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Traveller, The Rise of Empire: A Naval Design, Procurement and Command Quest

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[x] Plan: Electric Eye
-[x] It must be advanced.
-[x] It must host a permanent cadre.
-[x] Send them South, to Fornice

If we are to use our embassy as a spy station (and Equus is a prime target to spy upon, being recently incorporated - coquered, as we think - into Hermosan state), then these are the options.
 
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Debating the trade off on going south vs north right now. I guess the possibility of getting another system under our sphere of influence, but north is logistically closer for us at this point, I think.
 
Rat King said:
Debating the trade off on going south vs north right now. I guess the possibility of getting another system under our sphere of influence, but north is logistically closer for us at this point, I think.
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Yeah, I think this should be our maximal extension to south for a time being. We should not leave Fornice hanging, as someone else would act about the system if we won't (like Hermosa grabbed Equus). But that should be it. We should then contact Northerners (and explore further north-west and north-east), do more backyard diplomacy with Xyri/Nova Refugio, engage more with Noctocole and Aslan, explore more in their direction and so on. And there is Garda-Villis, too.

We are building new diplo-scouts to make more than one contact at the same time, so this should become a bit easier in future.
 
[x] Plan: Electric Eye
Having a diplomatic team there only occasionally would seem to me to be a waste, now that we've established contact.
 
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11-6: Who goes there?
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    • Adhoc vote count started by 4WheelSword on Oct 7, 2024 at 7:14 AM, finished with 12 posts and 7 votes.
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    We must plan for a diplomatic station. What are our guiding principles? It must be advanced. It must host a permanent cadre.
    What of the diplomats? Send them South, to Fornice

    Available Budget: 849.239MCr
    Current Dockyard Usage: 16,400Dtons
    Current Pilot Usage: 81/80


    Diplomatic Outreach
    While the HSWS has one plan for the diplomatic station that they will build for the Hermosan contingent, the Hermosan architects have other ideas. They agree that it must be permanently crewed and advanced in design, of course, but they also insist that it should have docking and crew facilities for a semi-permanent guard ship - that is, a rotating assignment wherein a warship will be docked and its crew housed aboard the station. This will ensure the safety and security of the diplomatic station without requiring a constantly active war-fleet on site.

    As for the crew facilities, they hope that this will encourage others in the system to visit and meet with members of the Hermosan diplomatic and military corps, in order to engender trust between our two states.

    As such, the Hermosan architects project a required tonnage of 200 tons for the visiting crew, a further 200 of docking facilities for the visiting ship, fuel supplies to last a significant time of at least 600-1,000 tons, and a probably final mass of 2-3,000 tons. This would include significant armouring and defensive weaponry (Sandcasters and PD lasers) to ensure the safety of the station even in times of crisis.

    Are there any further modifications to this plan that the HSWS would like to propose?
    [ ] It should host an FLF contingent
    [ ] It should host a ceremonial fighter squadron
    [ ] It should be able to source and refine its own fuel
    [ ] It should be able to defend itself more aggressively against hostile action.
    [ ] No, this is acceptable. Draw up the plans.
    [ ] Other - write in.

    Fornice and all its merits
    The diplomatic ship - after several weeks of cooling off, minor repairs and a change of diplomatic staff to represent the varied needs of the destination - sets out South under escort from a cruiser and a Flotilla Supply Ship. They have a long trip to make, with six weeks just to get there ignoring all the built-up transit time between arriving and departing each system on the way. Then they plan to spend between a month and three months on Fornice proper, depending on how negotiations and intelligence operations go.

    We expect to see the HSLS Bá Kim return to home between 18y00m00w and 18y02m00w at which point we can hopefully, finally, send a mission North to the curious states up there.

    Deep Hope
    A courier arrives in Home after just a weeks jump, bringing news from Deep Hope. A ship, large and shining, has arrived in the system and after a short transit towards the station has demanded fuelling. Apparently they have suffered some minor issue with their jump drive, and have requested the opportunity to effect repairs aboard the Deep Hope Mining Station before returning to where they came.

    Where they have come from, as well as the design and make-up of their ship, have all been kept seemingly intentionally quiet. Sensor readings seemingly can't even get a good scan of the volume of the approaching ship, let alone any of the surface details. As such the courier made a sprint back to Home to request assistance, reinforcements or, frankly, anything the HSWS would feel appropriate.

