Oh that's what avalon meant.
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Shrug. I'm just trying to explain a reason.
All I know for sure is that the Mana Forges were draining too much mana from the Twisting Nether which would then cause Bad things to happen to Outland.
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Ok so we can't have the Blood Elves drain the local Arcane energy since it puts what's left of Draenor in danger.
What about the Furies creating their own form of magic fountain that uses both elemental energy and part of the stream of Arcane energy that flows into Draenor?
Maybe add a little Light to that fountain once the Naaru is rewaken?
What about the Furies creating their own form of magic fountain that uses both elemental energy and part of the stream of Arcane energy that flows into Draenor?
Maybe add a little Light to that fountain once the Naaru is rewaken?
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Actuall I think dark hit it.
Something about these statements contradicts its self. Also I'm pretty sure that part of that arcane energy is being converted into elemental energy for the furies.
Man the faster we get those naru's up the quicker we can talk to them about doing something to stablize our world and making it harder for demons to come here. Their tech should have a solution.
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Ok dumb idea. So we are back to asking the Naaru for help making a source of Light for the Blood Elves once they arrive.
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It is likely perfectly possible to draw magic directly from the Twisting Nether to serve our purposes. The trick is, apparently, making sure that you don't pull a Kael'thas and start draining from exactly the one and only confluence of magic that should never ever be fucked around with, ever, if you value living on a planet.
You mean the remements of a planet floating in the nether right?
They (Manaforges) were distabalizing Netherstorm because that was an area of loosely connected chunks of land held together by ambient magic and general twisty-ness post Apocalypse.
Mana tendrils and probably the faded shades of all the dead Furies kept it together and vaguely connected to Outland.
Out of all of what remains of Draenor, Netherstorm was largely outside of the, for lack of a better word, atmosphere. In Nagrand, Talador, etc, you can have winds and grass and blah. It is the most open to the Twisting Nether out of all of Draenor. It is where the Naaru ships docked at, because they came out of/through the Twisting Nether to the most Twisting Nether part of Draenor. So yeah, fucking with Mana/Raw Twisting Nether Stuff like the Manaforges were built to do would mess with the general area.
Also, having giant reactors that are refining the volatile energies that make up the dimension you are in and traveling through is destablizing just on the ground where they are. They are giant churning machines placed on top of crumbly rocks that are largely held together by what the giant machines are actually churning.
Giant churning machines make the ground rumbly crumbly normally on principle, regardless of what they are doing.
Mana tendrils and probably the faded shades of all the dead Furies kept it together and vaguely connected to Outland.
Out of all of what remains of Draenor, Netherstorm was largely outside of the, for lack of a better word, atmosphere. In Nagrand, Talador, etc, you can have winds and grass and blah. It is the most open to the Twisting Nether out of all of Draenor. It is where the Naaru ships docked at, because they came out of/through the Twisting Nether to the most Twisting Nether part of Draenor. So yeah, fucking with Mana/Raw Twisting Nether Stuff like the Manaforges were built to do would mess with the general area.
Also, having giant reactors that are refining the volatile energies that make up the dimension you are in and traveling through is destablizing just on the ground where they are. They are giant churning machines placed on top of crumbly rocks that are largely held together by what the giant machines are actually churning.
Giant churning machines make the ground rumbly crumbly normally on principle, regardless of what they are doing.
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It's hard to articulate "dying husk of a shard of a fragmented planet that got fucked for ripping this precise type of magic to shreds by arcane rifts of insanity and fuck you". Planet just takes less time to say.
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Well we could get the naaru to help us out and make something to safely draw energy. Maybe something that absorbs ambient energy that flows over it with out taking the stuff we need to stay intact. You know like how rain collectors collect rain during storms.
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Pretty sure that the Moonwells are fueled/powered/infused with the Light of Elune. Meaning that if a sufficient investiture of the non-theistic Light the Alliance use was bound and infused into a Starwell (gonna use that, since they aren't Moonwells and they'll be infinitely lesser to the Sunwell), it'd work.
I don't think Druidism and Shamanism are capable of being used in the same way. Which is fine, because they directly empower the peoples that venerate them anyways.
