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UNIVEEEEERSE!!! (-al Gundam idea and discussion thread)

tankdrop24 said:
When did I imply that?

I meant it more that Humanity doesn't really have the ability to project force beyond Jupiter due to the distances involved and lack of any pre-existing infrastructure like in the Jupiter Sphere make it next to impossible to establish a foot hold, meaning the aliens control the rest of the Solar System de facto.

The Aliens lack interest in the Inner System beyond pacifying Humanity (and maybe the Asteroid Belt), so have not really put as much effort into the Inner System compared to their efforts to secure Jupiter.
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Depending on how the orbits are, "what's beyond Jupiter" might literally be nothing and more nothing. Saturn might be on. The opposite end of the sun.

that's bad wording there.

You can say " humanity holds Jupiter for it's fuel resources, and can projet power through the in dr system, but the Asteriod belt is contested space, and the aliens maintain a solid grasp on Saturn, while actively interdicting the other outer planets. But a that space out there is a huge volume, no one really can patrol the whole outer system."
 
Nitramy said:
Gundam SEED crossover featuring a certain Harold "Coop" Cooplowski as the Strike's pilot.

What diverges:
  1. Kira becomes the mechanic's apprentice, and he, Murdock and Coop jury-rig a power extender for the Strike, allowing it to go Perfect Strike.
  2. George Allster doesn't die. In fact, Coop tearing up the battlefield allows the 8th Fleet to withdraw with minimum casualties. Which leads to...
  3. ...George Allster taking charge of the Actaeon Project. Seeing Coop using all three Striker Packs simultaneously prompts him to ask Coop to give him some of the performance data, specifications, and suggested improvements to the Strike, which he sends to Actaeon AND to Erica Simmons, leading to the Noir showing up after Jersey.
  4. ...Which also means that Sven and his buddies aren't the basket cases they are in Stargazer.
  5. Each time Coop battles the other Gundams, he takes off an arm or a leg. Except the Duel. He manages to disable the Duel in the battle above the atmosphere. It takes Athrun a near superhuman effort to save Yzak from reentry, but he succeeds.
  6. Kira drafts a design based on the Assault Shroud and sends it to Coop, who sends it to Actaeon - it's only until ORB that the Duel becomes operational, and Kira uses it until the end of the series. Oh, and it's the Blu Duel.
  7. Coop gets the Freedom in repayment for preventing Lacus Clyne from being a hostage. Oh, and when he sits in it, a random building in New Jersey blows up for no apparent reason.
  8. Also, when Coop gets the Meteor, a random city block in New Jersey explodes for no apparent reason, too.
  9. Coop's prowess in handling the Freedom pushes the battle lines far enough away from Orb that Shinn Asuka's family is untouched.
  10. Athrun sees joining the AA reluctantly after making the save with the Justice, but after seeing Kira's noob mistakes despite prodigious piloting, joins anyway to cover Kira's back, and because Coop never killed anyone. (As a matter of fact, Athrun's rage is stronger than in canon because Nicol just plain goes into shell shock after the close call. The Strike vs. Aegis battle is a lot more brutal as a result, with the Noir Striker barely being saved by a last-minute pack swap with Tolle.)
  11. Nicol doesn't die. He does, however, get cockpit phobia from his close shave vs. the Noir, and has to give up the Blitz or he gets turned to hamburger. This may or may not be a future plot point in Destiny.
  12. Oh, and Tolle lives.
  13. Final battle is mostly a reenactment of canon, except Rau doesn't kidnap anyone, and meets a pitiful end at the hands of Coop's "FIRE ALL THE LASERS" button.
  14. Patrick Zala meets the fate of the DMV building in that Megas XLR episode.
  15. Destiny starts in a very, very different way from canon.
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I'm hoping another change is either removing GENESIS and the other WMDs or otherwise neutralizing them before they can be used(freaking loathe the GENESIS beyond belief), since I feel despite them having been around and used since the franchise's beginning WMDs that aren't mounted on a Mobile Weapon of some sort go against the spirit of the franchise
 
I am still waiting/looking for a Marida fabric where she:

a) Deals with everyday normal problems
b) Gets cross-overed into another Gundam Universe because of reasons
 
NephyrisX said:
I am still waiting/looking for a Marida fabric where she:

a) Deals with everyday normal problems
b) Gets cross-overed into another Gundam Universe because of reasons
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> non-blood related oneesan to male protagonist
> it's GBF story
D-does that count?
 
