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Lumalumba said:
Here the English version.

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Yeah I already saw the blurry version before.

Someday I should make a compilation of all the vague stuff we know about the dismantlement. Like Nasu even said in the UBW Q&A 2 that once the Einzberns shut off the Great Grail also does, meaning that what Illya does in HF True doesn't even sound that special or unique anymore. It's basically something that happens in every route after the Fifth War.
 
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FSF vol.1 Afterword said:
Still, I trust that Nasu-san himself will write the "Dismantling War" that those rails — the proper future of the original Fate — lead to within the next few decades, so I'll keep flying and do my best to put on a spectacle in the skies!
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I also want to believe!
 
willnot said:
Yeah I already saw the blurry version before.

Someday I should make a compilation of all the vague stuff we know about the dismantlement. Like Nasu even said in the UBW Q&A 2 that once the Einzberns shut off the Great Grail also does, meaning that what Illya does in HF True doesn't even sound that special or unique anymore. It's basically something that happens in every route after the Fifth War.
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Yes, I was right about the drama CD! It's not about the dismantlement, it's about what Rin & Sakura talk about in HF True End in-between Illya closing the gate & Rider finding Shirou!

Also, no. The Einzbern shut down because Illya lost and/or died and they just give up.

The Greater Grail doesn't need the Einzbern around to keep functioning.

All the Einzbern literally do is provide Lesser Grails.
 
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I would like to say one thing.

CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES.

EDIT: I can't actually find any evidence that this is official?
 
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wellis said:
Also, no. The Einzbern shut down because Illya lost and/or died and they just give up. The Greater Grail doesn't need the Einzbern around to keep functioning.
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Hey blame Nasu, but that's what he implied in the UBW Q&A. So maybe it's a retcon for the dismantlement to make sense in UBW too, given that whole 大聖杯の復興 line in World Material. If the Clock Tower rebuilds the Great Grail, that means that the Great Grail was not working at that point one way or another.
 
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willnot said:
Hey blame Nasu, but that's what he implied in the UBW Q&A. So maybe it's a retcon for the dismantlement to make sense in UBW too, given that whole 大聖杯の復興 line in World Material. If the Clock Tower rebuilds the Great Grail, that means that the Great Grail was not working at that point one way or another.
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It would be nice to have more than speculation though.
 
I know that Fate Strange Fake isn't done yet, but a question rose up for me. When True Archer was blackened and made half an Avenger, did that weaken or strengthen his stats? And there's a comment on the wiki, notoriously unreliable I know, about how his Noble Phantasms would probably be God Hand, Nine Lives, and the "Bow of Hydra".

... What the hell is this "Bow of Hydra" supposed to be? A Bow that just automatically applies Hydra venom to everything it fires?
 
WildCardFool said:
I know that Fate Strange Fake isn't done yet, but a question rose up for me. When True Archer was blackened and made half an Avenger, did that weaken or strengthen his stats? And there's a comment on the wiki, notoriously unreliable I know, about how his Noble Phantasms would probably be God Hand, Nine Lives, and the "Bow of Hydra".

... What the hell is this "Bow of Hydra" supposed to be? A Bow that just automatically applies Hydra venom to everything it fires?
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When Godhand is revealed in Fate, Bow of Hydra was mentioned as something that Hercules should hypothetically have as a noble phantasm.
"…I see.
I should have thought of that as soon as I learned he was Hercules. Hercules should have the Bow of Hydra, but he only carried a rock.
…So his Noble Phantasm isn't something like that. The symbol of the hero Hercules is"

"Yes, his body itself is his Noble Phantasm.
You should know too about Hercules' twelve labors. The Greek hero Hercules overcame twelve tasks to atone for his sins and became 'immortal' as a reward.
You know what that means, right?"
"…A stock of lives… multiple layers of resurrection magic, huh?"
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As for Alcides, iirc his body did shrink after getting corrupted but his stats are still really high with nothing below a B so I don't think his stats got weakened.
 
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Asunder said:
When Godhand is revealed in Fate, Bow of Hydra was mentioned as something that Hercules should hypothetically have as a noble phantasm.


As for Alcides, iirc his body did shrink after getting corrupted but his stats are still really high with nothing below a B so I don't think his stats got weakened.
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I think Nasu said that Archer is Herc's best class because it suits the resourceful type of planning that allowed him to pass the 12 Labors. Considering that Alcides swaps out God Hand the the Bow of Hydra for Reincarnation Pandora and the King's Order, would that make him actually stronger?

Certainly the Bow of Hydra, assuming that it does have something along the lines of the Hydra Venom effect attached to it, would have a pretty strong attacking/debilitating ability even if just one shot connects. And God Hand with a smart Herc is kind of insane.

But Reincarnation Pandora allows for the outright theft of Noble Phantasms, and the King's Order is a much expanded tool kit which I think would greatly help the resourceful Alcides.
 
WildCardFool said:
But Reincarnation Pandora allows for the outright theft of Noble Phantasms, and the King's Order is a much expanded tool kit which I think would greatly help the resourceful Alcides.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Herc gained Reincarnation Pandora because of his corruption into a partial avenger, i.e. it's the NP of Avenger Herc.

I have to ask a question on the subject of Phantasmal Species. So I'm running a D&D campaign with a fate spin and I was wondering what classification monsters like angels, beholders and fiends would fall under?

Also, may I ask if anyone is available to consult for a fate based quest I'm running over on SB?
 
Ars Longinus said:
So I'm running a D&D campaign with a fate spin and I was wondering what classification monsters like angels, beholders and fiends would fall under?
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Angels in Nasu are 'vessels of power'; Waver has an exposition monologe about them in the first Case Files Book. Unfortunately I'm not versed in DnD enough to pinpoint what the DnD versions are in Nasu terms; mind giving a brief explanation for those unfamiliar?
 
