Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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As you command... So what do you all think the reaction was to this rumor mill in Sabine Quest? Kislev gets gold, Marenberg gets gold, the Dwarfs are spending gold, and the king of Britonnia is spending it. any ideas on what options this turn are going to look like from what we know now?
 
How bout we talk about how the beastmen are absolutely positively definitely soon gonna erupt into a empire-threatening war force and head straight for Ostland, but for some reason we keep pushing the prep for that eventuality lowest on the list of priorities? Reminds me of how again and again and again voters chose not to investigate Zacharias resulting in a near dynasty wipe when he finally came our way.
 
Anyone we can send to tournament? Urgdug is a knight, maybe he can compete!

I would love it if Urgdug won competition and prove to have most chivalry. :D
 
Knightperson said:
How bout we talk about how the beastmen are absolutely positively definitely soon gonna erupt into a empire-threatening war force and head straight for Ostland, but for some reason we keep pushing the prep for that eventuality lowest on the list of priorities? Reminds me of how again and again and again voters chose not to investigate Zacharias resulting in a near dynasty wipe when he finally came our way.
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Nah, not Ostland, Malagor is in Drachenfels prepping for an all out assault on Reikland and possibly Middenalnd. There is a reason the count there went paler than a ghost from seeing the fortune teller.

Ostland is likely going to be hit by the centigors, no question, but it's likely to be to try and tie us and the Trident up in the north as much as it is to hurt us and our family. That said yes prepping for beastman by path hunting is a must next turn.
 
Knightperson said:
How bout we talk about how the beastmen are absolutely positively definitely soon gonna erupt into a empire-threatening war force and head straight for Ostland, but for some reason we keep pushing the prep for that eventuality lowest on the list of priorities? Reminds me of how again and again and again voters chose not to investigate Zacharias resulting in a near dynasty wipe when he finally came our way.
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Barring really unusual circumstances, people are almost certainly going to pick locating beastpaths next turn. We haven't exactly been passive in regards to the beastmen either in the past few turns either, so the Zacharias comparison doesn't really work.

Ostland is not at all guaranteed to be the main target for Malagor's horde either. Given Malagor's obsession with tearing down the human gods, Middenheim or Talabheim are likelier targets, as Freddy himself has noted.
 
Massgamer said:
Anyone we can send to tournament? Urgdug is a knight, maybe he can compete!

I would love it if Urgdug won competition and prove to have most chivalry. :D
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Sadly I doubt they would allow him to compete. Magnus on the other hand would be a good contender, maybe even send Freddy the younger for a trial run. Freddy (the elder) might be able to compete, but I think Natasha may want u to stay home. We could also send the picks from our knightly orders.

Personally I'm hoping to send Magnus with young Fredrick as a squire, Sabine as a trade delegate, and Karola with some of the Shallyans and some financial relief. and of course a suitable guard.
 
NCRTrooper said:
Barring really unusual circumstances, people are almost certainly going to pick locating beastpaths next turn. We haven't exactly been passive in regards to the beastmen either in the past few turns either, so the Zacharias comparison doesn't really work.

Ostland is not at all guaranteed to be the main target for Malagor's horde either. Given Malagor's obsession with tearing down the human gods, Middenheim or Talabheim are likelier targets, as Freddy himself has noted.
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We haven't exactly been active on chasing down the beastmen opportunities in the last three turns. Is that not passive?
 
Marlin said:
We haven't exactly been active on chasing down the beastmen opportunities in the last three turns. Is that not passive?
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WE ignored Zachy boy at literally every turn (not that it would ahve helped given how abusrd he was and how unready we were)

We're destroyed one of if not THE major rally point in the Hohenzollern forest, we've found two beast paths, we've locked the Middle mountains down about as well as we can without the dwarves helping, which is not going to happen.


It's pretty clearly apples to oranges.
 
Marlin said:
We haven't exactly been active on chasing down the beastmen opportunities in the last three turns. Is that not passive?
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Turns 31, 32, 33, and 34 all involved actions against the Beastmen in the Hohenzollern Forest in some way, shape, or form. It's only really in the last two turns that we've been slacking a bit in that regard, which will surely not last past this turn.
 
