Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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- Ling Jie is outside of the main line of familial arts - no darkness, precious little music, and a formations focus. She also clearly has enormous resources to call on. At the same time, my read of her has her... with relatively little direct parental supervision? She reads to me like someone who's been raised primarily by servants. She's very much a creature of impulse. Those that could reign her in do not spend what little time they have with her doing so. That combination of "she's not important enough for a great deal of direct personal attention from clan heads" and "she has access to ridiculous amounts of resources" speaks to the idea that the Ling are... pretty much fabulously wealthy at this point. If we assume that CRX has not yet succeeded her mother (and we've every reason to expect that that would take a very long time) then that speaks to a Ling Qi who's more than just Cyan.

I get the feeling of a child who, thanks to her illness, is doted upon by her family. However as a genius whose talents are outside of the main clan's line, she is the perfect candidate to being sent to the (Argent?) Sect. Sure there's plenty of Red and Yellow Arts for her to use in the archives but Green is important enough to not have LQ just shoe-horn Art or Dance into existing Arts or creating successors for stuff that's outside of her main cultivation.

This tension of doting upon her, her vulnerability, and her being sent away means that Ling Qi has probably requested that she be given an amount of resources that's a little silly for a Yellow. Maybe she spent a few dozen GSS on talismans for Ling Jie?
 
"Nope!" Lady Ling said. The paper shot out of Mount Blanket and into the roaring fireplace. "We are here to talk about questions you have, not questions some ugly little river worm wants you to ask, Hm! If he wants to ask me a question then he needs to do two things. First, he needs to kowtow, in public, east three times. Second, while prostrating, he must beg forgiveness from the great guardian of my clan for defiling my ears with his small ugly words. Then I will deign to hear a question from him. Of course, for each question he'll need to repeat the two steps, Hm! Be sure to tell that ugly little thing, alright?"

Heh, I really like Lady Ling, she's incredibly fun. I'm looking forward to when she utterly humiliates that guy for bullying her new friend. She'll probably end up buying and forgiving her whole family's debt too.
 
Ling Jie gave me Nero vibes, the Nero from Nasuverse. Also seems to be the xianxia trope of the sick genius.
 
Future Days: A Meeting with Ling Jie
I really liked this omake!

The Tao fellow is going to be in for a very rude awakening when Ling Jie learns about how Yang has been paying off her family debt. Each red stone spent now slows down current growth which means that Yang will be slower in reaching yellow soul and all the fun things that follow from that. Ling Jie might also have words with Yang about undervaluing the knowledge of formation craft that Yan received from Ling Jie's august self!

Also, I have suspicions that Yang's payment of Red stones isn't actually going to pay off her family's debt. Just a suspicion given that Tao can't communicate to his family yet and he feels like the type of character to forget in his letters home just how much Yang has paid to get rid of her family debt. A tactic that Ling Jie will frown most heavily on, and might even rope into the equation the greatest weapon regarding administration that exist in the Emerald Seas, a Cai!

After all, it seems that Ling Jie is just looking for a friend to geek over formation work (beautifully of course!) and it would be a poor friend to let another friend be mistreated and manipulated. Ling Jie is also a person who doesn't seem to do things by half measures.

Truly, Tao's greatest mistake was instructing Yang to pursue Ling Jie's friendship.
 
Ling Jie is outside of the main line of familial arts - no darkness, precious little music, and a formations focus. She also clearly has enormous resources to call on. At the same time, my read of her has her... with relatively little direct parental supervision? She reads to me like someone who's been raised primarily by servants. She's very much a creature of impulse. Those that could reign her in do not spend what little time they have with her doing so. That combination of "she's not important enough for a great deal of direct personal attention from clan heads" and "she has access to ridiculous amounts of resources" speaks to the idea that the Ling are... pretty much fabulously wealthy at this point. If we assume that CRX has not yet succeeded her mother (and we've every reason to expect that that would take a very long time) then that speaks to a Ling Qi who's more than just Cyan.
I got the impression she was a moon/sun cultivator and it felt like a lot of her speech patterns were similar to Sixiang which makes her mercurial and whimsical.

