Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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This brings into focus just how amazing what Suyin did was. The formation was sabotaged and she managed to stabilize and finish it. I can't imagine that a formation that's supposed to have 5 supporting structures suddenly only having 4 is an easy thing to recover from. Let alone finish.
 
Those whose lands the Sect callously poisoned with their vents.
That's...interesting. The Argent Vents reach even into the impure depths?

Is it a matter of geomancy? The rearrangement of Qi flows on the surface acting to expose the underground to the purity of the surface? Or is it a matter of the Argent liquid itself? Li Suyin's Argent liquid-made Argent Web pills bind to a cultivator's impurities, after all.

It's unfortunate that comparative history is unlikely to be done any time soon. Apparently the strengthening Argent Vents the Sect has been restoring over generations have been damaging the underground, but is this a relatively recent phenomenon? Did the poisoning weaken when the Xi first wrecked the vents? Is the strengthening vents the cause of the declining impurity spirit stones talked about when Ling Qi infiltrated the underground village?

His sleeve slid down as he reached high to begin chiseling the next character, revealing a bangle of bone on his wrist.
This is the other plot line we could have followed if we voted for the underground mission, I see. Instead of encountering the White Sky and following up on the Zeqing's lineage plot, Ling Qi could have seen Yan Renshu's stealth talisman — similar (the same?) as that worn by the Cloud Tribe Shaman she encountered during the Outer Sect — and followed up on Deep Dweller infiltration/asset plot.

Ngl, I prefer the White Sky plot line; the whole different culture so similar yet different to the ancestors of the Emerald Seas is candy to my brain.
 
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That's...interesting. The Argent Vents reach even into the impure depths?

Is it a matter of geomancy? The rearrangement of Qi flows on the surface acting to expose the underground to the purity of the surface? Or is it a matter of the Argent liquid itself? Li Suyin's Argent liquid-made Argent Web pills bind to a cultivator's impurities, after all.

It's unfortunate that comparative history is unlikely to be done any time soon. Apparently the strengthening Argent Vents the Sect has been restoring over generations have been damaging the underground, but is this a relatively recent phenomenon? Did the poisoning weaken when the Xi first wrecked the vents? Is the strengthening vents the cause of the declining impurity spirit stones talked about when Ling Qi infiltrated the underground village?
This is pretty interesting. The vents are natural and have been around for thousands of years at least. We also know from Li Suyin that argent liquid was really the only thing that interacted with the impure cores that's the basis of her research. What is going on between the vents and the gnawing ones?
 
You know, I think the thing I'm most interested about will be to find out what CRX's reaction to this will be once the truth comes out.

After all, she was lenient on an enemy, which give him the opportunity to secure his own advancement, which put him in position to betray the Sect. Which could be bad, considering she's currently struggling to be more merciful and human.
 
It's funny, Suyin was also a talented commoner crippled out of jealousy by a noble and she turned out so much better, and even managed to mitigate most of the damage that he caused. With less apparent cultivation talent mind you.
 
You know, I think the thing I'm most interested about will be to find out what CRX's reaction to this will be once the truth comes out.

After all, she was lenient on an enemy, which give him the opportunity to secure his own advancement, which put him in position to betray the Sect. Which could be bad, considering she's currently struggling to be more merciful and human.
Or or, we could not tell her. Ever. Ever ever ever. Let's let this decision forever be forgotten. And really, does some one like CRX really have time to be dealing with a lowlife like Renshu. Just let our local necromancer deal with it. I am sure Li Suyin, who isn't at all vengeful, will be perfectly willing to show the worm just how high the mountain of genius truly is.
 
You know, I think the thing I'm most interested about will be to find out what CRX's reaction to this will be once the truth comes out.

After all, she was lenient on an enemy, which give him the opportunity to secure his own advancement, which put him in position to betray the Sect. Which could be bad, considering she's currently struggling to be more merciful and human.

What could she have done?

No, seriously, what could she have done in this case? The laws basically said that there was only so much oppression that could be accepted, and it was handed off to higher authorities--who then saw fit to trust a shady individual with critical duties without setting a solid minder on him.

She might feel some guilt, but it's liable to just be another chink in the Argent Sect's respectability combined with the whole Caldera Raid clusterfuck in the first place.
 
What could she have done?