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tankdrop24 said:
-A few years into the war, the main fighting is at Jupiter, with the occasional alien Raid into the Earth and Mars Spheres. The Asteroid Belt is notable as being particularly dangerous due to alien raiding. The Aliens control everything beyond Jupiter.

Any thoughts?
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The aliens win when everyone runs out of fuel because there is no more Helium for fusion?
 
tankdrop24 said:
That's why holding on to Jupiter is so important for the humans, if they lose it, they effectively lose the war.
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I could have sworn that it said that the aliens controlled everything outside of the asteroid belt.

Even worse is that those fuel freighters only never came under attack during all the wars because no one wanted to destroy all civilization. The aliens would have no compunction against destroying them.
 
Unless alien fleet has fractional C travel speed and/or ships numbered in the tens of thousand, there's no realistic way to arbitrary hold space region beyond planetary bounds.

Of course, then you hit that brick wall about HOW the insufficiently advanced aliens reached the solar system in the first place.
 
ZeroXSEED said:
Unless alien fleet has fractional C travel speed and/or ships numbered in the tens of thousand, there's no realistic way to arbitrary hold space region beyond planetary bounds.

Of course, then you hit that brick wall about HOW the insufficiently advanced aliens reached the solar system in the first place.
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The supply train of deutronium is fragile enough that just about anyone could break it. They just have to be relatively well armed by UC standards.

Seriously, I think it's the one treaty that I don't think anyone ever broke.
 
ZeroXSEED said:
Unless alien fleet has fractional C travel speed and/or ships numbered in the tens of thousand, there's no realistic way to arbitrary hold space region beyond planetary bounds.

Of course, then you hit that brick wall about HOW the insufficiently advanced aliens reached the solar system in the first place.
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Again, poor wording on my part.
Chloe Sullivan said:
Depending on how the orbits are, "what's beyond Jupiter" might literally be nothing and more nothing. Saturn might be on. The opposite end of the sun.

that's bad wording there.

You can say " humanity holds Jupiter for it's fuel resources, and can projet power through the in dr system, but the Asteriod belt is contested space, and the aliens maintain a solid grasp on Saturn, while actively interdicting the other outer planets. But a that space out there is a huge volume, no one really can patrol the whole outer system."
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Anyway, I was thinking perhaps the story proper would start out a parallel to the original Gundam anime, following Amuro when Side 7 comes under attack during the first alien raid into the Earth Sphere, and Amuro falls into the Cockpit of the a version of the Gundam developed by an Earth Federation Successor state. Once the raid is defeat, Amuro would join up with a fleet being sent to the Jupiter Front. Maybe a version of the Zudah could function as a Zeon Jupiter use Suit.
 
I was having a brain-bug for a moment due to my inability to sleep. Well some things I've watched SEED again and again and from the looks of it if the First Bloody Valentine ended within the first year things would have been far more peaceful due to certain individuals like George Allster being alive.

Now hear me out this is all what my sleep hating mind is thinking of right now.

Zala during the first year of the Bloody Valentine War has his emotional baggage due to the loss of his wife, but from my perspective he took Clyne's opposite because of people that are in Rau's camp (i.e. the CoordiNAZIS) are scaring both of them. He is essentially the Rasa Massoud Rachmadi in SEED, but in a sad take of it. Thanks to Rau's poisonous influence and the toll of keeping essentially the CoordiNAZIS/CoordiTEAPERs in line made him slowly join into his camp and turning into the monster we all know and 'love'.

Now about 9 months into the Bloody Valentine, a 'fourth' force shows up (and for the sake of argument ORB and other neutral countries are effectively a 'third' force) and decides to help end this conflict. The 'United Terran Federation' is quite willing to send it's best diplomats to a neutral location for a peace conference. While the first one that started shortly before the Bloody Valentine ended in a 'Muslim Uprising' killing many of the Coordinator and Eurasian Federation diplomats, this one is at ORB's orbital colony of Heliopolis. In response to this the G-Weapon project was moved off-colony before the diplomats arrived.

The date is January 25th, CE 0071 and the peace conference is just ending it's second week. The Earth Alliance delegation is led by George Allster, one of the few high-level officials not completely controlled one way or another by Blue COSMOS*. Pre-Nazification Zala leads the PLANTS delegation and most of them are part of the moderate or radical-moderate faction. The various neutral states are represented by a team of ORB and other neutral-nation aligned diplomats while the United Terran Federation had sent in their own team of diplomats led by Otto Neumann who is actually a renowned diplomat of the UTF.