Not an archer so 0/10 :V

Also lol some commoner merchant family scion thinking they can intrude upon a ducal retainer's family. He keeps this up and Jie is gonna march into town center and say "Nobody talk to this guy, he has personally insulted me" and that'll be it.
 
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I'm curious about the seizures that Jie experiences and how much convincing it would take for Ling Qi to let her daughter who suffers said crippling seizure attacks out of her sight.
I got the impression she was a moon/sun cultivator and it felt like a lot of her speech patterns were similar to Sixiang which makes her mercurial and whimsical.
This is what happens when you leave Sixiang to babysit. Your kids start JoJo posing.
 
Yeah, very much Nero vibes... LQ will have a heart attack or something

 
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- Ling Jie is outside of the main line of familial arts - no darkness, precious little music, and a formations focus. She also clearly has enormous resources to call on. At the same time, my read of her has her... with relatively little direct parental supervision? She reads to me like someone who's been raised primarily by servants. She's very much a creature of impulse. Those that could reign her in do not spend what little time they have with her doing so. That combination of "she's not important enough for a great deal of direct personal attention from clan heads" and "she has access to ridiculous amounts of resources" speaks to the idea that the Ling are... pretty much fabulously wealthy at this point. If we assume that CRX has not yet succeeded her mother (and we've every reason to expect that that would take a very long time) then that speaks to a Ling Qi who's more than just Cyan.
Mmm, I'd kinda disagree with a few points there.

Firstly, I'd say that what we see from LQ is that beyond keeping them safe, she's likely to keep a reasonably loose reign on her kids. She knows from experience that trying to be too controlling is counterproductive, and it's against her nature. And yes ofc servents will play a significant role here - they are nobility after all.

@Neshuakadal has noted that the Ling would still be in a position where they haven't really expanded to the limits of their resources yet, so they can spend more on individual cultivators. However, I would also note that the omake is largely viewed from the perspective of a commoner. However, we know that, at the end of the day, Ling Jie is just a baby yellow, and thus from the perspective of a noble clan pretty cheap to support. Like all of those paintings? They're just things she made. Yes it looks really rich, but LQ just had to pay for the materials to support her baby painter there. Not that hard. Similarly, the brushes which seem so valuable to Yang are likely not that valuable. She has multiple ones, so they're clearly not actual serious talismans - they're just tools. Probably just good Red-quality brushes, maybe worth a few RSS each. Now, this seems horribly expensive to Yang, but to Ling Jie, just like Xiulan back in the day, they're pocket change.

Now, even a basic viscount is fabulously wealthy when we look at the big picture, and given how long I'd expect it to be before LQ/CRX have kids I'd expect them to be indigo at least... but none of this really requires that the Ling stand out as wealthy beyond just being a solid noble clan imo.
 
Turn 11: Arc 5-6
Ling Qi opened her eyes, and looked out over the sea of dream in her mind. Sixiang's presence had not changed too much since her last visit. She sat atop a hill formed from cushions and silks and furniture, but it was a little neater now. Little rolling hills like this stretched on from the shore, natural in contour, and only surreal in their composition. Sixiang had begun to fill in details though. Here and there thin silver barked tree trunks sprouted from the 'soil. Their canopies were masses of twinkling dream figments and starlight, wrapped like mist around slender branches.

Ling Qi took a deep breath, and scented flowers on the air.

"What can I say, you and Zhengui got me on a gardening kick," Sixiang said.

Ling Qi didn't startle, instead glancing to the side where an avatar of her muse rose from the cushioned hills. Sixiang had changed their avatar a little, their wispy hair was longer, and the silks they wore were loose, hanging of the avatar's thin shoulders.

"It looks lovely," Ling Qi said quietly, smoothing her gown as she sat down beside them.