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That or make a Light Well that empowers people and has the added benenfit of hurting demons when they are near by.
We could always try to create something like rain collectors but for arcane energy.
The only method I know that can do that requires the death of a naaru.
Welll, not a Moonwell specifically. But the Elves should still be able to create the moonwell structure that can be filled with a power. Just need to tweak it to absorb a different energy type.
Which can then diffuse the power into it's surroundings passively like the Alliance moon/starwells did.
It won't have the pure power that the Sunwell did. But if you build enough, you should be able to make the addiction easier to bear.
Which can then diffuse the power into it's surroundings passively like the Alliance moon/starwells did.
It won't have the pure power that the Sunwell did. But if you build enough, you should be able to make the addiction easier to bear.
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Not gonna happen. The Light has to be actively channeled to hurt the forces of evil. Paladins don't hurt undead by being present, they hurt them by blasting them with the condensed purity of the Light.
I'm leery of making anything that draws on the natural energies like shamanism does. I can see that only weakening the furies and not being good for Draenor. Seriously we can just take a moonwell/starwell structure and make it function like a rain collector for arcane energy.
Or we could talk to the Naaru. They probably have a solution.
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Yes, I agreed with that sentiment.
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We'd have to refill these starwells periodically, since there's no Elune to recharge the wells or Vial of Eternity to make them into Infinite Magic water.
That's viable though, because if you can wield the light, you don't need a source to draw it from. It's only people who can't actively use the Light anymore *coughbloodelvescough* that have to rip it our of a source *coughnaarucough*
That's viable though, because if you can wield the light, you don't need a source to draw it from. It's only people who can't actively use the Light anymore *coughbloodelvescough* that have to rip it our of a source *coughnaarucough*
The thing about moonwells is that they seem to act like rain collectors. They're pretty nice and only seem to take the free floating energy that's willingly given. Especially considering the fact that you can't forcefully fill moonwells up, they gain mana automatically and stop absorbing energy when they're full. Which is the exact opposite of something like the Mana forges which act like Oil Drillers.
So I think Moonwells are actually the best compromise we can make for the elves. Since it doesn't force the Elves to take up a different religion, but also gives them energy while being pretty non harmful to the beings they absorb energy from.
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Such as, say, a well of energy that draw upon the power of the sun? A Sunwell of some sort?
But facetiousness aside, the Naaru or someone else deeply steeped in the light are likely capable of catalyzing another Sunwell into existence and even then they require an immense source of arcane power to act as the reactant. For the reignited Sunwell it took 1.) The corpse of a Naaru, 2.) The old power of the Sunwell in human form, and 3.) Prophet Velen performing the deed.
So we're probably still going to have to punch Illidan in the face or retake Karabor to get the power necessary to have the base components to begin creating a new power source for the Blood Elves.
And, to articulate what I had thought was going on with the Manaforges. I'd thought it similar to trying to get at that delicious delicious radiation in space but that pesky Ozone and atmosphere is in the way, so they punched through that protective bubble and made yet another oozing wound in Draenor.
Honestly let's wait to see if the blood elves show up and consult the naaru when we do. They have seen thousands of civilizations and have some pretty advanced tech.
Hm. I wonder if we can learn arcane stuff from the Draenrei.
Hm. I wonder if we can learn arcane stuff from the Draenrei.
Well that's the thing. I'm not thinking of making a new Sunwell to fix their race. But as a stopgap method since moonwells will probably only be enough to cover for a town or even just a town square. But even that is a better alternative than forceful mana draining at least until the Naaru get to restarting the sunwell.
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Moonwells would be useful, if they didn't require the influence of Elune to work properly. That moon goddess that the High Elves don't actually worship anymore. And that will be on a different world.
The only issue with Starwells fueled by the non-theistic Light is getting powerful enough benevolent Light wielders who'd be willing to charge them occasionally.
....Hmm, wonder if there are any of those around...
*eyes Velen and the entire race of Naaru*
The only issue with Starwells fueled by the non-theistic Light is getting powerful enough benevolent Light wielders who'd be willing to charge them occasionally.
....Hmm, wonder if there are any of those around...
*eyes Velen and the entire race of Naaru*