No, seriously, what could she have done in this case? The laws basically said that there was only so much oppression that could be accepted, and it was handed off to higher authorities--who then saw fit to trust a shady individual with critical duties without setting a solid minder on him.

She might feel some guilt, but it's liable to just be another chink in the Argent Sect's respectability combined with the whole Caldera Raid clusterfuck in the first place.
Realistically? Very little, other than continue wreck his projects. But she was merciful, which gave Renshu an advantage he used to get a decent position in the sect. Remember, the Cai family believe anything that goes wrong is their responsibility.

Like, I'm not saying that when this eventually gets revealed she'll have a total breakdown and decide that her the Path of Total Oppression was right all along, but we're probably gonna want to keep an eye on her to be safe.
 
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Yes, the Sect had only been another oppressor, a pet of the Duchess and her nobles, Yan Renshu thought scornfully, all their vaunted independence from petty local politics a lie. His sleeve slid down as he reached high to begin chiseling the next character, revealing a bangle of bone on his wrist. A talisman like any other to any senses.

A welcome gift, from the being he had met in the deep caverns, where he had been forced to go harvesting with his own hands, he knew in his shielded thoughts hidden from prying elders and Senior Disciples alike by the talisman. The Empire was not the only polity in this region, whatever it claimed.

How arrogant the empire was, never considering those who dwelled below, those who had watched their squabbles and their infighting for millenia. Those whose lands the Sect callously poisoned with their vents.

Yes, Yan Renshu could understand how that would feel. His contact too, understood his situation. Understood how he had been wronged. Gutou as the being called himself for ease of communication, had been watching the Sect for a very long time, and he inhuman as he was had been the one to notice Yan Renshu's talent.
Hm. So use of bone reminds me of the Barbarian Shaman Ling Qi, and Su Ling encountered in the outer sect, which if that was their doing would explain how the child managed to get into the region undetected.

Also the Corpse Eaters are apparently incredibly good at turning hatred, and/or anger at the Empire into action alongside supporting it. This is going to be 'fun' to combat long-term as their ability to bring you to perceieve their pov scaled well enough to harm Jiao.
When his chisel came down, severing the seventh stroke of the eighth power storing character, the stone began to crumble, spewing toxic underground air.

When portions of the array throughout the room began to erupt, unable to contain unrouted power. He relished the screams.

He would get the recognition he deserved one way or another.
Actually while him outright joining the opposition is more likely them simply using supernaturally effective persuasive to make Yan Renshu get the recognition he deserves by dying in the line of duty, or gloss over the conflict of interest from him getting it via fixing the damage he caused, which would make the talisman cover for just how badly he'd been mentally influenced.
 
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This is pretty interesting. The vents are natural and have been around for thousands of years at least. We also know from Li Suyin that argent liquid was really the only thing that interacted with the impure cores that's the basis of her research. What is going on between the vents and the gnawing ones?
If you recall this interlude:
It is impossible to speak of the Argent Peak Sect's history in any detail without acknowledging the strange qi vents which give the Sect its name. First recorded in the reports of the Xi era expansion and subjugation of the southern tribes, the Argent Vents were at first simply thought to be signs of spirit stone veins in the peaks. Although this was not entirely correct, it spurred significant assets to be assigned to capturing and settling the region, driving away the barbarians who squatted around the vents.

Early mining efforts turned out to be disappointing, while seams of spirit stones were present, they were of low quality hardly producing any significant number of green stones. While still lucrative and allowing the Xi to fuel a boom in their common soldiery that allowed better maintenance of their claims, institutional interest soon turned elsewhere.

Thankfully, some among those assigned to governorship of the region found an interest in the vents. Many spirit stone rich regions have something similar, clefts and crevices that expel compressed spiritual energies from the spirit stone seams under the earth. Typically these indicate high potency stone deposits where the energies flowing along natural lines rupture the physical earth. This is the source of Mount Tai's eternal shroud of spiritually potent mist.

This proved wrong for the Argent Vents, to the frustration of the Xi. Argent Vents rather than being points where energies become overpressurized are instead points where opposing qi types meet and find perfect equilibrium. The pure energies produced by this transmute surrounding materials in low grade but relatively quickly renewing spirit stones. Scholars remain uncertain what causes this unique interaction, which does not occur anywhere else in the Empire.