Now The United Terran Federation just got out of the devastating 6th Unification War five decades ago (rebuilding various planets across a rough 2000 light-year sphere is hard work as it is) and is somewhat stretched in terms of stregnth and one of the big kickers is that the UTF has draconian anti-augmentation discrimination laws in place due to the horrific 'Genocide Wars'. When Zala read about those conflicts, let's just say he drank a few bottles of hard vodka within a night.

Anyway, Otto Neumann discovers from the three Terran Navy ships stationed as the protection detail that the Vesalius, Curry, and Gamow are coming towards the colony. Otto is worried, and properly so when Rau's personal ship is in a group. His ruthlessness and brutality is his calling card, and the Terran spooks state that he's trying to play everyone like a violin for some greater goal. What this goal is, not even the spooks know, but caution is the precaution of the day.

So begins the Terran's entry into the Bloody Valentine War... to save a peace that should be hammered down happen across the Earth Sphere even though it would end up being helped about by a literal bunch of civilians and officers from all sides, being hunted down like rats between Rau and Blue COSMOS who want to bring the war to it's inevitable conclusion.
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* From what I can tell, most of the organization is filled with blood thirty monsters (the usual for grunts), willing to sit back and throw nukes at the problem (many OMNI officers that are implied/identified as Blue COSMOS), or completely and utterly psychotic (Azrael being our picture perfect example). George Allster is none of these things and doesn't fit in the Blue COSMOS profile. So I am assuming that he isn't a Blue COSMOS member or associate.

However, I believe he sent Flay to Heliopolis to protect her from Blue COSMOS as we never hear about George's wife. I assume that George is being pressured to follow the Blue COSMOS script but his resistance got his wife killed. George sent Flay out to ORB's remote habitat so they couldn't get her... and due to it's remote location Blue COSMOS couldn't get a hit on her. With this he tries to keep Blue COSMOS from ruining everything.
 
Aaron Fox said:
I was having a brain-bug for a moment due to my inability to sleep. Well some things I've watched SEED again and again and from the looks of it if the First Bloody Valentine ended within the first year things would have been far more peaceful due to certain individuals like George Allster being alive.

Now hear me out this is all what my sleep hating mind is thinking of right now.

Zala during the first year of the Bloody Valentine War has his emotional baggage due to the loss of his wife, but from my perspective he took Clyne's opposite because of people that are in Rau's camp (i.e. the CoordiNAZIS) are scaring both of them. He is essentially the Rasa Massoud Rachmadi in SEED, but in a sad take of it. Thanks to Rau's poisonous influence and the toll of keeping essentially the CoordiNAZIS/CoordiTEAPERs in line made him slowly join into his camp and turning into the monster we all know and 'love'.

Now about 9 months into the Bloody Valentine, a 'fourth' force shows up (and for the sake of argument ORB and other neutral countries are effectively a 'third' force) and decides to help end this conflict. The 'United Terran Federation' is quite willing to send it's best diplomats to a neutral location for a peace conference. While the first one that started shortly before the Bloody Valentine ended in a 'Muslim Uprising' killing many of the Coordinator and Eurasian Federation diplomats, this one is at ORB's orbital colony of Heliopolis. In response to this the G-Weapon project was moved off-colony before the diplomats arrived.

The date is January 25th, CE 0071 and the peace conference is just ending it's second week. The Earth Alliance delegation is led by George Allster, one of the few high-level officials not completely controlled one way or another by Blue COSMOS*. Pre-Nazification Zala leads the PLANTS delegation and most of them are part of the moderate or radical-moderate faction. The various neutral states are represented by a team of ORB and other neutral-nation aligned diplomats while the United Terran Federation had sent in their own team of diplomats led by Otto Neumann who is actually a renowned diplomat of the UTF.

Now The United Terran Federation just got out of the devastating 6th Unification War five decades ago (rebuilding various planets across a rough 2000 light-year sphere is hard work as it is) and is somewhat stretched in terms of stregnth and one of the big kickers is that the UTF has draconian anti-augmentation discrimination laws in place due to the horrific 'Genocide Wars'. When Zala read about those conflicts, let's just say he drank a few bottles of hard vodka within a night.

