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So, I've decided that I've made a mess of things, but I still want to play...
So, I've decided that I've made a mess of things, but I still want to play...
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Huh. Never played MW3, only MW2, so that explains that.VhenRa said:
NCIS is integrated, but not in any significant manner. We *might* see a few characters after Shanxi, but at this point everyone's basically moved on... or died.NeoSeether said:Just to get things out of the way, the fictional references that I caught:
1. Tom Clancy's The Sum of All Fears, Debt of Honor, Executive Orders, and The Bear and the Dragon
2. Stargate: SG-1 in general, Stargate: Atlantis' - Enemy at the Gates
3. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II's entire plotline
4. Mass Effect pre-game(s) plot setup, fused with Stargate in general
I'm surprised you didn't try to shoehorn in NCIS in the process, given that other story of yours.
I actually altered her backstory so she can appear in a story not set a hundred years later, along with several other characters, but she's still a nobody in 2020. Fixed.NeoSeether said:More seriously, on the Sheppard/Shepard/Shepherd references? Tone them down, or be a lot more era-specific.
(On that note: don't mention a not-even-born-yet Cmdr. John/Jane/???? Shepard in an article written in 2020).
Modern Warfare 3 follows on from the second game so closely that it feels like Modern Warfare 2.5.VhenRa said:
The SGC stomps the turians as expected, ie in space. They're in for a big surprise on the ground, for various reasons.Night_stalker said:Well, first off, congrats on not giving the SGC the usual Asgard tech, only the knocked off version. It's going to alter things, and I'm anxious to see how the Turians get depicted. Too many people do the Cliche FCW is a Turian stomp, so I'm holding off on judging it fully until we get more then just a skirmish...
Again, the turians are in for a surprise...Stormhammer said:The Turians deserve to get their ego's stomped. Even without the Asgard plasma weapons, a sizeable, developed Tau'ri fleet should decimate Turian ships, even if they only have early energy based weapons and railguns. Turians are outclassed.
I like crossover juice, it's tasty when mixed with Perrier. I realize I started in the middle. My plan is and always was to start here and tell another story, a prequel if you will, via a separate stream if you will: articles, speeches, flashbacks.Sith said:If this is the first chapter, the pacing is way too fast, you have dull characters thus far and you're drowning your universe in Crossover Juice. Mega crossovers tend not to turn out that well...at all, just look at the few on this site, those are slapped together wank fests that are pathetic in terms of story telling and plot, lets hope this one doesn't follow the same path.
Think about it a bit more. I may have accidentally mixed up another franchise, but I seem to remember that in Stargate, whenever a ship is physically bumped or hit with a weapon with a limited kinetic component, there's a lot of shaking and some exploding consoles. I interpreted this as a significant bleedthrough of kinetic force that they can't compensate for. Kinetic weapons still aren't going to punch through- it's more like a depth charging effect. I didn't know Trinium was 1000 times stronger than titanium. Going off general observations, I assumed it was significantly stronger, between two and ten times. Because "stronger" is a rather un-specific term, and a thousand times sounds like a writer throwing around bit numbers without knowing their meaning, I'm going to stick with significantly stronger.Spartan303 said:Short range engagements? Probably true, so I can accept that. Stargate sheilds vulnerable to Kinetics? Lol! Laughable, totally offbase and utterly wrong. Stargate ships lightly armed? You DO know they're made primarily of Trinium right? A material that is 1000 times stronger than Titanium.
There is so much I find wrong with this story....
Like many other fanfiction authors, I'm going to conveniently ignore that. Actually, they do have transporters, but they don't have the hover-and-sweep function that the Asgard motherships had. They could beam out the turians, but it would take weeks, provided they didn't deploy some kind of countermeasure or hide in some way.Lancealot said:They don't need ground forces they need one ship with it's transporters set to 'fuck off and go away mode'. Any Turian on the planet when their is still a earth ship around is dead before he takes three steps it's just that simple.
Yeah, I know. In retrospect, I should have left the Hastings intact and only wrecked the Kyoto. The Kyoto was only destroyed because the dumbass commander decided to charge in so he could use his beam weapons. It worked, destroyed a few cruisers, but then the Kyoto was raped by disruptor torpedoes.ShadowCub said:Ummmm, the earth ships were destroyed that quickly, WTF?!?!??!?!??
It's not giving away your freedom, it's becoming part of a greater alliance.ShadowCub said:This isn't some we give away our freedom to aliens like the original systems alliance is it?