NCRTrooper said:
Barring really unusual circumstances, people are almost certainly going to pick locating beastpaths next turn. We haven't exactly been passive in regards to the beastmen either in the past few turns either, so the Zacharias comparison doesn't really work.

Ostland is not at all guaranteed to be the main target for Malagor's horde either. Given Malagor's obsession with tearing down the human gods, Middenheim or Talabheim are likelier targets, as Freddy himself has noted.
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Ostland has been undergoing a religious awakening. Shallya, Esmerelda, Morr, have either been recently introduced to the public in a large way or are being worshipped for the first time. There is a vulnerable new temple of the iceborn flame being built deep in the woods. Freddy has been been physically remade by Sigmar, his wife has been blessed by the widow, and Freddy himself has the specific racial enmity of the centigors. I have less confidence than you that Ostland will not be a primary objective.

Whether it is or is not, however, Malagor's movement is the most egregious threat facing the empire and has been for the last few years. I think the Zacharias comparison is fine given the sparse actions taken so far.

It feels like not enough is being done to get around this wrecking ball before it hits.

Seperately, I wanna reread the post torroar wrote which actually featured the Dark Omen - but I can't recall where it was. Can someone point it out to me?
 
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Massgamer said:
Why not? Only rule for entre is being a knight most likely, never said knight had to be human.

I just want to rules lawyer situation for laughs and see the result. I give even odds of Urgdug at least giving a Grail Knight a challenge.
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It's more of a matter of Urgdug being in his armor and standing there as the takes a charge from a mounted knight, looks down at the shattered lance, laughs, "That tickles. Is it my turn now?", Swat. Rinse repeat. "Huh dis isn't even my heavy armor, my sugarplum hits harder than you." Britonnia swears vengeance for the insult of having better knights than them (ogre knights). Then Urgdug has to deal with idiots showing up at his door every morning to challenge him to a duel.

Do you really want to do that to him?
 
Knightperson said:
Ostland has been undergoing a religious awakening. Shallya, Esmerelda, Morr, have either been recently introduced to the public in a large way or are being worshipped for the first time. There is a vulnerable new temple of the iceborn flame being built deep in the woods. Freddy has been been physically remade by Sigmar, his wife has been blessed by the widow, and Freddy himself has the specific racial enmity of the centigors. I have less confidence than you that Ostland will not be a primary objective.

Whether it is or is not, however, Malagor's movement is the most egregious threat facing the empire and has been for the last few years. I think the Zacharias comparison is fine given the sparse actions taken so far.

Whether it is or is not, however, and whether Ostland will or will not be the primary target, it feels like not enough is being done to get around this wrecking ball before it hits.

Seperately, I wanna reread the post torroar wrote which actually featured the Dark Omen - but I can't recall where it was. Can someone point it out to me?
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You want Interlude, Foes near and far, for that. And while Ostland is undergoing a Religious awakening, Malagor is nowhere NEAR Ostland right now. He's amassing power and troops in Drachenfels. Which means he's likely got his eyes on sights of more importance than that, doubly so given that both Middenland's countess and Reikland's count were pissed and paler than a ghost respectively after they visited the diviners. Malagor is likely to try and shatter Reikland and then move onto Middenland to destroy the original Flame of Ulric. I have no doubt the centigors will be hitting Ostland given we murdered their daddy, but it's not going to be the hammer blow, it's going to be the distraction to keep our forces, and possibly those of the Trident, out of play so Malagor can make his move. Because Malagor is able to make something akin to sensible tactics, and knows if the Empire collapses on him as one he'll likely get stopped short.


What I foresee is the Centigors rampaging into and out of the forest, hitting ANYTHING they can that's soft, and moving away, trying to get us to expose ourselves or our children by overextending to chase them down, then smashing down on us with their full force. Their conscripts will probably be used to try and hem in the new fire site of Ulric's too as bait. Their entire objective though will be two fold, keeping us from leaving, and causing as much pain and horror to our people as they can.
 