Unfortunately early mining efforts disrupted this equilibrium in many places, and spirit stone renewal theory was not so far advanced, so most of these unique seams were simply mined out and destroyed. In following years this served to highlight the remaining vents effects. The Argent Peaks region was a calm and temperate place, avoided by more tempestuous spirits and the worse of the floods and rockslides endemic to other portions of the Wall.

As the vents broke down however, this began to change. Scholars among the Xi left to govern began to theorize that the energies released by the vents had neutralizing effects on unbalanced and chaotic qi. Presenting their findings to the counts of clan Li, who had been assigned administration of the center-south territories, they were given funds to study the region. This was the origin of the Argent Sect.


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What then are the benefits of Argent Qi? Argent Qi is calm and accepting, it is inherently balanced in a way few other energies are. This enables the cultivation of Argent Qi to interact smoothly with all but a small number of qi types. It is superb for the cultivation of qi pools in young cultivators, since energies gained from its cultivation arts do not introduce conflict with that generated by other arts, and even when no longer cultivated, Argent Qi easily transforms into other types with minimal loss.
Similarly, though it it harshly limited in supply, the liquid in Argent Vents is highly useful as a base for elixirs and pills. Most such bases introduce at least some level of impurity to the mixture, but the Argent fluid is on the short list of materials which do not.

In addition, despite the difficulty of making a study of such personal things, those who cultivate Argent Qi often report less discomfort and injury when attempting early realm breakthroughs and the clearing of meridians, which while a minor effect is quite helpful for the maintenance of armed forces and the teaching of children.

There are a number of theories as to how this came about. Some scholars say that the Argent region lays upon an exact and unique crossing point in the world's meridians. Other scholars posit that the particular arrangement of the mountains in the region produces a sort of natural geomantic focus. Others posit that the liquid which is found within Argent vents is a not a byproduct, but an actual source, a naturally occurring deposit that simply does not occur elsewhere within the lands claimed by the empire.

What is known is that Argent Vents are extremely reliant on natural geomancy, that is the lines of energy created by the arrangements of geography and natural processes. Much of the Sect's efforts has been bent toward restoring the damage done by early mining, and this research has born much fruit. In early days the sect learned enough to halt the degradation of the remaining sites, via careful landscaping and restoration programs.

Over time, sect scholars discovered that it was possible to restore 'dead' vents through careful transplantation of liquid and crystal growths to the sites, in a manner akin to making cuttings from trees bloom. It is a slow process however, and even in the modern day the oldest of the 'repaired' vents do not match the potency of the remaining original sites.

Slow as it is, there are many reasons to be optimistic. It has been tested and proven that the rate of recovery is improved as more sites are repaired and grow, and so although it has been millenia, the full recovery of the region may be only a scant few centuries away! With the last of the ruined sites documented and seeded, the picture of the original geomantic framework is becoming clearer by the day.

Alas for the hastiness of our ancestors! Still, the Sect's understanding has advanced greatly, and with its Great Sect Status, some have even begun experimentation into the establishment of wholly new sites, and increases in the potency and spread rate of Argent Qi.

One day, if such is possible the availability of low ranking stones may even increase exponentially! The effects of such an expansion would no doubt have tremendous effects on the quality of life for all within the empire!

-Excerpt from a leaflet released by Argent Sect to local noble families.

The vents are natural, but early mining efforts ruined a lot of them and efforts to help them recover began late and were slow going, but did eventually bear fruit.

Or from the Corpse Eater perspective, it probably looked like previously hazardous and uninhabitable territory became hospitable for some reason, stayed that way for centuries and they moved in, but ever since the Argent Sect figured out how to grow the Argent Vents again, the geomantic efforts of the sect have been fueling a slowly mounting but massively threatening ecological disaster for the Corpse Eaters in the area.
 
But how well would Li Suyin have recovered if without her good friends Ling Qi and Su Ling.
Very poorly. Remember that Li Suyin was also doing a long term bullying campaign against those who bullied her.

If Li Suyin's path wasn't diverted by Ling Qi, things would probably have turned out horribly for her, considering how easy it would be to get back at Suyin through her parents.
 