Client race != slave race.ShadowCub said:The Turians are slaves under a less harsh name, so is the rest of the ME council, which is why I never got why in all three ME's humans cannot wait to be part of something that keeps them from advancing, and seem to be happy about it.
Client race= slave race.
Pretty much that.Stormhammer said:You got a funny definition of slave race. The Turians aren't clients. They're council. They sit on the damn council making policy, just like the Asari and Salarians. How can they be slaves when they're the masters in the citadel house? Hanar and other races, sure.
I didn't intend to wank the turians that much, it kind of just happened. The US tried not giving their spaceships to their 'enemies', it ended in World War Three. That will, of course, be explored more later.ShadowCub said:So stargate isn't stomptastic but everyone else is, reverse wank? I always hate reverse wank where its right for them but not for us. VVVVVVery interesting story, though the U.S. giving spaceships to their enemies was stupid as hell of them.
That's actually a lot more like what I intended to portray the Systems Alliance as.Stormhammer said:Anyways, I just don't see a Terran... No, Western Civilization dominated and led Systems Alliance oppressing and occupying worlds, especially allied peoples. I can see such a Systems Alliance dominating that council politically, with representatives from the US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, Australia, Canada, ect. while other worlds only one representative each, or in the case of Langara, three reps for Kelowna, Tirania and Andaria. But I don't see them shortchanging and exploiting member states. I can see problems with peacekeeping forces and police missions on Bedrosia and other such conflict worlds but you're not painting a very stable picture of this Systems Alliance..
Warp drive is FTL, but it's not through realspace. I'm not sure how exactly these systems work or if there's even a consistent, logical explanation, but I have a tentative plan for how they work inpedmore1202 said:in the first contact with the Turian's segment, and yet in the timeline segment, you've said that they've met 3 races that use Warp Drive, an FTL technology that travels through normal space, so they would have already known about the possibility of that technology, and thus why would Caldwell jump to the conclusion that its the same tech as the device, wouldn't he assume it's warp drive?
The fate of the Asgard is deliberately left undetermined.pedmore1202 said:I'm sorry, but WTF??????
Also, you've stated that there is no Ori, but does that mean that there is no Asgard Legacy? My understanding was that the Asgard left the Tau'ri (always hated that name. Why call yourself something that other people call you by, why not call yourself by what you call yourselves eg: all French calling themselves "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" because that's what Jeremy Clarkson calls them) their legacy because they were dying and they believed the Terrans to be the Fifth Race.
Basically, the United States tried to do what I've seen done in several other fanfics- leverage their advanced technology to ensure that THEY would be the first to the stars, that THEY would be the ones dominating the stars and to varying degrees, other countries could follow. If anything, previous cooperation would only create more resentment among the Russians.Stormhammer said:Gotta agree with Pedmore and Stark. XCVG, I really don't see western civilizations repeating the mistakes of the past on such a large scale. I really don't even see a conflict between us and Russia in the future. They're not trustworthy, but they're too tied economically to the west these days and they're not strong enough to cut ties with us. China is and was the problem child in the show and in real life. Though I expect someone will point out that the same arguement I just made for Russia applies to China. That's the general belief, unless you're paying attention to certain new sources. China's goal is to have a completely indepenedent economy that will run itself without outside connections. They're presently, in real-life currently in a tense transitory period where they either achieve that goal or fail and possibly collapse. China's the threat, Russia's only a threat in their untrustworthiness in real-life and dirty dealing. In Stargate, that's not the case. But relations with China have always been ambigious and problematic in Stargate.
It's the Systems Alliance in name only. You're right, it is a mess. It's not united, it's not stable, and it doesn't have a very strong military. I assure you this is deliberate and will play into the story.Stormhammer said:Furthermore, timeline wise, you're rushing this. Even Mass Effect wasn't that near future. Should push first contact with the citadel back several more decades atleast. Have Earth stablize and found the Systems Alliance and start colonizing with dozens of colonies before the Allies even begin joining. It gives Earth alot of time to develope economically, infastructurally and militarily. What you have right now is a mess, with no political stability or anything. I never thought the Systems Alliance in Mass Effect had that much shit going on.
It's a good guess, but I will not confirm or deny.JEKrug01 said:
I heard the six million number somewhere and assumed it was factual- I guess I had 'total dead' and 'Jews dead' mixed up. I also know about the second fact now but I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that.MonCapitan said:The above is wrong. First of all, the holocaust had far more than six million victims. I think the estimate is somewhere around 11 to 13 million victims total, six million of which were Jews. Secondly, the deliberate targeting of civilians made the war more brutal than World War I.