Sixiang winced, putting a hand to their chest. "Ouch, you really going to be that formal with me?"

Ling Qi huffed, and lowered her eyes. "Quit that. You know I wasn't trying for formal."

"Nah, but the mask is starting to bleed in a bit isn't it?" Sixiang replied, leaning back to stare up at the false stars in the sky.

Ling Qi didn't reply. Sixiang wasn't wrong. When she had begun to move in noble circles that mode of speech had been an affectation, something she had to consciously use. Now it came out naturally. It was a small thing, such a small thing. It was emblematic though.

She was changing.

"I don't think that's all bad though," Sixiang said to the sky. "But, you know, it feels like your problem is like you're still feeling the opposite."

"I'm still a coward," Ling Qi whispered.

Sixiang didn't say anything, the only sound was the surf below and the whisper of the wind.

Ling Qi clenched her fists fingers digging into the silk she sat on. That's what it came down too, when you stripped the other rationalizations away. Once again, she had hurt someone because she was afraid. Just like the dream of blood, just like in the streets. Just like when she had abandoned her Mother. Her mannerisms had changed, but she hadn't. Even the problems with Zhengui, with Hanyi they came because she was afraid. Afraid to let them stand on their own.

"I don't think that's right," Sixiang said. "Yeah you decided to do something hurtful, you decided not to risk a smoother but more dangerous path, but there was more to it than fear, wasn't there?"

"If that had been anyone but Renxiang, they'd have broken," Ling Qi said. Even the echoes of that memory she had experienced indirectly made her stomach churn.

"Yeah, but it was little miss sparkles wasn't it?" Sixiang said dryly. "I mean you have a point, she's the kind of girl who breaks instead of bends, but you'd need a lot more pressure than that to do it, I think. I think you knew that deep down. I might not totally get it, but that's the difference with your boss isn't it?"

"I'm not sure what you mean," Ling Qi frowned, looking up to meet the spirit's sparkling black eyes.

"It's the difference between blocking a knife with your throat so a friend can take a shot at an assassin, and cracking someone upside the head with their trauma to break 'em out of an illusion," Sixiang replied. "Instinctively, you only trusted one of those people to be fine."

Ling Qi opened her mouth, then closed it and frowned, looking back to the sea.

"That's why it felt so bad, seeing her lose composure like that, didn't it?" Sixiang said.

"Of course, I would be upset, seeing my friend hurt like that," Ling Qi shot back. "I wasn't sure if Liming was taking control of her for a moment there."

"That's fair," Sixiang said calmly. "I don't think I'm totally off base though."

Were they? Ling Qi wanted to say so, but there might have been something too it. She was afraid though, so much of her was still rooted in fear. After all what was loneliness but the fear of isolation?

Well, it was desire too.

That was the crux. Fear and desire together too easily became the sort of darkness embodied by Zeqing, clinging, smothering and ultimately deadly. She didn't want to become that. She had to extend those around her their own agency, but if she did…

"I don't think you'll ever not be afraid," Sixiang said bluntly. "But I think you're letting that distract you."

"So you think I chose to hurt Cai Renxiang because I thought she could take it?" Ling Qi replied bitterly.

"Yeah, that's about right," Sixiang replied, surprising her. The spirit cocked an eyebrow as she stared at them. "What, are you thinking that's bad?"

"Of course it is," Ling Qi spluttered.

"Is it though? Maybe it's just me, but I think you should trust people to get hurt more often," Sixiang said with a shrug. "Not like, hang 'em out to dry or anything, but yeah, you should trust people more."

Ling Qi frowned at them. "I trust…"

Ling Qi bit her own tongue, and looked down. "I feel like you're just trying to give me an out."

"Maybe, I like you more than her after all," Sixiang said cheerfully. "More importantly, you're annoyed at me instead of being gloomy about yourself now."

"You're horrible," Ling Qi grunted, squeezing her eyes shut.