It's funny, Suyin was also a talented commoner crippled out of jealousy by a noble and she turned out so much better, and even managed to mitigate most of the damage that he caused. With less apparent cultivation talent mind you.
From what the Elders said, his rage and desire for revenge after being crippled and the noble getting away with it warped Yan's Way just as it was forming, presumably turning it into something built on vengeance and hate. He also doesn't seem to have had any sort of support group or friends to help pull him back from that, and the only people he was even slightly close to were the ones he was blackmailing.This absolutely doesn't excuse his actions, but it does make them more understandable. Especially since he's wrong about CRX, and to a lesser extent Meizhen. Both of them would likely have taken his side if they had reason to look into his background, and he might have gained the peers he so clearly needed to pull him back from self-destructing.

The more we see of the setting, the more clear it is that carrying some sort of companionship with you as you cultivate is vitally important as a way to retain your humanity.
 
If you recall this interlude:


The vents are natural, but early mining efforts ruined a lot of them and efforts to help them recover began late and were slow going, but did eventually bear fruit.

Or from the Corpse Eater perspective, it probably looked like previously hazardous and uninhabitable territory became hospitable for some reason, stayed that way for centuries and they moved in, but ever since the Argent Sect figured out how to grow the Argent Vents again, the geomantic efforts of the sect have been fueling a slowly mounting but massively threatening ecological disaster for the Corpse Eaters in the area.
And I'm sure they're just thrilled with the idea that Argent Vents might start sprouting up all over the Empire. No wonder they're finally attacking in force.
 
One of the things I found the most outrageous in this little piece was how angry Renshu was at having to gather ingredients. He just couldn't fathom not being given the time and materials to just work.

Li Suyin, who scored higher than him, went out to collect materials. She put on her butcher's apron and dug her hand through beetle guts. She put the work in to gather materials. Then she showed her research was worth supporting. Li Suyin gets material funneled to her now because she first went out, got her hands dirty, and showed the value of her projects.

You don't get to sit in a dank cave and expect resources funneled to you for no reason. Puppets? You think that's special? Li Suyin is doing that too, and better!
 
They can't exactly create more argent vents if I recall but repair the ones that are already there.
The sect is studying the possibility of creating new argent vents. Apparently the liquid and crystals are like cuttings. Taking small amounts from a healthy vent and putting them in a defunct vent makes a new healthy vent. This has led to research on how to create brand new vents with the "cuttings".
 
He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would sacrifice himself to give the Sect a bloody nose. That bone bangle was almost certainly some sort of escape talisman that would bring him safely to his allies.

Yan Renshu sounds EXACTLY like the kind of person that would hurt himself in order to give the nobles a bloody nose.

I mean, yeah, he is evil, but his motivation is to stick it up to the nobles as revenge (despite the fact that he acts like he says nobles act, and the fact that he attacks indiscriminately first when, without that behaviour, he could maybe have gone in the inner sect in his second or third year). He is a self important hypocrite who may have a point but loses it due to the way he hurts other commoners, but the way he rationalises things, it is possible that he'll sacrifice himself for revenge.
 
Also the Corpse Eaters are apparently incredibly good at turning hatred, and/or anger at the Empire into action alongside supporting it. This is going to be 'fun' to combat long-term as their ability to bring you to perceieve their pov scaled well enough to harm Jiao.
I'd argue that the Imperial institutions are just very good at earning hatred, and the Gnawing Ones don't have to do much but offer an alternative to sucking it up and dealing with whatever you think they did to fuck you over.
 
The vents are natural, but early mining efforts ruined a lot of them and efforts to help them recover began late and were slow going, but did eventually bear fruit.

Or from the Corpse Eater perspective, it probably looked like previously hazardous and uninhabitable territory became hospitable for some reason, stayed that way for centuries and they moved in, but ever since the Argent Sect figured out how to grow the Argent Vents again, the geomantic efforts of the sect have been fueling a slowly mounting but massively threatening ecological disaster for the Corpse Eaters in the area.
Remember the rivers of impurity we came across?
I think thats what happens when you 'break' an Argent Vent. The perfectly balanced and harmonized Argent Qi becomes concentrated impurity, which is immensely valuable to THEIR cultivation.

Possibly what the whole city was built to exploit even
 
Can't wait to stomp Yan Renshu again when he appears as corpse food and go all "who are you again" just to rub salt all over his shattered pride.

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