uh ...ling qi...you not gonna wait for back up?
is this what you call an idiot ball should the luck dice roll badly?
is this what you call an idiot ball should the luck dice roll badly?
Looking through a bunch of posts from Forge, there's a lot of talk of "commoners" cultivating (and generally paying for that privilege with military service). That said Qingge was from a family that was associated with a larger cultivator family, and as such would be on the lower ends of resources. I mean just to note, Qingge compares her daughter to the He clan head (her great uncle), and her Late Yellow daughter comes out on top in that comparison. This suggests that the He don't have the resources or connections to acquire yellow spirit stones in any significant quantity to allow them to continue cultivating, and with the note that the Liu was as far above the He as the Duchess is above the Liu, reinforce the idea that the He are a family of common cultivators with connections to a family with significantly more resources if not the baronial family of Tonghou, and thus even if every member of the family was talent 3-5 the He simply can't afford to have more than a few cultivators.Is there a direct WOG saying that? There were several things hinting against that, such as Ling Qingge stating that a few of her original clan(who were servants to some noble) were cultivators, but most couldn't cultivate
Looking through a bunch of posts from Forge, there's a lot of talk of "commoners" cultivating (and generally paying for that privilege with military service). That said Qingge was from a family that was associated with a larger cultivator family, and as such would be on the lower ends of resources. I mean just to note, Qingge compares her daughter to the He clan head (her great uncle), and her Late Yellow daughter comes out on top in that comparison. This suggests that the He don't have the resources or connections to acquire yellow spirit stones in any significant quantity to allow them to continue cultivating, and with the note that the Liu was as far above the He as the Duchess is above the Liu, reinforce the idea that the He are a family of common cultivators with connections to a family with significantly more resources if not the baronial family of Tonghou, and thus even if every member of the family was talent 3-5 the He simply can't afford to have more than a few cultivators.
The basic economics of the empire with regards to spirit stones makes it outright impossible for everyone to cultivate, there's just not enough supply for that kind of demand.
The majority of the celestial empire populace has a Talent of 1 and is therefore unable to cultivate at all. Most of the lowest tiers of cultivation is filled with commoners.
This is a bit of a quibble, but we really only know that there are enough modestly talented commoners to form armies. A world where all commoners can cultivate a little bit and only like one in four commoners can cultivate even a little bit are mostly indistinguishable from what we've seen so far.If most commoners were unable to cultivate, armies would be impossible. Common soldiers (and retired soldiers filling positions like guardsmen) are all reds, because mass combat in this setting is predicated on buff chain arts. Mundane soldiers are a waste of space.
Cultivation is not a noble bloodline thing. Established noble clans are able to breed for minimum talent, such that everyone is, I dunno, at least talent 3.5, but talent 2 commoners are a dime a dozen. Here's a quote which references the large quantities of low-talent commoners:
As to stones and their use as currency, you guys have the gist of it, green stones are the highest that are in regular circulation in enough quantity to be used as coin. YYou might see cyan stones changing hands in truly major transactions, like the sale of a major cultivator manor or castle, or the works of acknowledged grandmaster craftsmen but not much beyond that and only among really wealthy families. Stones above and beyond that are rare resources indeed, and one of the major cornerstones of imperial power is the small trickle of violet stones they can feed to people in their favor, and of course to favored members of the imperial household.
This line... too raw..."Probability of the subject being a 'jerk' even before deterioration approaches eighty five percent," Yinhui agreed, flipping a page.
The excitement hadn't lasted long though the slips held a collection of first and second realm utility and cultivation arts, all related to painting and calligraphy. Only one had any combat application at all, but it was far beneath her. She took them anyway. Who knew, perhaps one day Biyu would discover a liking for that kind of thing, or maybe her mother? Qingge's writing was quite good for a mortal.
"Aw don't be like that. You know you want to go treasure hunting with me," Sixiang replied, stepping up to bump a shoulder against hers. "Now c'mon let's find Meng boy and my cute lil cousin."
Ling Qi rolled her eyes fondly as she followed Sixiang out through the stacks.
"I'd have been a bit embarrassed if you fell for a fake after experiencing the real thing," Sixiang drawled, resting an arm on her shoulder. "Not a bad rendition though."
Minor nitpick, but the Liu are a Viscount family. An entire city like Tonghou is apparently a bit too important to leave in the care of a mere Baron.Looking through a bunch of posts from Forge, there's a lot of talk of "commoners" cultivating (and generally paying for that privilege with military service). That said Qingge was from a family that was associated with a larger cultivator family, and as such would be on the lower ends of resources. I mean just to note, Qingge compares her daughter to the He clan head (her great uncle), and her Late Yellow daughter comes out on top in that comparison. This suggests that the He don't have the resources or connections to acquire yellow spirit stones in any significant quantity to allow them to continue cultivating, and with the note that the Liu was as far above the He as the Duchess is above the Liu, reinforce the idea that the He are a family of common cultivators with connections to a family with significantly more resources if not the baronial family of Tonghou, and thus even if every member of the family was talent 3-5 the He simply can't afford to have more than a few cultivators.