It was more annoying that Sixiang was right. This… wasn't the same as the bloody dream or the streets. What she had done wasn't solely in the service of selfish cowardice. She had been talking herself into a depression.

But all the same, it had made something in her spirit twinge, the same wound that had been aching for months now, brought of her spirits request. Why then, if it wasn't just a matter of fear? It didn't help that she still didn't fully understand the cause of her pain.

"I'm pretty sure trust is a part of it," Sixiang said.

"You sound like a mountain echo," Ling Qi grumbled.

Even if they were probably right. Here in her head, she could admit that she was afraid her spirits could not keep up.

"You're first instinct is to smother, but you got front row seats to the extreme of that," Sixiang mused. "Think that might be a part of it?"

"Maybe," Ling Qi sighed. She didn't think that was the real root either though.

...Did it really all come back to power? She was still so very small and weak. Her path still stretched on, infinite and difficult. There was so much more distance left to run.

Yet there were so many things she had chosen to bind herself too.

"Ah, it's that fundamental huh," Sixiang grimaced.
"I can't stop Sixiang," Ling Qi murmured. "That ice spirit, that barbarian titan… even the duchess. There are so many people and things who can crush me. But I don't want to be alone again either."

Cultivation was an exercise in isolation. To be powerful was to be lonely. Elder Ying had taught her that. With each step you took, more peers fell away. The longer you lived, the more of your family and friends would die off. She hated the idea of that. Having looked on the face of the Duchess, even in memory, she hated it even more. If she got the power she needed, would she become like that? Not the same of course, but something equally inhuman in a different way?

One day, would she do something so awful to a child who just wanted to meet their mother?

"For what it's worth, I can't see the path you're on doing that," Sixiang said quietly, resting their hand on her shoulder. "But… yeah, deciding to go all the way isn't without cost, you know?"

Ling Qi nodded silently.

"I don't think you can stop either though," Sixiang said sadly. "It'd break you. I believe you'll find a solution though. Just because you can't stop doesn't mean you have to sprint and leave everyone behind, you know?"

"I don't want to slow down either," Ling Qi replied. "I-I at least have to keep up with Renxiang."

She didn't care for the idea of the girl advancing alone. Not when she saw what the end of that path could be.

"Stubborn," Sixiang huffed. "You're gonna have to make a choice somewhere though."


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Ling Qi opened her eyes with those words still echoing in her ears, brought out of her meditation by a hand on her shoulder. Looking up, she met Cai Renxiang's eyes.

"We must begin planning our approach," the other girl said. Her expression was stoic again, no sign of unpleasant emotion in her expression or voice.

"Ah, my apologies, Lady Cai," Ling Qi replied, standing up and offering a bow.

"There is nothing to apologize for," Cai Renxiang replied stiffly. "Do not cause me to remind you again."

Ling Qi kept her head bowed for a moment and then nodded. "As you like, my Lady. All the same please do not misunderstand my concerns."

Cai Renxiang squeezed her eyes shut for just a moment. "...Later, we may have a conversation on what you witnessed, Ling Qi."

"Yes, Lady Cai. It would be inappropriate now," Ling Qi said quietly. The other girl turned away, and led her from the curtained off meditation area set aside for them. The others were already gathered, Zhen's head snaked in through the entrance, resting on a cushion. Xia Lin stood stoically in the doorway, and the boys sat at attention, while Hanyi lounged on a cushion, looking bored and unhappy.

"We have all had a moment to gather ourselves," Cai Renxiang began as Ling Qi took a seat beside Gan Guangli. "We now come to the most important part of our mission. Attaining peaceful audience with these foreigners. It is likely they are already aware of our presence, which may bode well. We must decide how we are to approach our greeting. I believe it would be best for us to review our knowledge of the targets."

