughts. And Elves and Dwarves already give us the okay.
They're going to risk too much of they do this.

Also we have a mercenary army. It doesn't really do anything but I thought I'd just mention it here.
 
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I am all for taking the Usual group that goes to Nuln for the Elector's meet. Frederick needs Brain Wounder since it's his item of Station that signifies that he is an Elector and thus allowed to be there.

I am also for taking the Tank with us. The second one would be going through tests during the meet and is probably already functionally done by the time time Frederick leaves for the Meet, but just needs testing to iron any problems out. Mind you we don't know when the attack is coming, And IC Frederick and co don't even know let alone suspect that any such attack is coming. So he has no reason to leave either behind.

And Torroar has already said that he doesn't want us having Frederick doing things that we know about Meta wise but he would not realistically know in character about. So again the regular group plus the Tank is going to have to be enough.

And the only thing that Frederick knows IC is that there have been extensive travel along the Beast Paths that he knows about and has to be wondering how much is happening along the paths that he doesn't know about. We don't know when the attack is going to happen, but are thinking that it might take place during the Elector's meet when all of the Elector's are at Nuln.

I forget the name but the True death dealing weapon is still sealed away in Ostermark and can be retrieved once the danger is realized. how I am not sure but I am pretty sure it can be retrieved quickly in case of emergency. So I am not worried about the Triad being short a super weapon like one of the Rune Fang's. True the thing isn't a Rune Fang but it is a True death inflicting weapon that one of the Heir's can use. So again i am not all that worried about that part.

Plus there is the Greatships that we have been putting out at a decent pace now. 6 or 7 sail the seas now, I forget when but I think someone posted something about the Greatships being comparable to the Canonical Imperial capital warships If not better. But don't quote me on that since I am pretty sure I am wrong about that last bit.
 
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I am all for taking the Usual group that goes to Nuln for the Elector's meet. Frederick needs Brain Wounder since it's his item of Station that signifies that he is an Elector and thus allowed to be there.

I am also for taking the Tank with us. The second one would be going through tests during the meet and is probably already functionally done by the time time Frederick leaves for the Meet, but just needs testing to iron any problems out. Mind you we don't know when the attack is coming, And IC Frederick and co don't even know let alone suspect that any such attack is coming. So he has no reason to leave either behind.

And Torroar has already said that he doesn't want us having Frederick doing things that we know about Meta wise but he would not realistically know in character about. So again the regular group plus the Tank is going to have to be enough.

And the only thing that Frederick knows IC is that there have been extensive travel along the Beast Paths that he knows about and has to be wondering how much is happening along the paths that he doesn't know about. We don't know when the attack is going to happen, but are thinking that it might take place during the Elector's meet when all of the Elector's are at Nuln.

I forget the name but the True death dealing weapon is still sealed away in Ostland and can be retrieved once the danger is realized. how I am not sure but I am pretty sure it can be retrieved quickly in case of emergency. So I am not worried about the Triad being short a super weapon like one of the Rune Fang's. True the thing isn't a Rune Fang but it is a True death inflicting weapon that one of the Heir's can use. So again i am not all that worried about that part.

Plus there is the Greatships that we have been putting out at a decent pace now. 6 or 7 sail the seas now, I forget when but I think someone posted something about the Greatships being comparable to the Canonical Imperial capital warships If not better. But don't quote me on that since I am pretty sure I am wrong about that last bit.
You're being meta yourself.

In this block post, at no point do you name a reason to take a tank south. The reason Freddy should leave the tank in Ostland is to keep Ostland defended as the tank is constantly seeing combat. Which is always possible in Ostland, and will help protect Ostland not just from some theoretical massive beastman attack, but from regular beastmen attacks.

What is the usual group? Specify, please. Only Urgdug and Freddy? Are we only bringing those two people to Nuln? Is there a reason we cannot go to Nun with 1,000 troops? The beastmen are acting up is enough justification for the ever cautious Freddy to use "excessive" force to defend himself. I don't see 1000+ being excessive, because the road isn't safe and knowing the beastpaths can have 10,000 plus come out of nowhere makes an ambush on the road ideal for the enemies of the empire.
 
In this block post, at no point do you name a reason to take a tank south.
Good point, Sorry about that. The reason I want to take the tank to Nuln is to both Advertise it to the other Counts and let the Nuln Engineers look at it a bit, Not Study it but look at it. if they want to study it than we'll see.
What is the usual group? Specify, please.
I don't actually know what Frederick takes to Nuln each time he goes to a meet which is why Left it empty.
Is there a reason we cannot go to Nun with 1,000 troops? The beastmen are acting up is enough justification for the ever cautious Freddy to use "excessive" force to defend himself. I don't see 1000+ being excessive, because the road isn't safe and knowing the beastpaths can have 10,000 plus come out of nowhere makes an ambush on the road ideal for the enemies of the empire.
All good points but again I don't know what Frederick takes with him which is why I am leaving that part to the more knowledgeable folks to figure out. Mind you I am also of the opinion that we should take a thousand or more people with us and will probably vote for it when the time comes depending on what exactly is going to be sent along with Frederick.
 
I will point out, again, that Malevolentia is Ortrud's treasure, and thus Ostermark's. Not Ostland's. She is the one who won it free the vampire lord she slew, who wielded it in the march to Nordland, and let Frederick borrow it that one time.