I wonder how important those Lustrian idols the took are, I hope very, a Lizard excursion agaisnt Marienburg would be the perfect gift for my day.
 
Knightperson said:
Ostland has been undergoing a religious awakening. Shallya, Esmerelda, Morr, have either been recently introduced to the public in a large way or are being worshipped for the first time. There is a vulnerable new temple of the iceborn flame being built deep in the woods. Freddy has been been physically remade by Sigmar, his wife has been blessed by the widow, and Freddy himself has the specific racial enmity of the centigors. I have less confidence than you that Ostland will not be a primary objective.

Whether it is or is not, however, Malagor's movement is the most egregious threat facing the empire and has been for the last few years. I think the Zacharias comparison is fine given the sparse actions taken so far.

It feels like not enough is being done to get around this wrecking ball before it hits.

Seperately, I wanna reread the post torroar wrote which actually featured the Dark Omen - but I can't recall where it was. Can someone point it out to me?
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I think it was interlude near and far that your looking for.
 
CuriousRaptor said:
You want Interlude, Foes near and far, for that. And while Ostland is undergoing a Religious awakening, Malagor is nowhere NEAR Ostland right now. He's amassing power and troops in Drachenfels. Which means he's likely got his eyes on sights of more importance than that, doubly so given that both Middenland's countess and Reikland's count were pissed and paler than a ghost respectively after they visited the diviners. Malagor is likely to try and shatter Reikland and then move onto Middenland to destroy the original Flame of Ulric. I have no doubt the centigors will be hitting Ostland given we murdered their daddy, but it's not going to be the hammer blow, it's going to be the distraction to keep our forces, and possibly those of the Trident, out of play so Malagor can make his move. Because Malagor is able to make something akin to sensible tactics, and knows if the Empire collapses on him as one he'll likely get stopped short.


What I foresee is the Centigors rampaging into and out of the forest, hitting ANYTHING they can that's soft, and moving away, trying to get us to expose ourselves or our children by overextending to chase them down, then smashing down on us with their full force. Their conscripts will probably be used to try and hem in the new fire site of Ulric's too as bait. Their entire objective though will be two fold, keeping us from leaving, and causing as much pain and horror to our people as they can.
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The rumor mill describes Sieglinde as practically 'laughing mad' at whatever prediction she got. I think that means so happy and laughing so much she seemed almost insane.

So it could be good news for her...which could be bad news for us.
 
spudman said:
The rumor mill describes Sieglinde as practically 'laughing mad' at whatever prediction she got. I think that means so happy and laughing so much she seemed almost insane.

So it could be good news for her...which could be bad news for us.
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Umm no. Laughing mad means she is so extremely inordinately ANGRY that her puny human flesh brain cannot handle it and defaults to an emotional response at odds to what she is actually feeling. You know how people cry when they are SO happy? She was so angry she was laughing.
 
REAPER35 said:
It's more of a matter of Urgdug being in his armor and standing there as the takes a charge from a mounted knight, looks down at the shattered lance, laughs, "That tickles. Is it my turn now?", Swat. Rinse repeat. "Huh dis isn't even my heavy armor, my sugarplum hits harder than you." Britonnia swears vengeance for the insult of having better knights than them (ogre knights). Then Urgdug has to deal with idiots showing up at his door every morning to challenge him to a duel.

Do you really want to do that to him?
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Sounds like it would be fun for him. :p

Anyway, would love to send somebody to competition to see if we can't get something from it. Would suck if overall reward was taking over cursed Dukedom, that would so totally WHF.
 
CuriousRaptor said:
You want Interlude, Foes near and far, for that. And while Ostland is undergoing a Religious awakening, Malagor is nowhere NEAR Ostland right now. He's amassing power and troops in Drachenfels. Which means he's likely got his eyes on sights of more importance than that, doubly so given that both Middenland's countess and Reikland's count were pissed and paler than a ghost respectively after they visited the diviners. Malagor is likely to try and shatter Reikland and then move onto Middenland to destroy the original Flame of Ulric. I have no doubt the centigors will be hitting Ostland given we murdered their daddy, but it's not going to be the hammer blow, it's going to be the distraction to keep our forces, and possibly those of the Trident, out of play so Malagor can make his move. Because Malagor is able to make something akin to sensible tactics, and knows if the Empire collapses on him as one he'll likely get stopped short.