Ling Qi felt eyes on her and began to speak. "I have only had limited interactions, but the group I witnessed at least seemed disinterested in war. There was some mention of a large building project, a 'sky fortress'. The woman who attempted to speak with me seemed even tempered and perceptive. Even if our meeting seemed to unbalance her."

"My studies support similar conclusions to Miss Ling," Meng Dan said, pushing his glasses up. "While my information is naturally much out of date, it does not indicate a particularly insular culture. Records indicate that they were not, then at least a terribly expansive people. I believe that an emphasis on culture over the martial would be best."

Cai Renxiang nodded once. "That much is agreed, however, there is the matter of our opening posture, which I think must be discussed."

With a gesture opened the conversation. In the end, their deliberation came to decide…

[] To approach confidently, and speak first before making any mention of the gifts you have been provided
[] to approach humbly, with gifts at the forefront to make any opening talk go more smoothly.
 
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Yep. This heart demon is when we decided we wanted to carry our roots with us.

The fundamental contradiction of wanting to be free from all bonds, but still have the bonds of friendship and family.

We definitely should not try to get to cyan before we sort this out, or it will kill us.
 
I think we should go for boldness here as a gut instinct as well.

By being bold we lean in more on our right to be here in this special place, our right granted to us by the compact of iron and the compact of blood. Lean into that right, lean into some defining characteristics of their culture, and I think it will make our argument of cultural connections stronger.
 
[X] To approach confidently, and speak first before making any mention of the gifts you have been provided
 
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I'm inclined to agree--even beyond that though, in recent times their only real information about Imperials would come from the Cloud Tribes--and what we've seen from the snippets of them is that they believe Imperials are treacherous and weak, enduring only because of dishonorable tricks. Humility plays into that stereotype in a sense.

Boldness would be bad if it would be anyone but Ling Qi headlining this endeavour. Because fucking Peakaboos. Since we know it's Ling Qi, we're looking at confidence but not arrogance. The envoy of a neighbouring power seeking to establish some form of relations.

Culture is informed by the land, and this is a culture that lives and thrives in their way in one of the most barren and hostile realms in the world. That is not a culture that has time for bullshit--say what you god damn mean and don't dance around the subject.
 
"I don't think you can stop either though," Sixiang said sadly. "It'd break you. I believe you'll find a solution though. Just because you can't stop doesn't mean you have to sprint and leave everyone behind, you know?"

"I don't want to slow down either," Ling Qi replied. "I-I at least have to keep up with Renxiang."

She didn't care for the idea of the girl advancing alone. Not when she saw what the end of that path could be.

"Stubborn," Sixiang huffed. "You're gonna have to make a choice somewhere though."
~Love lifts us up where we belong~
~Where the eagles cry~
~On a mountain high~

Ling Qi's desire for power is motivated by fear ja?

At first it was motivated by the fear of being... powerless. Of being taken advantage of and swept aside.

Now she has a nobler fear. She fears losing her loved ones.

And power... makes one alone. Inherently by its very nature.

It seems like it would be simple to become the wind beneath anothers wings. Use our potency and arts to become a teacher, a guide, and a friend.

So that our power becomes something that helps our friends and loved ones.

That of course would require changing our core motivation however, and could easily lead to becoming a dreadful smotherer. Hm...
 
Yeah, I'm pretty assured that this was the best choice to make.
...Did it really all come back to power? She was still so very small and weak. Her path still stretched on, infinite and difficult. There was so much more distance left to run.

Yet there were so many things she had chosen to bind herself too.

"Ah, it's that fundamental huh," Sixiang grimaced.
"I can't stop Sixiang," Ling Qi murmured. "That ice spirit, that barbarian titan… even the duchess. There are so many people and things who can crush me. But I don't want to be alone again either."
...Ah, it all comes back to that 'Roots and Wings' vote, doesn't it? Damn.
 
