There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

Next update we begin with the Avengers. I'm still debating if we should have a Discussion Update, or going for selecting Directors.

Heck, perhaps we can combine both
 
He…he actually dared to do it…he actually killed Hal Jordan at the beginning of the movie!!!

And it works!!
Mother. Fucker. Oh, it's on.

We need to bring our A-game from now on. Whatsoever we bring next, we must make Kevin be so surprised that his inner monologue must start having at least three exclamation points, to one up him making us think in two. Nothing else will do.
 
To be fair so far it seems outside of the Nolan Trilogy, Marvel is beating DC in here still for quality performance in terms of profits of movies and may very well still be beating DC's attempt at a cinematic universe given nothing has explicitly tied together Batman - Green Arrow and Green Lantern in terms of the commentary on the movie though it's certainly hinted at trying to be a cinematic universe given GL has Martian Manhunter present.
 
Goddammit DC, stop succeeding so much!

I know competition is good and all but come on! We still haven't gotten past the billion mark and their no doubt rubbing it in our faces!

Ok we have to make Avengers get past the billion mark and past Green Lantern's box office.

Still makes you wonder how Kevin is following our progress and thinking about how we are handling things.
 
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They had Andrew Garfield as Kyle Raynor? Nice.
Sucks that we got beat to the one billion profit mark first.

Though Andrew Garfield does make me wonder what plans Sony has for Spider-Man and if The Amazing Spider-Man is going to be a thing or if this is a universe where Spider-Man 4 is still happening.
 
I am somewhat happy DC is succeeded so well, competition breeds progress and there's definitely room for DC and Marvel on the screen! This'll definitely help us convince executives to commit more resources.
 
To be fair so far it seems outside of the Nolan Trilogy, Marvel is beating DC in here still for quality performance in terms of profits of movies and may very well still be beating DC's attempt at a cinematic universe given nothing has explicitly tied together Batman - Green Arrow and Green Lantern in terms of the commentary on the movie though it's certainly hinted at trying to be a cinematic universe given GL has Martian Manhunter present.
Kevin understands that if Marvel's strength is its connected Universe, then DC's is its franchises near independence of each other. Every story told in the new DCEU is taylor made so that if necessary they can be tied up together, and if not they can just abandon it and say it's not part of the Main Continuity.

He may not be a comics fan, but he understands the source material and how to use it. That's what makes it so effective.

As for Nolan...well its been long enough now.

Kevin was in talks with Nolan to use the Dark Knight trilogy as part of the new DCEU, or at least reference it in some way. He came really close to succeeding as well, almost a hairsbreadth, but in the end Nolan said no.

Kevin still managed to et Goyer and to use the League of Assassins for his next film. And from there we got Green Arrow, who will have to take the role Batman would have in the Justice League.
 
Hey, I mean at least we're still doing better on average. Captain America might've been the first to break the 1 billion mark had it not been… well, Captain America.

That, despite the character and movie essentially amounting to 'America, fuck yeah!', the movie still managed to match Green Arrow's total profit with just it's international sales says a lot.
 
Really? They're just going to cut Batman out of the Justice League entirely? Or are they just going to wait until enough time has passed from Nolan's trilogy to finally insert him into the DCEU?

Since it's 2011 Nolan hasn't yet released The Dark Knight Rises.
 
Really? They're just going to cut Batman out of the Justice League entirely? Or are they just going to wait until enough time has passed from Nolan's trilogy to finally insert him into the DCEU?

Since it's 2011 Nolan hasn't yet released The Dark Knight Rises.
More like try to wait some time before introducing him since most viewers will have Nolan's Batman still in their minds.

He already got away with it when doing a Superman reboot just 3 years after Superman Returns. DC is pressing Kevin to do the same with Batman (It's like printing money in their eyes) but Kevin so far prefers to use Green Arrow.

They are getting insistent though.
 
More like try to wait some time before introducing him since most viewers will have Nolan's Batman still in their minds.

He already got away with it when doing a Superman reboot just 3 years after Superman Returns. DC is pressing Kevin to do the same with Batman (It's like printing money in their eyes) but Kevin so far prefers to use Green Arrow.

They are getting insistent though.
Being fair, Batman is friggin Batman! Green Arrow is neat but the dark knight is just in a completely different league. They'd be insane not to push for more batcash!
 

Boo! Now we can't use him! Pity, I really like his acting.

First Constantine and now this?!

I actually liked the Constantine film. It might help that I'm not an expert on Constantine, so while I know that it's supposed to be a bad adaptation, I can enjoy it standalone. A mediocre film with some neat moments. Of course, the Producer being a big comics nerd wouldn't feel that way.

Mads Mikkelsen, Don Cheadle, Peter Dinklage, Andrew Garfield, Vanessa Hudgens and Jennifer Lawrence.

Oof, that's one hell of a cast. And more actors locked to us. Not too surprising it did well.


Can we still have him play Cage, the way Reynolds still got to play Deadpool? He's pretty suited visually.

More like try to wait some time before introducing him since most viewers will have Nolan's Batman still in their minds.