Grue said:
Angels in Nasu are 'vessels of power'; Waver has an exposition monologe about them in the first Case Files Book. Unfortunately I'm not versed in DnD enough to pinpoint what the DnD versions are in Nasu terms; mind giving a brief explanation for those unfamiliar?
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Done, so according to DND 5e, angels act as servants for good aligned gods, being created from their 'Astral Essence'. All angels are lawful good, you could say they are a conceptual manifestation of 'law' and 'good'.
 
Grue said:
Angels in Nasu are 'vessels of power'; Waver has an exposition monologe about them in the first Case Files Book. Unfortunately I'm not versed in DnD enough to pinpoint what the DnD versions are in Nasu terms; mind giving a brief explanation for those unfamiliar?
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That's just angels as a foundation for magecraft though, isn't it? I don't think we know much (or anything) about actual angels.

Ars Longinus said:
I have to ask a question on the subject of Phantasmal Species. So I'm running a D&D campaign with a fate spin and I was wondering what classification monsters like angels, beholders and fiends would fall under?
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You're probably going to have to decide for yourself where Angels and Beholders fall. Fiends are basically demons right? There's Phantasmal Species demons (the ones we fight in FGO). I don't think they've been given a classification though, maybe check
Jack's fight with Alcides
since a bunch were summoned there. I don't think they were just called Phantasmal Species there though, IIRC.
Demon Boars are Monstrous Beasts, the lowest rank, dunno if that helps you.
 
Thanks for that,

Does anybody know if any more info has been released on the mechanics of Regression to the Age of Gods
 
Ars Longinus said:
Thanks for that,

Does anybody know if any more info has been released on the mechanics of Regression to the Age of Gods
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Q: What do the Quality/Quantity/Composition of Regression to the Age of Gods mean in Beowulf's profile? Do Ploys, Arcueid, and Heroic Spirits have such designations? And what would their number be?

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Regression to the Age of Gods represents the extend at which they are capable of reproducing the Mysteries that existed on Earth before True Magic. Consider it to be like that, their own style of Magical Circuits. Quality represents "how distant from what humans are capable of" their pure Mysteries are. Quantity represents power. The higher the quantity, the greater the degree of influence over the surrounding environment. Since Beowulf only has a quantity of C, he can only display his power to an individual, or over a village.


Composition represents the era of the "Mystery". In terms of magecraft, it would be like Rune, Kabbalah, Black Magic and such.


Ploys are not of Age of Gods, so they cannot be assigned a number in Regression to the Age of Gods.


For Arcueid... Princess Arcueid should qualify. "Quality: B Quantity: A++ Composition: Before Common Era, pseudo-deified natural phenomenon"
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I believe this is the only stuff we have on it; anything else would require further Tsukihime or Mahoyo content to get past World Fate Domination( W.F.D.) , I assume.
 
TMdict now has the completely translated glossary of Case Files Material. Don't think I'd be allowed to link it, but some excerpts:

El-Melloi Classroom said:
Supervised by Lord El-Melloi II, a classroom where Modern Magecraft is taught by three to five professors (fluctuating over time).
For a time the El-Melloi Classroom was the only place teaching Modern Magecraft, so there are some who use the terms interchangeably. Strictly speaking, however, the El-Melloi Classroom is only a single part of the Faculty of Modern Magecraft, a small seminar of about fifteen students. Including auditing students, that number jumps to about fifty. Left alone, there would be a flood of students joining officially, but there may or may not exist a self-governing body of students within the classroom keeping strict control of it. And there may or may not be a black market for tickets to gain entry.
In one memory scene, Waver borrows money from Melvin in order to purchase the classroom. Really what he is purchasing is "the right of have a classroom in the headquarters of the Clock Tower." A classroom in the Clock Tower is something like a castle, so at the time Waver had to borrow enough money to buy a castle.
Furthermore, during the course of the events of Case Files, the number of teachers and students in the Faculty of Modern Magecraft grew considerably, reaching the numbers they have today.
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Cigars said:
One of the few Mystic Codes carried by El-Melloi II. The tobacco inside was specially put together by El-Melloi II himself. There are many varieties, from those used for defence, for setting up Bounded Fields, for stabilizing the mind, and for activating Magic Circuits.
As to why he decided on cigars, after being forced into the position of El-Melloi II, a panicked Waver Velvet was searching for some way to make himself look more Lord-like, to which some drunk magus mentioned that "A cigar and a suit are a man's weapons." Or something like that.
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Inorai Valueleta Atroholm said:
Aozaki Touko's teacher. Head of one of the Three Great Aristocratic Families, Valueleta. Lord of the Faculty of Creation, she was a Brand, a magus of the highest practical rank.
As that consequently places her as the teacher of Araya Souren and a certain other individual, more care was taken in writing her for Case Files than any other character. That being said, when asked about her general image, the response that came back was. "Got it. I'll leave it all up to you, Mr. Sanda." The insane image Type Moon had garnered up to that point had just been reinforced. One could say that was the point the author came to terms with the fact that Case Files was going to be accelerated as a whole.
She possesses a triple affinity for Earth, Water, and Wind. Her specialty is Sympathetic Magecraft. Though she only showed a brief look at her abilities in the series, she is especially skilled with magecraft using sand, and the small bag she carries around with her at all times can spill out an immeasurable amount of it. Within the series, Touko says something along the lines of "Please spare me one of your pictures at least." That is because she knows full well what fate awaits those who are drawn in her sand pictures.
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