Ling Qi clenched her fists fingers digging into the silk she sat on. That's what it came down too, when you stripped the other rationalizations away. Once again, she had hurt someone because she was afraid. Just like the dream of blood, just like in the streets. Her mannerisms had changed, but she hadn't. Even the problems with Zhengui, with Hanyi they came because she was afraid. Afraid to let them stand on their own.
Always kind of rankles when LQ reasoning for an action differs so much from what the reasoning of the voters. Bloody moon was similar too in that regard. In the future it'd be a good idea to try to map the reason why LQ herself might choose an option or another when it comes to these kind of choices, rather than focusing so much on the narrative of it or logical/pragmatic aspects.
 
Alright I went back to double check, and unless there was a third member of the White Sky Confederation Not!Elsa should be speaking for them in the coming talks as she was doing so through a CN, and we'll want to keep that in mind when making a decision here.
Ling Qi felt uncomfortable looking at her. The woman felt familiar despite her clear foreignness. She felt like a cold winters night, fierce and independent, like a more aggressive Zeqing. She was peak third realm. As she watched, the woman leaned in to whisper to the man.

"The White Sky confederation sees no value in treating with demons," the man said. Several of the warriors among the first group shot him disgusted looks. "If our brothers in the north are so desperate the Sky Palace Koliada will welcome them. More hands will only make work proceed faster."

Anyways my initial reaction is that being bold has Ling Qi behaving consistently with Not!Elsa's interaction with LQ claiming the Starstone, and making the CN come take it back, but there can easily be cultural nuances within Not!Elsa's offer of sanctuary that would make doing so a bad idea.

Alternatively doing so can be percieved as taking control of the negotiation flow, and that might run head first into Not!Elsa's personality traits gives in the quote above.
 
I was hoping we will get at least one advanced skill at this point. Oh well.
[] to approach humbly, with gifts at the forefront to make any opening talk go more smoothly.
Think we should start with presents to show that we aren't demanding anything from them. Grand construction project means major sink in resources, if we help them a little it could help with negotiations.
Also invitation was only for Ling Qi, others wasn't invited. Speaking first may make Ling Qi's position better, but at the same time weaken position of others, maybe even excluding them from negotiation and it seems like a wrong approach.
 
[] to approach humbly, with gifts at the forefront to make any opening talk go more smoothly.

During the discussions with the tribesmen and shishigui, I think I remember the delegate to have been less talky.

Also, I think our goals are not really anything concrete (aside from don't fight against us). So even opening discourse would do us good.
 
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"Maybe," Ling Qi sighed. She didn't think that was the real root either though.

...Did it really all come back to power? She was still so very small and weak. Her path still stretched on, infinite and difficult. There was so much more distance left to run.

Yet there were so many things she had chosen to bind herself too.

"Ah, it's that fundamental huh," Sixiang grimaced.
"I can't stop Sixiang," Ling Qi murmured. "That ice spirit, that barbarian titan… even the duchess. There are so many people and things who can crush me. But I don't want to be alone again either."

Cultivation was an exercise in isolation. To be powerful was to be lonely. Elder Ying had taught her that. With each step you took, more peers fell away. The longer you lived, the more of your family and friends would die off. She hated the idea of that. Having looked on the face of the Duchess, even in memory, she hated it even more. If she got the power she needed, would she become like that? Not the same of course, but something equally inhuman in a different way?

One day, would she do something so awful to a child who just wanted to meet their mother?

"For what it's worth, I can't see the path you're on doing that," Sixiang said quietly, resting their hand on her shoulder. "But… yeah, deciding to go all the way isn't without cost, you know?"

Ling Qi nodded silently.

"I don't think you can stop either though," Sixiang said sadly. "It'd break you. I believe you'll find a solution though. Just because you can't stop doesn't mean you have to sprint and leave everyone behind, you know?"

"I don't want to slow down either," Ling Qi replied. "I-I at least have to keep up with Renxiang."

She didn't care for the idea of the girl advancing alone. Not when she saw what the end of that path could be.

"Stubborn," Sixiang huffed. "You're gonna have to make a choice somewhere though."
I gotta ask: why?