It is hers. Been a while since it came up, though, so I get it. But still.
 
I will point out, again, that Malevolentia is Ortrud's treasure, and thus Ostermark's. Not Ostland's. She is the one who won it free the vampire lord she slew, who wielded it in the march to Nordland, and let Frederick borrow it that one time.

It is hers. Been a while since it came up, though, so I get it. But still.
um wow I completely didn't notice my mistake, thanks for pointing it out @torroar. Yes I meant Ostermark not Ostland. I must have written Ostland by mistake and not realized it until it was pointed out.
 
You're being meta yourself.

In this block post, at no point do you name a reason to take a tank south. The reason Freddy should leave the tank in Ostland is to keep Ostland defended as the tank is constantly seeing combat. Which is always possible in Ostland, and will help protect Ostland not just from some theoretical massive beastman attack, but from regular beastmen attacks.

What is the usual group? Specify, please. Only Urgdug and Freddy? Are we only bringing those two people to Nuln? Is there a reason we cannot go to Nun with 1,000 troops? The beastmen are acting up is enough justification for the ever cautious Freddy to use "excessive" force to defend himself. I don't see 1000+ being excessive, because the road isn't safe and knowing the beastpaths can have 10,000 plus come out of nowhere makes an ambush on the road ideal for the enemies of the empire.
My dude you are over complicating this just relax and trust in torr… we haven't needed to ever decide how many of this and that or to bring this and that or that and this in specific numbers just relax and trust that torr knows what he's doing by now.
 
Flights of Fanciful Death
Juking and bouncing, the cart rattled to a disturbing extent as its two very distressed horses pulled it along those rare routes where there were no jungle swarms seething about. Behind them were a number of ethereal screeching ghosts who flowed over and through most obstacles in their way. Twisted creatures bearing similarities to the fell wolves of the Old World loped about as well, snarling and howling as they chased after them. But there, too, were cold ones, their eyes hollowed out and filled back up with unholy light as slouching lizardmen corpses lolled back and forth upon their mounts. Once, they had surely served a living master, but they had died, and thus had fallen into the clutches of another.

Posted Dec 18, 2019.

The trait didn't fully develop for a while, though, as referenced in the trait itself.
 
My dude you are over complicating this just relax and trust in torr… we haven't needed to ever decide how many of this and that or to bring this and that or that and this in specific numbers just relax and trust that torr knows what he's doing by now.
We actually were told to do that for the Marienburg event. Lovely Laurelorn should count too.

Looking back, I do see during the EMs the specifics were not open to us, it was mostly in a broad sense, take or do not take these specific choices. Or the choice was skipped over entirely to reach Nuln and get to the EM stuff. I may be missing some context though, such as the gryphon egg given to the emperor.
 
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I would be fine with talking to Magnus about what we could do to resolve the tensions. I can understand our actions in Marienburg not solving the wider tension, but I see little reason why given our part we wouldn't have some ability to influence things.

And I will not be drawn into the old arguments, so please, don't try and bring them up.
 
I would be fine with talking to Magnus about what we could do to resolve the tensions. I can understand our actions in Marienburg not solving the wider tension, but I see little reason why given our part we wouldn't have some ability to influence things.

And I will not be drawn into the old arguments, so please, don't try and bring them up.
I think the issue isn't directly a result of what Freddy did as he sorted that one out at Marienburg , the issue of tension between the cults is the Sigmarite organization that is the witch hunters and the fact that they seem to have both the willingness and authority to take aggressive action against the other cults in the empire , on the other hand the witch hunters are a very old organization having its roots in the order of the silver hammer founded at Sigmar's behest it which case the order might have had established protocols and rules for when dealing with another recognized cult in the empire but were lost to due to degradation brought about by the three emperors era all the while still maintaining the authority to take action .

I think this incident gave Magnus the cassis belli he needs to reform the witch hunters along with the cults own policing systems(like the morratie vampire hunters) and formalize systems of duty and authority among the cults for dealing with similar future situations all while staying in the black in terms of political and prestige costs
 
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seriously though, do we have some info on what stat ranges mean like 1-10 is normal untrained humans, 11-20 is trained humans, 21-30 is legendary etc?
 
I would be fine with talking to Magnus about what we could do to resolve the tensions. I can understand our actions in Marienburg not solving the wider tension, but I see little reason why given our part we wouldn't have some ability to influence things.

And I will not be drawn into the old arguments, so please, don't try and bring them up.

I thought something similar, but torroar previously mentioned the issue with the Conclave is beyond things involving Frederick.

If Magnus thinks Frederick can help he'd probably request to talk to him.
 
seriously though, do we have some info on what stat ranges mean like 1-10 is normal untrained humans, 11-20 is trained humans, 21-30 is legendary etc?

Here:

In Warhammer CKII stuff, 10 is average, 20 is incredible, 30 is mythic, 40 is...something beyond mythic.

By average, I mean not good or bad, but just...regular.

Going below that is worse, like 5 is pretty bad.

But 0 means nothing at all, by which the void is also nothing.

Having 0 Piety means zero faith entirely.

Going into negatives is...well. It's just awful, really.
40 is basically impossible to achieve without straight up no longer being completely human.

Magnus for instance probably has some 40s.

30 is the realm of heroes who get tales told of them.

20 is the realm of an extremely talented, but basically normal person.

10 is about the average that a regular person can aspire to.

Hope this helps.
 
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