    What is the appropriate response?
    [ ] Dispatch a task force (what forces?)
    [ ] Dispatch a courier to ensure the unknown vessel receives what it requests
    [ ] Dispatch a ship with our best sensors to get a read on the ship
    [ ] Other - write in.

    Please present votes as plans. Voting opens at .
     
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    • Do we have an equivalent to a floating drydock for spacecraft? We should bend over backwards to help these stricken travellers as much as possible (and in doing so, get as much information as possible on their ship, and see if we can trade our assistance or local trade goods for shiny high-tech goodies). I'd send whatever repair vessels we have in the hopes of them using our facilities, along with a trade vessel loaded with both repair components as well as luxury goods that might be desired by the crew after a long voyage, and an intelligence vessel.

    Basically, [x] all of the above and more.

    As for the diplomatic station, a fuel refinery seems like it'd make sense - that way we can eventually build it out into a trade hub
     
    Plan: Within a loading gauge
    -[ ] Write in - it should be no more than 3Kton, so we can build it armoured and trnsport it MDS-style in a Modular Freighter.
    --[ ] If it would be able to host an FLF contingent with this requirement, do it.
    --[ ] If it would be able to host ceremonial fighter squadron on top of being up to 3k-ton and FLF contingent, then add it too.
    -[ ] Dispatch a task force to ensure the unknown vessel receives what it requests, and to get a read on the ship
    --[ ] Two CFA and 4 ICbIII (from Home and Reserve Fleet).
    --[ ] Vice-Admiral Isa Burakgazi is to be polite and establish a friendly rapport. Our fleet is not to make threatening moves - it was sent purely to ensure mutual security (if, say, the unknown ship is under pursuit). Learn what we can, assist with what we could. Look professional.


    My second thoughts about the task force - the larger it will be, the longer it would assemble and the later it will get to Deep Hope.
     
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    I'm not sure we should throw the book at 'em. A single CFA or enhanced frigate with good sensors would be enough without scrambling everything.
     
    After delaying visiting the north yet another time we've received a mysterious visitor to our northern fueling station. If we do wish to dispatch a force, I feel like it'd make the most sense to simply send the expeditionary flotilla instead of forming up a ad-hoc group. It's what it was made for after all.
     
    [X] OPLAN: Quick Clot

    [X] It should host an FLF contingent.
    [X] It should be able to source and refine its own fuel.
    [X] Dispatch a task force, consisting of our Expeditionary force and the best signals intelligence craft we have to serve as long-range reconnaissance. Broadcast messages on all known frequencies stating our peaceful intent to support their repair and survival efforts, but be prepared for any eventuality, including a direct FLF boarding action.
    FLASH OVERRIDE MESSAGE-EMERGENCY MILITARY TRAFFIC-ENCRYPTED
    Source: Home Net-Relay, HSWS Central Command Base.
    To: Deep Hope Base Duty Officer-EYES ONLY.
    From: Novohal, L. , Maj., Multispectrum Warfare Office Command Section-EYES ONLY.

    Help's on the way, lads and lasses. Hang on and if the shooting starts, sell it dearly. Make sure whoever these folks are, they're not waiting to link with the station and board it. If they're on the level, do everything you can for them.

    MWO out.
     
    We should only send ships from Home. If the Expeditionary Flotilla is still at Staging Point (or anywhere other than Home) then it will be an extra 2-3 weeks before any reply reaches Deep Hope.

    I think we should send one or two ships that we have handy that have good sensors and, if we have one spare, a support ship or merchant ship. We should bring with us good sensors, diplomats and materials and experts for repairs and some luxury goods.

    What's the deal with the diplomatic station? Is this a station that we are building that will be deployed in Heimdall to host Hermosan diplomats and warships or are we building something to send to Equus? Are the Hermosans making one as well to similar spec?
     
    Uhhh, I don't feel great with just two votes? Gonna give it a couple hours.

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    Do we have an equivalent to a floating drydock for spacecraft?
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    Not really. An FSS with plenty of supplies and a repair team is the closest, or if the ship is small enough you could put it aboard a conveyor to bring back to Home for yard repairs.

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    We should only send ships from Home.

    What's the deal with the diplomatic station? Is this a station that we are building that will be deployed in Heimdall to host Hermosan diplomats and warships or are we building something to send to Equus? Are the Hermosans making one as well to similar spec?
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    Don't worry, I wont screw you by making it take additional weeks.

    The intention is that you will build a station in Heimdall for Hermosan diplomants and the Hermosans will build one in Equus for Home diplomats, according to an identical brief.
     
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