She says that she "can't stop"... but why? Why is that the case?

"...Did it really all come back to power? She was still so very small and weak. Her path still stretched on, infinite and difficult. There was so much more distance left to run."

Why do you need to go further and further? Why does it all come back to power?

If you have enough power to achieve what you want, and achieve security, then... that's fine, isn't it. It's like money or riches in the real world; you get enough for security and happiness. But you don't make a religion out of pursuing it. You could reach for more and more wealth and/or prestige and/or whatever, but at that point, you're basically just keeping score.


But you've convinced yourself that you're always in danger of somebody rolling over in their sleep once and upending or demolishing all you've ever built. You see a world full of supremely strong people, and you fear that this means that you can never know enough security, and so you tell yourself that you need to reach further, reach higher, and never stop moving.

But I think the truth is, is that even if you ascend, that uncertainty and danger won't go away. Because even if you become a Top Dog somehow, you'll still have risks and dangers and challenges and problems anyway. Maybe you'll be more secure, but at the same time, you'll also have to play the game for eternity; because you'll be ageless and immortal. At least as a mortal, or even a cultivator, you'd be able to die of old age and pass on and be done with it all.

So, all in all...
"I don't think you can stop either though," Sixiang said sadly. "It'd break you. I believe you'll find a solution though. Just because you can't stop doesn't mean you have to sprint and leave everyone behind, you know?"
I'm not sure why "it'd break you." I mean, maybe it might now.

Because Ling Qi is a literal teenager and is still suffering from insecurities and issues galore.

But, like... How much has Ling Qi actually went back and re-examined the age old motivation for why she began this? That is, looked at Cultivation and her advancing forwards asked "Why?"

I think Cultivating because of a "from", as Rincewind would put it, is different from Cultivating because of a "to". Don't Cultivate out of fear, not forever, but do Cultivate towards a positive goal or for a positive reason.

And, frankly, know when enough is enough or when/where you need to/ought to stop, too. -_-
"I don't want to slow down either," Ling Qi replied. "I-I at least have to keep up with Renxiang."

She didn't care for the idea of the girl advancing alone. Not when she saw what the end of that path could be.
This, on the other hand, feels like a better reason to advance. Advance so that you can keep up with your friends and comrades; the people you've befriended and decided you want to stick around with.
 
Ok, so in terms of what's important here (apart from me being :smugface: about LQ trusting Renxiang's strength :p), I think a big takeaway is the importance of fear to Ling Qi:

Ling Qi clenched her fists fingers digging into the silk she sat on. That's what it came down too, when you stripped the other rationalizations away. Once again, she had hurt someone because she was afraid. Just like the dream of blood, just like in the streets. Her mannerisms had changed, but she hadn't. Even the problems with Zhengui, with Hanyi they came because she was afraid. Afraid to let them stand on their own.

"I don't think that's right," Sixiang said. "Yeah you decided to do something hurtful, you decided not to risk a smoother but more dangerous path, but there was more to it than fear, wasn't there?"

"If that had been anyone but Renxiang, they'd have broken," Ling Qi said. Even the echoes of that memory she had experienced indirectly made her stomach churn.

This is a big deal to her. Decisions made out of fear go back to her original sin, and she really doesn't like them because they make her feel weak. And weakness is failure - it's everything she's trying to avoid. Now, one idea that springs to mind is that we could, perhaps, point to this as something she uses to differentiate #FVM approved suffering - tribulations aren't taken on out of fear, they're suffering deliberately endured for to attain greater strength. They're an expression of strength rather than weakness. Hurting a friend is then something she sees as a major personal sin as a result of such weakness.

That being said, again, she doesn't seem to have gone back to her original decision to run away from home here, which was absolutely a fear-driven decision that she claims she believes was absolutely justified and correct despite the pain it caused to her and her mother. Yet she doesn't bring it up here despite its clear parallels.
 
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