I can see them going for a more local approach to Batman, letting Green Arrow take over more of his Justice League role and letting Batman finally stay in Gotham most of the time.
 
Along with picking the director, we should probably discuss who'd be involved in the Avengers movie before we start casting.
Ronan should definitely be a villain alongside Loki. As was discussed for a little bit. We can definitely do better than he was in GoTG, James Gunn makes great stuff but that was a lame version of the character. Way too 2D.

Ronan is pretty much Kree judge Dredd running a group of similar law psychos.
 
Ronan should definitely be a villain alongside Loki. As was discussed for a little bit. We can definitely do better than he was in GoTG, James Gunn makes great stuff but that was a lame version of the character. Way too 2D.

Ronan is pretty much Kree judge Dredd running a group of similar law psychos.
That Judge Dredd style law psychos would really tie together well thematically with the idea for Ronan's Hexus backup plan. Dystopian themes coming out to play. Plus it allows Luchino Nefaria to remember his grandfather's anti-fascist views and connect the Kree to HYDRA in his mind.

And I think the Hexus idea could be a plot point in either Iron Man 2 or Wonder Man 2 as a mid-phase event movie. I see Hexus purchasing AIM as a great way to tie in Tony Stark into a grudge match against them while also being a great way to introduce MODOK.

Alternatively, them hiring Wonder Man as a spokesperson with the goal of brainwashing him and having him sell his family's company and secrets to them could be an interesting plot for Wonder Man. Perhaps Eric Williams uses his newfound Maggia connections and technology to mount a rescue of his brother, and helps destroy the Hexus corporation. Could be a good reinforcement of his connection to his brother and his respect for family which is big for not only his character but the Maggia organization as a whole.

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Considering Wonder Man hasn't had as much love in the comics as Iron Man, giving his sequel the Hexus plot could be a great way to make sure his sequel gets a meatier plot than it otherwise would have, but would probably mean a smaller "crossover factor" than Iron Man to make sure the budget doesn't go too high. Depends if Favreau sees Hexus as a good IM3 plot or not.

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If they agree to making it IM3 and we do go big on making it an event movie (like Civil War technically being a Captain America movie), we could just incorporate the story ideas for Wonder Man becoming the spokesperson and all into the movie as well and almost becoming brainwashed as part of the crossover.
 
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Though this is a little much, I think Ronan should be a force of nature. Someone that could face any of the strongest Avengers like Hulk or Thor 1v1 and maybe come out victorious. He's a champion from a race of beings that on average are much stronger than humans. A galaxy spanning empire. Someone like that should be a big deal. The name 'RONAN THE ACCUSER' should be feared throughout civilized space. Maybe Thor can be familiar with him and be like 'this dude is bad news.'

Have a scene like the final fight of Avatar where his friggin ship is getting blown out of the sky so he just calmly friggin' JUMPS OFF and craters the ground where he lands.
 
Though this is a little much, I think Ronan should be a force of nature. Someone that could face any of the strongest Avengers like Hulk or Thor 1v1 and maybe come out victorious. He's a champion from a race of beings that on average are much stronger than humans. A galaxy spanning empire. Someone like that should be a big deal. The name 'RONAN THE ACCUSER' should be feared throughout civilized space. Maybe Thor can be familiar with him and be like 'this dude is bad news.'

Have a scene like the final fight of Avatar where his friggin ship is getting blown out of the sky so he just calmly friggin' JUMPS OFF and craters the ground where he lands.
Yeah, i dont like the idea of Ronan been able to head to head with Thor or the Hulk in a fight and have good odds of winning. From what i can tell hes a big names galaxy wise, but hes not on their level.
 
Yeah, i dont like the idea of Ronan been able to head to head with Thor or the Hulk in a fight and have good odds of winning. From what i can tell hes a big names galaxy wise, but hes not on their level.
I can see Ronan beating Hulk because Hulk is very green in terms of fighting experience. I'm sorry, please don't shoot me Thor on the other hand, being a full on divine being and having engaged in many, many battles. Would be above Ronan in terms of strength.
 
My thoughts for Hexus's origin is perhaps the Kree found it somewhere in space, subdued it with the power of the Mind stone, and have converted it into an asset to extract resources from planets to support the Kree war effort.

Potentially, if they discover MODOK (or are part of why MODOK gets created) potentially MODOK could use technology to 'undo' the Kree domination of the parasite and have it become loyal to him instead, could be interesting way to up his threat level and turn him into a potential galactic threat if the parasite isn't defeated and spreads in MODOK's name.

Yeah, i dont like the idea of Ronan been able to head to head with Thor or the Hulk in a fight and have good odds of winning. From what i can tell hes a big names galaxy wise, but hes not on their level.
What do you mean by "good odds of winning"

Like if he had 50/50 odds for a direct 1v1 against Thor that seems like "okay odds" not good odds. But he isn't alone, he has Kree special ops with him.

Against the Hulk he probably has ways to avoid a direct 1v1 fight, perhaps distracting or manipulating Hulk somehow.

Then Wonder Man is the next most difficult person for him to fight but he should wipe the floor with Simon due to his technology, experience, and discipline.
 
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