The basic economics of the empire with regards to spirit stones makes it outright impossible for everyone to cultivate, there's just not enough supply for that kind of demand.
Pretty sure the "she" here should be a they.Sixiang had found a few books she insisted were interesting but Ling Qi really wasn't a fan of fiction, even if the watercolor illumination was lovely.
most commoners would be able to if they had the resources. But it just isn't economical to provide everyone with red stones.
Regarding the number of people in the Empire who could cultivate to some degree if only they had the resources, Yrs is very much wary of giving any hard numbers, buuuutSource? I am pretty sure we never got confirmation that they are fully unable to cultivate, just effectively?
So definitely not the majority (for now at least) but a nonetheless significant chunk of the mortal populous could cultivate to at least red if given the resourcesDiscord said:YrsillarToday at 7:28 PM
the majority of mortals are unable to cultivate as things are
though there are a large number who could theoretically get to first realm if they had the resources
YrsillarToday at 7:34 PM
eh I don't want to get into exact numbers
more than a quarter, less than half
subject to adjustment if the story requires it
Ling Qi cultivates the Hidden Moon.uh ...ling qi...you not gonna wait for back up?
is this what you call an idiot ball should the luck dice roll badly?
Minor correction: Ling Qi was Early Green, not Late Yellow. She was only able to import her mom after she became a noble.Looking through a bunch of posts from Forge, there's a lot of talk of "commoners" cultivating (and generally paying for that privilege with military service). That said Qingge was from a family that was associated with a larger cultivator family, and as such would be on the lower ends of resources. I mean just to note, Qingge compares her daughter to the He clan head (her great uncle), and her Late Yellow daughter comes out on top in that comparison. This suggests that the He don't have the resources or connections to acquire yellow spirit stones in any significant quantity to allow them to continue cultivating, and with the note that the Liu was as far above the He as the Duchess is above the Liu, reinforce the idea that the He are a family of common cultivators with connections to a family with significantly more resources if not the baronial family of Tonghou, and thus even if every member of the family was talent 3-5 the He simply can't afford to have more than a few cultivators.
The basic economics of the empire with regards to spirit stones makes it outright impossible for everyone to cultivate, there's just not enough supply for that kind of demand.
There seems to be a lot of questions here. Most of our kit doesn't really deal with illusions, so much as creating real things. The things we create physical effect people.Hmm since most of style does mist and illusions could they be portered over into weaving illuison for performance and stories, so instead of being idiot cultivator who only uses arts for combat we turn then into entertainment, playing in court of Cai Shenrui may be great but putting on performance for greater spirits and many auidence seems alot grander, hmm modernizing art usage for greater productive seems nice I wonder if theirs any farming arts we could teach villages under us or crafting arts.
In the far future, where Meizhen possibly leads the Bai, we might play for her. Don't know if it counts as greater thing thoughPlaying in Cai Shehua's court is likely the biggest thing we will ever do, unless we somehow score the empress as an audience. Cai Shehua is white, there are no spirits bigger than her, at least in the Emerald Seas. If you are talking about playing for Great Spirits, then I don't think that will ever happen. They can't interact with the world after all. As for playing for many audiences, we do that already. We hold monthly concerts for CRX, and someday Ling Qi will do concerts like Hanyi, where people travel to hear her.
Fair enough, it doesn't really change my point any since the idea was to use the He as microcosm of the economic issues the prevent literally everyone from cultivating by starting from the position that a clan patriarch like the He would be it's strongest member and the one most supported by the economy of the rest of the family, and that progression to green 1 is more a matter of time and resources than it is talent, as the penalties for failing a breakthrough are minor, and the biggest loss is the potential lost ground because of that failure. Based on the requirements to reach green 1, it should take someone who's properly funded with red and yellow stones roughly the same amount of time to go from being a fresh yellow to a fresh green as it did for them to go from a mortal to a fresh yellow.Minor correction: Ling Qi was Early Green, not Late Yellow. She was only able to import her mom after she became a noble.
Having Ling Qi play at a Bai gathering is essentially certain if Meizhen actually sticks around in the Emerald Seas long term as a secondary Bai envoy to the Cai, since she'll need a place to live, as well as spend time building more connections with the Bai as a group which is essentially the purpose of these kinds of noble parties Renxiang has been regularly throwing.In the far future, where Meizhen possibly leads the Bai, we might play for her. Don't know if it counts as greater thing though
Also, it might be our greatest performance, but it won't be the greatest thing we will do, not if this quest gets to higher tier of cultivation. Heck, LQ might get to white herself with enough time.
that progression to green 1 is more a matter of time and resources than it is talent, as the penalties for failing a breakthrough are minor
Yes, but as long as they hold to a decent schedule to account for that, that's not a big deal compared to actual injury or death that failing a later breakthrough can cause. Hitting Yellow extends one's lifespan enough that as long as they weren't in the twilight years of their life when they hit yellow, green is fully achievable, again assuming sufficient resources.Penalties for failing a breakthrough are described as excruciating pain. Not everyone has the mental fortitude to keep trying doing something very hard and time consuming when their failure results in a torture session as their own body tries to tear itself apart.