There Was A Different Idea: An MCU Producer Quest

Deadpool is meta enough and yes i still want Ryan as Deadpool.

You've sold me in a way I don't think is intended. A Deadpool/Wonder Man crossover movie where they're both Ryan Reynolds. Easier to shoot, because Deadpool always wears his suit, but it would be absolutely hilarious.

Like that commercial Ryan did where he played himself and his disgruntled twin brother (that doesn't really exist).
 
You've sold me in a way I don't think is intended. A Deadpool/Wonder Man crossover movie where they're both Ryan Reynolds. Easier to shoot, because Deadpool always wears his suit, but it would be absolutely hilarious.

Like that commercial Ryan did where he played himself and his disgruntled twin brother (that doesn't really exist).
Well, i mean. The thought had crossed my mind to have Wonder Man and Deadpool on-screen together.
 
Deadpool is owned by Fox anyways. The chance of us being able to buy is very slim.

You've sold me in a way I don't think is intended. A Deadpool/Wonder Man crossover movie where they're both Ryan Reynolds. Easier to shoot, because Deadpool always wears his suit, but it would be absolutely hilarious.

Like that commercial Ryan did where he played himself and his disgruntled twin brother (that doesn't really exist).

The funny thing is, Wonder Man being an actor would mean he could actually play off Deadpool breaking the 4th wall pretty well, because he knows about the concept from his work.
 
Maybe we could cut a deal, like Sony and Disney did IRL with Spiderman?
I now want to cut a deal where all that's done is that Wonder Man is cast in a film in the MCU about a mutant who can heal from anything - while in the Fox film the credits temporarily list Deadpool's actor as Simon Williams (before correcting themselves to Ryan Reynolds)
 
I now want to cut a deal where all that's done is that Wonder Man is cast in a film in the MCU about a mutant who can heal from anything - while in the Fox film the credits temporarily list Deadpool's actor as Simon Williams (before correcting themselves to Ryan Reynolds)
Then have the reality stone accidentally bring the character to life in the MCU.

"Wow, guess that magic rock is more powerful than corporate lawyers!"

It would be a double layer of hilarious if people in-universe (Simon, Nick Fury, etc.) think him thinking the MCU is a movie series is because he was originally a character in a movie series in their universe.

Edit: The best way to do this would probably have Wonder Man 2/3 begin with the ending scenes of the in-universe Deadpool movie he's casted in because of his new fame presented as actual events happening, then cut back to show it's just a movie within the movie.

Edit 2: Actually, this might be able to work in a Thor movie as well. Perhaps it's the convergence, and Thor/Jane uses Asgardian magic / a ritual / science on Simon to find the reality stone because of him being exposed to the power stone, so they can kind of use him as a radar. This scene could be a quick way to establish Wonder Man to audiences watching Thor.
 
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Deadpool is owned by Fox anyways. The chance of us being able to buy is very slim.

I don't get why people keep saying this, Deadpool ought to be one of the easiest properties for us to get back. Fox only ever used him in X-men Origins and they were lambasted for it, because they turned him into a personality-less meat golem with sword-claws.

It also wasn't a very valuable IP to begin with, unlike Hulk or X-men. Now, if we were trying to get back the entirety of the X-men? Yikes.
 
I don't get why people keep saying this, Deadpool ought to be one of the easiest properties for us to get back. Fox only ever used him in X-men Origins and they were lambasted for it, because they turned him into a personality-less meat golem with sword-claws.

It also wasn't a very valuable IP to begin with, unlike Hulk or X-men. Now, if we were trying to get back the entirety of the X-men? Yikes.
I will freely admit i really dont care about the rights for everything else Fox has, i just really want Deadpool. The first film was made with a budget of 58 million and earned 782.6 million. We can surely do a better one.
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Wait, what? Which vote was that?

You'd have to go back to it, but it was the Plan Crimson vote. The avengers that plan aimed us towards were Wonder Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, and Hawkeye.

As I mentioned, it discards the Hulk because there was too much executive meddling and people were unhappy with the result.
 
You'd have to go back to it, but it was the Plan Crimson vote. The avengers that plan aimed us towards were Wonder Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron Man, and Hawkeye.

As I mentioned, it discards the Hulk because there was too much executive meddling and people were unhappy with the result.
Just because we don't have a Hulk sequel in phase 1 doesn't mean the Hulk won't be in the Avengers movie though.
 
I just want to know why suddenly there was a backtrack with Wonder Man. I like it because it's something new in the MCU, it is not the classic Avengers we know, I like the shake-up in actors and characters we see in the Phases, can't wait to see what else happens!
 
Just because we don't have a Hulk sequel in phase 1 doesn't mean the Hulk won't be in the Avengers movie though.

There are multiple Avengers movies, but yes… it does mean that Hulk won't be in the first Avengers movie (assuming things are still going according to the plan). Phase One for marvel includes and ends with the first Avengers movie, where the group is first established.

More avengers could be added for the later avengers movies.


Unless you're suggesting we throw him in anyways despite the original plan? It'd likely raise the cost of the movie though.
 
