Massgamer
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Kill the almost witch doctors before the become them so that we retain magic superiority and it takes longer for new ones to show up.
Kill?
We should try to suborn them if at all possible.
Having the stronger voodoo(two Loa blessings, from the bigger ones too) should really be a mark in our favour here.
A big power spike in our favour could be at the end of turn 14 though, when we have helper golems, (hopefully) completed the first step to those ancestor guardians and (hopefully) reconnected with another Loa, like Hethiss.
Likewise, we should seek out any Bloodscalp that are weary of war, ones who are mistreated as the Dire Trolls were in Zul'Gurub's Bloodscalp encampment or those fed up with the current leadership in other ways(a siege would be good to breed this kind of discontent).
Traps+Poison is likely to please the spider. However:
Whittling the enemy down with traps is unlikely to please the Snake though. What with the death of a thousand cuts style of warfare being pretty much the opposite of the strong strike and the go-to style of warfare for when you're unable to dominate your foes with either overwhelming firepower or overwhelming numbers.
I think that's (one of)the difference(s) between Shadra and Hethiss, with one being the poison meant for combat(Hethiss) and the other for assassinations, sabotage and traps(Shadra). Kind of similar to the difference between the Panther and the Tiger. And the difference between Brutally Kunning vs Kunningly Brutal...
I suggest we start trying to get Hethiss on our side before the siege starts. If not, try to divide/isolate Bloodscalp encampments(traps if necessary) and attack said camps(once isolated) with as large a force as we can muster without compromising the defences(Strong strike, overwhelming numbers/firepower). Divide and conquer basically.
prince84
In central Dogma flirting with Lilith.
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- The Madness Place
Even if the Bloodscalp leader is not a Hakkar worshiper can we use the loa to spread the rumor among his people that he is. Is attack on us using his non combatants could be viewed as a major sacrifice to Hakkar. If it is hopefully it could start a rebellion among his troops.
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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Could also explain the reason why he wants the city so bad is because he wants to use Hakkars' temple to empower himself.
Chaosbrain
The End comes beyond Chaos...
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- Between East and West, North and South.
I THINK we are actually fine on that point, and don't need to worry about that. While their actions are the kind of thing he likes, they have not reconnected with the Loa yet.
It's like Khorne and Non-chaos space marines. While they fight like Khorne likes, they do not worship or do so in his name. Or maybe it's like Khorne and the Orks? The general idea is they do not directly have the Loas favour, so we can still get something done before they do.
Or maybe I am totally wrong, and we DO have something to fear. The Loa are like that...
Nah, someone in Zul'Gurub killed his sons dead; he's aware of that.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Also it might be hard to Voodoo the guy. Remember that his sons had those blood wards so he and his elite might be packing them as well.
Wards meaning no spirits and no magic.
Alchemy that lacks either in the finished product might still be viable though.
Also, if it's general distance based protection? Get Dad to fly over him with a rock/mug of contact poison/jug of acid. Let gravity do the rest...
...I wonder if we could make it rain acid.
Yeah, after you get Hethiss and Shadra and have sacrificed enough recently.
If this was an RTS, it would be a Faction Power that you can only use when you get enough Sacrificial Worth (from killing enemies, modes, etc) and researching it.
After all, a Far Seer power in Horde is literally Earthquake, so, you know.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Honestly while the Bloodscalp chieftain is a super badass, our main problem will be the sheer volume of bodies he's bringing with him. That's probably more targets than we have axes and spears to chuck at.
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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Do we get access to anything special by having the Panther and Tiger on our side?
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
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Must have sorry to bug you.
I wonder if the Empire had any siege weapons besides Golems we can make and mount on the walls before he Bloodscalps arrive.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
The question is do the Bloodscalps (past or present) have any experience building or using the things?
Because just knowledge of the basic method is a long way from having something capable of battering down the walls and gates of Zul'Gurub.
I wasn't really worried until right as I read this post... but we did start off groveling in some over glorified kennels before we took this city I don't think we're out just yet.
We have the best fortified position in the Vale and the most experienced Magic-Users, we have to use these advantages to the fullest.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Of course the Bloodscalps aren't expecting there is be a siege so any such weapons will have to be constructed when they arrive at the city. Remember as far as they know the city is still wide open like it has been for decades so they won't be expecting to have to break in.
The question then becomes if Zalzilla the Killa is patient enough to sit around while the boys make the catapults. Or if he'll say to hell with that and simply charge.
The question then becomes if Zalzilla the Killa is patient enough to sit around while the boys make the catapults. Or if he'll say to hell with that and simply charge.