For the love of bugmans best, can we not give natasha another traumatic experience where freddy leaves her alone. I swear we never once have stood by her side, if there is any time to do it, it should be today.

I know it is just for the rest of the battle, but emotionally it is the same. She almost died for us! Can we just once stay with her instead of coming back afterwards, as she finishes sweeping up the broken pieces of her heart. Again.

One day this thread is going to go buy cigarettes and leave the poor woman forever. I honestly consider the largest flaw freddy has is that for all his talk of loving nat, he, without fail, puts everything else in the world before her.

Honestly the elves are big boys, they can go for the greater good on their own.

We should never have left her
 
the love of our life almost died and some no name minion had to be ordered to help her even after all the effort and sacrifice on our part to help them.
For fairness's sake - I think she had to be ordered to help her not because she thought Natasha was not worthy of her attention as a human or something, but because she feels almost like a literal Satan to them. Questioning "Do I really have to help this abomination?" is not entirely just Asrai haughtiness.
 
This is just the best quest. The sheer range of emotions I go through in one of these updates is insane.

As for who to help, I'd advocate Bloodglade on grounds of her looking mosts likely to die right now. Yes it's the biggest risk for us personally, but at this point Freddy's sight is blanketed in red and he's just going: "Right. I'm killing the birch. Straightest route there, do not pass start, do not collect 200$."
 
...Why the Hell do you want us to die?
And why do you think my opinion's got any bearing on it? We just had a whole conversation on Freddie being near the end of his mortal coil. Every option has the chance for Freddie to die. You think we're just going to quietly pass away in our bed at the age of a hundred and seventeen, Natasha held closely in our arms?

Never going to happen. We've been on the metaphorical path of the Slayer for some time. We're just choosing what state Freddie leaves things in. We're choosing how and when Freddie dies.
 
You know what, absolutely fuck these hippie elves!!!

We get called in for a bit of diplomacy so as to keep things calm and it has been one trainwreck after another. We have been ridiculed, dismissed, and given offense by these arrogant knife-ears, the love of our life almost died and some no name minion had to be ordered to help her even after all the effort and sacrifice on our part to help them.

We have these nature abominations passing judgement upon us when they are not worth the kindling to light a fire in a hurricane, a previously mad as squirrels Bitch-Queen Ariel that is still gonna be an insufferable holier-than-though to us mortals even after all we have done for her mark my words.

In essence fuck these arrogant treehuggers. After we finish chopping the treewhore in a thousand pieces I vote to never enter this damned wood again and DEMAND!!!! Some proper compensation from these assholes, I dont care if Ariel or Allariell delivers it but I want something CONCRETE for all that we did here just because I dont like their stupid attitude.

Fuck the Asrai.

EDIT: I am leaning towards Bloodgrail or whatever its stupid name is. Finish it fast and let us get outta here.

EDIT2: @torroar your writing is superb, you are a master storyteller. The fact I am so mad with the current situation is a testament to your skill as a writer. Great job.
Here's the obligatory "fuck the hippie elves and everything they stand for; let's just leave this place already!" angerpost that occurs every time we get a wood elf update. :V
 
EDIT: I am leaning towards Bloodgrail or whatever its stupid name is. Finish it fast and let us get outta here.

Well, seeing as I invented the character and named her, I don't think Bloodglade's name is stupid >.>

We should never have left her

Technically, this happened after you'd left and come back. You were there, in this case, without the leaving bit. It just happened to happen while Frederick was there. But Drycha can use Lore of Shadow spells.

For fairness's sake - I think she had to be ordered to help her not because she thought Natasha was not worthy of her attention as a human or something, but because she feels almost like a literal Satan to them. Questioning "Do I really have to help this abomination?" is not entirely just Asrai haughtiness.

This is correct. Highweaver Taira fears Natasha. There's a bloody frozen Elder Treeman over there, after all. Sort of like a doctor being told to help heal a monster what killed the other monster.
 
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Here's the obligatory "fuck the hippie elves and everything they stand for; let's just leave this place already!" angerpost that occurs every time we get a wood elf update. :V
Dont get me wrong I love the update and it has been an amazing ride. I have no issues on the writing of torroar, in fact I applaud it.

Its just that........well you see......how can I explain it.....

fuck the hippie elves and everything they stand for
 
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[] Bloodglade - Is losing, but fights on to try and defeat the one that invaded her forests directly. The immediate path, the most dangerous path.

Kill that wooden bitch.
 
Well that was a rollercoaster of emotions, from Durthu appearing to Natasha's near death. Now I get to go work with this amazing update fresh on my mind, I think going with Bloodglade would be the best. If we spend to much time going after Durthu or Ariel, Drycha could escape and kill Bloodglade.
 
Damn, are the WE faction a mess or what?

The Northern Trident better get a fortune from trade with Lauelorn and a shining anti-beastmen defensive alliance after this.
 
And why do you think my opinion's got any bearing on it? We just had a whole conversation on Freddie being near the end of his mortal coil. Every option has the chance for Freddie to die. You think we're just going to quietly pass away in our bed at the age of a hundred and seventeen, Natasha held closely in our arms?

Never going to happen. We've been on the metaphorical path of the Slayer for some time. We're just choosing what state Freddie leaves things in. We're choosing how and when Freddie dies.
You wrote 'I would like for us to die'. Again, why do you WANT Frederick to die and break his Promise to Natasha? I know that we CAN die at any Time and with every risk we take, but why do you explicitly WANT it to happen?
 