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I just want to know why suddenly there was a backtrack with Wonder Man. I like it because it's something new in the MCU, it is not the classic Avengers we know, I like the shake-up in actors and characters we see in the Phases, can't wait to see what else happens!
People just panicking and being scared because we got average luck instead of amazing luck this time, and blaming it on an externality of the movie being about Wonder Man.

But remember, we got amazing luck with the script. Even better than Iron Man 2. If we can get the villain presence rolls to a passable level to make the script work, we can still have an amazing movie.

There are multiple Avengers movies, but yes… it does mean that Hulk won't be in the first Avengers movie (assuming things are still going according to the plan). Phase One for marvel includes and ends with the first Avengers movie, where the group is first established.

More avengers could be added for the later avengers movies.
Whatever you're on, I want some.
 
Whatever you're on, I want some.

Well, if you're going to be like that.. how about you just read the exact excerpt from the story I am talking about.

Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, and one other. That is the roster you have decided so far to become the Avengers in the future. The lure of Hulk had been great, no less than James Wan; the Director who'd recently signed on had come to you and pleaded for the chance to direct the story for Hulk as he saw the great potential for horror in him.

In the end you had to refuse. For as great as the draw from Hulk had been, there had been another that had been just as great, if not even greater.

Wonder Man, originally an enemy of the Avengers who first appeared in Avengers #9 in August 1964, he would redeem himself by fighting at their side; he had since been on and off the main consciousness. Ranging from an Avenger, CEO of Williams Innovations, an Actor, Leader of the West Coast Avengers, and with an incredible array of powers, you sometimes wonder (Heh!) how did he not become a regular at Marvel.

Word for word, exactly what the story says. That is the Avengers lineup we chose. We can change this if we want, but as I mentioned it would be a change.

So drop the snark.
 
Well, if you're going to be like that.. how about you just read the exact excerpt from the story I am talking about.



Word for word, exactly what the story says. That is the Avengers lineup we chose. We can change this if we want, but as I mentioned it would be a change.

So drop the snark.
By treating that excerpt as absolute Mockingbird also wouldn't appear in Avengers.
 
By treating that excerpt as absolute Mockingbird also wouldn't appear in Avengers.

Not necessarily true at all. Nick Fury wasn't an Avenger for the movie, but he appeared in the first Avengers movie. It's still a movie, side-cast and supporting characters still exist. In the same way that there was a whole storyline about Black Widow and Hawkeye becoming true Avengers instead of agents of SHIELD who are just tagging along.

Heck, Hawkeye was even an antagonist for the first half of the movie… and sort of grew to avenge himself.

Now, both Mockingbird and the Hulk could be added on as members, but I sort of doubt splitting a movie between that many protagonists with our current budget is a good move. All the movies focused around a small group (with the major exception of the larger battles) for a reason. It's expensive.

Edit: Just to be clear, I specifically mean as main characters within the Avengers movie. Each of the Avengers in the movie had their own storyline going on, and a lot of the movie was devoted to that. Captain America having an ideological confrontation with Loki and Stark, Thor having his brother turn evil and try to destroy the world (on top of stolen Asgardian stuff because of the Cube), Ironman having a confrontation with Cap and ultimately proving him wrong by choosing to 'sacrifice' himself to stop the nuke.

So on and so forth, all the major characters get major plot points and themes. And they hold a central role within the movie.
 
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People just panicking and being scared because we got average luck instead of amazing luck this time, and blaming it on an externality of the movie being about Wonder Man.

But remember, we got amazing luck with the script. Even better than Iron Man 2. If we can get the villain presence rolls to a passable level to make the script work, we can still have an amazing movie.

All I want and need is for Wonder Man or Hawkeye to break 900mil or even 500mil, because if they do, wooh boy. It will be amazing, but I guess omakes, and a lot plays into that. Although omakes of Comic Cons could play into, the fandom buzz surrounding Wonder Man could definitely be something to play with. It all depends and the quality, as well as adjusting it to our favorite Wonder.
 
Now, both Mockingbird and the Hulk could be added on as members, but I sort of doubt splitting a movie between that many protagonists with our current budget is a good move.
From what I remember, when the vote for Mockingbird came up, it was made very clear that Mockingbird would join the Avengers as its female Avenger if she joined Iron Man 2.
On the one hand, you had been wondering on how to include a female member for the Avengers, and this would bring you the perfect chance to do so. That it would fit right in with the character's return and current popularity was a bonus.
Yeah, here it clearly says that Mockingbird is going to be part of the Avengers.
 
Yeah, here it clearly says that Mockingbird is going to be part of the Avengers.

I remember that bit, I've just been unsure whether we were waiting to give her her own intro or just planning to throw her into the deep end. It was kind of the curse of Hawkeye and Black Widow that they didn't really get much attention during the Avenger movies, due to that same issue.

I'd like her to be a full Avenger regardless, the only question in my mind is Phase One or Phase Two. I'd really like to get her a proper intro before whatever our equivalent of Ultron is though.
 
I'd like her to be a full Avenger regardless, the only question in my mind is Phase One or Phase Two. I'd really like to get her a proper intro before whatever our equivalent of Ultron is though.
For sure, it was a shame that the MCU decided to do a intro movie for Black Widow only after she, you know, died.
 
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