Anyway, Otto Neumann discovers from the three Terran Navy ships stationed as the protection detail that the Vesalius, Curry, and Gamow are coming towards the colony. Otto is worried, and properly so when Rau's personal ship is in a group. His ruthlessness and brutality is his calling card, and the Terran spooks state that he's trying to play everyone like a violin for some greater goal. What this goal is, not even the spooks know, but caution is the precaution of the day.

So begins the Terran's entry into the Bloody Valentine War... to save a peace that should be hammered down happen across the Earth Sphere even though it would end up being helped about by a literal bunch of civilians and officers from all sides, being hunted down like rats between Rau and Blue COSMOS who want to bring the war to it's inevitable conclusion.
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* From what I can tell, most of the organization is filled with blood thirty monsters (the usual for grunts), willing to sit back and throw nukes at the problem (many OMNI officers that are implied/identified as Blue COSMOS), or completely and utterly psychotic (Azrael being our picture perfect example). George Allster is none of these things and doesn't fit in the Blue COSMOS profile. So I am assuming that he isn't a Blue COSMOS member or associate.

However, I believe he sent Flay to Heliopolis to protect her from Blue COSMOS as we never hear about George's wife. I assume that George is being pressured to follow the Blue COSMOS script but his resistance got his wife killed. George sent Flay out to ORB's remote habitat so they couldn't get her... and due to it's remote location Blue COSMOS couldn't get a hit on her. With this he tries to keep Blue COSMOS from ruining everything.
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Who are the terran federation again?
 
Here's a thought: how would you go about re-writing 0079 and Zeta to remove the parts that made the least amount of sense?
 
Valiran said:
Here's a thought: how would you go about re-writing 0079 and Zeta to remove the parts that made the least amount of sense?
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list the least sense parts

Though for the plot I'll make the one year war into a four year war because a one year war doesn't make much sense to me. Plus here is a basic plot to look at

• Season 1
o Gundam Rising
o To Jaburo
o Defense of Western Europe
o Dakar
o War in the pocket
o Defense of L4
• Season 2
o Operation Odessa
o Rest in Ireland
o Operation Yorktown (Battle of Jaburo)
o West Africa Offensive
o Kokekobe Spaceport
• Season 3
o Pre-Indian offensive
o Operation Downfall (Indian Offensive)
o Baikonur Spaceport
o Luna Campaign
o Return to Side 6
• Season 4
o Luna 2
o Solomon
o Side 1
o Granada
o A Baoa Qu
o Side 3

seasons are meant to be app. 1 year or less and help divide the plot into manageable parts

Edit: Oops I mixed up two battles
 
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How would something based upon the prelude of Nexus: The Jupiter Incident and the Jovian Chronicles work in a Gundam verse?


The Stiletto-class corvette from Nexus: the Jupiter Incident


A Kassaki Syndicate Longsword class ship


Kassaki Syndicate frigate


Gemini class fighter


Jovian Chronicles Alexander-class Destroyer

Just asking.
 
NephyrisX said:
I am still waiting/looking for a Marida fabric where she:

a) Deals with everyday normal problems
b) Gets cross-overed into another Gundam Universe because of reasons
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There's speculation (mostly by the readers lol) that Charlotte "Char" Ballard, the protagonist narrator of @Ford Prefect 's Gundam Build Fighters FF, is Marida, given her uncanny physical resemblance, which is lampshaded in-universe (Char wanted to be a gunpla builder, but got a job as a meido waitress because of her looks :p).

amitakartok said:
Anyone knows why Char didn't return to the AEUG at the end of Zeta?
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There's this manga or something I read somewhere that basically goes that at the end of Zeta, Char was tired of everything and wanted to try retirement, and believed that the future could be left to the next generation (Kamille). But then Kamille got his brain fried, and Char got resigned and depressed and went back to Neo Zeon because that was the only thing he could do. Plus not getting therapy for his issues.
 
Whiskey Golf said:
There's this manga or something I read somewhere that basically goes that at the end of Zeta, Char was tired of everything and wanted to try retirement, and believed that the future could be left to the next generation (Kamille). But then Kamille got his brain fried, and Char got resigned and depressed and went back to Neo Zeon because that was the only thing he could do. Plus not getting therapy for his issues.
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Char is a Japanese Sarariman who finally got to be CEO and take out his frustrations on everyone?
 
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