What I foresee is the Centigors rampaging into and out of the forest, hitting ANYTHING they can that's soft, and moving away, trying to get us to expose ourselves or our children by overextending to chase them down, then smashing down on us with their full force. Their conscripts will probably be used to try and hem in the new fire site of Ulric's too as bait. Their entire objective though will be two fold, keeping us from leaving, and causing as much pain and horror to our people as they can.
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This sounds likely, but as things are now I don't think we are on track to avoid the ransacking of Ostland, to quickly put down the centigors, or to reinforce wherever we need to in a timely fashion. Which isn't great, because we know and have known for a while this is coming. I wish I'd thought to suggest this be brought up at the most recent trident meeting.
 
torroar said:
Not-quite-exiled in the past for his actions pursuing vengeance against the enemies of the Karaz Ankor passing even beyond the pale that could be accepted by Clan Frostbeard! Poison, sure, traps and triggered avalanches, of course! Tricking trolls or ogres into killing goblins or skaven, clever and laudable by other rangers. But…the other things…no. We dare not even speak of them now. His dishonor would have had him declared a slayer, but one cannot be forced into such an act, and to hear Algrom Shadowbeard tell it, he felt and feels no shame for what he does in the name of vengeance.
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DocMatoi said:
He hired an elf assassin! oh, the shame!
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I figured it was teaming up with elves that was the unspeakable thing. But hiring them means not just working with them but giving them money... yeah, I can see that being even worse to other Dawi.

Doctor Elsewhere said:
Was it this warhammer quest or a different one where one of the Nehekharan Kings sailed north to reclaim his treasures, and the Lizardmen destroyed a settlement on the coast of Lustria after someone took golden plaques. Because if it's this one then he'd have no excuse not to know what would happen to him if he kept their stuff.
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There was a brief mention in Divided Loyalties of one foolish journeyman who came back from his travels with some mummy gold, prompting the college higher-ups to frantically sail to Norsca and chuck the stuff as far inland as they could before booking it back to the Empire, with later rumors of Something stalking whatever tribe picked the stuff up.

As for Lizardmen destroying a settlement... In the original Respect Your Elders quest (which took place in Mallus and died fairly early, unlike the new and still active v2 quest that warped the temple cities to a 40K planet), this one Tilean dude kept trying to build a fort in Lustria for raiding the temples and Mazdamundi kept getting woken up by skink priests wanting to know what to do, and after the third wake-up he just had his palanquin loaded up on a dinosaur and went to nuke the place himself and couldn't fall back asleep afterward, resulting in the quest starting. So after the voters got some scouting reports of who all was trespassing in the Lizardmen's domain, they decided to boot the Tileans out first. Cue a horrifying Tilean POV update where a morning in the main Tilean colony city starts off all happy and domestic before a horde of "lizard beast-men" march out of the jungle and just start killing everyone - men, women, kids, didn't matter - before ending with a few traumatized and grief-stricken civilians escaping on a ship back to the Old World.
 
Its pretty fishy the Arks ducked out RIGHT when Ulthuan's fleet was inbound.
Spies in their courts or just a lucky observer? Arks are mobile, but not anywhere as mobile as a fleet.
 
Daecl said:
If the Dark Eldar are gone and they might stay gone, that probably means that the Albion natives might have a better chance against the Fimir with our aid. Maybe we'll be lucky and the Fimir will have been completely relying on DE support in order to grow in power :V
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I doubt that would be the case, at most, the DE is probably having a mutual thing where they keep enslaving the Albion close to thr port and a place to land, the Fimir to keep catching those inlands and in turn, expand their holdings.

Even then, it is still an uphill battle for the Albion.
 
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