(Defensive Fighting: 48+19+20+Greatswords(5)=92/100)
(The Battle Elsewhere: 52+Durthu's Fury(25)=77/100)
(Anarchic Procession: 31/100)
Something I was wondering- so, the first is obviously us, and high numbers are good. The second is the battle around Durthu, so high numbers are good. Who's the third group, and were all the low rolls good or bad for us?
 
So, er, quick question. On the front page, this caught my eye.
Considering that it's not much to begin with, and they are the people who need it most, why isn't the Peasant Tax also at Very Low?

Because that's your cut of the peasant's taxes that goes to your coffers, with the rest going into the nobility in charge of their area. Burghers pay taxes from their businesses. The nobility pay taxes on their own independent income streams such as mines or whatever from their coffer. You could, I suppose, lower the amount of taxes you get from the peasantry, which would mean that more of their taxes go to the nobility instead, empowering the nobility and reducing central authority, if you desired.

Literally never been given the option to change it.

Ah, but it's coming up! When the Law Project completes, a choice of revision for tax law is included in it.


Something I was wondering- so, the first is obviously us, and high numbers are good. The second is the battle around Durthu, so high numbers are good. Who's the third group, and were all the low rolls good or bad for us?

Third was Drycha, utilizing the Lore of Shadows to infiltrate and yank the one she blames for being the most direct hand in getting Coeddil. Lower rolls was better for her. In the section where she smacked Durthu with Okkam's Mindrazor spell, that was a single alternate perspective roll so I didn't play it by the usual low/high rules I reserve for player perspective portions. In portions where it's definitively Frederick or Dynasty members as the 'main' pov, the rule of thumb is high = good, low = bad. Unless we're doing opposed rolls, but those are rare.
 
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On the one hand, we have to murder that bitch.

On the one hand, helping Durthu would probably imply removing the parasites clinging to him shadow of the colossus-style, which is about as epic as this shindig can go.
 
Third was Drycha, utilizing the Lore of Shadows to infiltrate and yank the one she blames for being the most direct hand in getting Coeddil.
Ah, gotcha. So the low rolls were Drycha doing better?


Sorry, it's just sometimes low rolls are good for us, because sometimes they're from the perspective of the other guys (like that roll to see if Bloodglade was dominated) and it gets a bit confusing a times.
 
[] Durthu - Impossibly ancient, unfathomably powerful. Has decided upon Drycha as a threat. If he were fully free to act, he would crush her easily. But first one would have to get to him, and then aid him.
Durthu is going to be fine. He's going to kill his opponents it's just a question of when. However going to him will take a bit longer and Bloodgade doesn't have that long.
[] Ariel - Wild, unrestrained, focused on killing the last ringleader of the Wildwood escapees. Bogged down by chaff, but powerful nonetheless. Her sheer mobility makes it difficult to aid her, but would prove valuable in chasing down your target.
Ariel is a force multiplier but she's been explicitly noted to be exhausted and is monofocused. So I'm leery of Frederick's ability to get her attention.
[] Bloodglade - The younger dryad is losing, but she fights on to try and defeat the one that invaded her forests. The immediate path, the most dangerous path. But, if Bloodglade falls, then Drycha escapes.
Bloodglade does not have this fight. She isn't Durthu and she doesn't have Ariel's bodyguards. She needs help ASAP. We don't even have to dominate during the fight but help Bloodglade stall Drycha long enough for Durthu to get free and then this wooden bitch is a goner. It's the riskiest option but Drycha needs to die here, and I'm not trusting Bloodglade's rolls. I don't trust our rolls either to be frank, but this seems like the best chance to stall Drycha or kill her dice willing.

God the diplomacy for the aftermath of this fight is going to be such a shitshow
 
Sorry, it's just sometimes low rolls are good for us, because sometimes they're from the perspective of the other guys (like that roll to see if Bloodglade was dominated) and it gets a bit confusing a times.

Ah, no, see, in the case of trying to dominate Bloodglade, it actually would have required Bloodglade to critically fail. So low was bad! But it needed to be much lower for her to actually be controlled. Remember, Bloodglade is the Branchwraith of Laurelorn, Firstborn of Laurelocraobh 'The Tree of Victory' which is itself a Child of the Oak of Ages. She was/is pissed beyond belief that they had come here and done this. They succeeded in dominating some of the weaker-willed wood spirits, but Bloodglade was not going down that easily. At the same time, it needed to be rolled, because if she did critically fail, it would radically change matters.
 
Damn, are the WE faction a mess or what?

The Northern Trident better get a fortune from trade with Lauelorn and a shining anti-beastmen defensive alliance after this.
The irony of this whole thing? In canon, the Laurelorn Elves are a fourth group called the Eoinir, basically unrelated to the elves of Athel Loren. Just to make the Wood Elf mess even more confusing.
 
I know that some People here are blaming the Wood Elves for everything, but honestly? No. They didn't want this to turn into such a Clusterfuck either. I don't like the Attitude of some of them, but the one I really blame for all of this is that Tree-Cunt Drycha. Nobody forced or persuaded her to be such a Bitch and attack us or Natasha. As @torroar pointed out, she is just willingly evil/delusional.

Now, if after our Victory the Aserai are still gonna act all snooty and superior or if they are being ungrateful then yes, screw them. But honestly, I doubt our dear QM will write them as such. After all, he's not GW.
We will walk away from this with something concrete if we succeed, I'm sure of it.
 
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