Can you explain further? May be i will also switch.
The Indus Trial Age: India Civ Quest
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Can you explain further? May be i will also switch.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
I'd like to get started on settling and on better training regimens. Intensified cultivation means we have enough temp econ for x2 raiding next turn and training hunters nets us a bonus so we're more likely to succeed.
Though I'll approval vote for:
[X] [Act] Hunting Expeditions
in case we get Train Hunters + Hunting Expeditions to keep Temp Martial topped off.
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
I'd like to get started on settling and on better training regimens. Intensified cultivation means we have enough temp econ for x2 raiding next turn and training hunters nets us a bonus so we're more likely to succeed.
Though I'll approval vote for:
[X] [Act] Hunting Expeditions
in case we get Train Hunters + Hunting Expeditions to keep Temp Martial topped off.
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BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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After JamesShazbond mentioned something on the last page I sat down and thought about how the value may interact in our diplomacy, simulating possible outcomes and decided I didn't want the hassle. Being able to freely punch anyone is relaxing in ways. Plus not taking it lets us more easily drive wedges into our opponents if we so desire, much more easily than if we got the value.
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- Location
- The Maple Syrup Mountains
As I understand, adoption of this value, apart from diplomacy, will also increase cohesion of society, "noble" brotherhood of warriors and such things. On the other hand, if we do not take this value, then road to sweet unexpected backstabs value can be open in future, which is also great. We can be almost drow!
But in the end, this argument is still applied, i think.
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- Voidbetweenstars
[X] [Blood] No
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - Northern Farmers
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - Northern Farmers
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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Mmm, good point. Ehhh. We'll see what wins the vote and how that turns out.
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- Classified
Like I said earlier, with this value, whenever we meet someone for the first time, we have to decide: are we going to have eternal peace, or are we going to genocide them? With that penalty, it's going to be near impossible to patch up relations with someone we've attacked, so we're going to have to fight until one of us dies. Similarly, the other side of the bonus means it'll be hard for us to drop unproductive allies. Bonuses aren't just mechanics. If our society believes that anyone we've fought alongside with is family of a sort, we're going to have problems if we end up carrying dead weight. Alliances between real societies are transitory things for a reason. Nations don't have friends.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
Approval voting. Get all of our shit together, then hit the farmers with a doubled up boosted raid action next turn. Cultivation will give us more padding in case things go wrong like last time.
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- Voidbetweenstars
[X] [Blood] No
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
I fully agree with this statement. Therefore I think adoption of this value will lead to a more "noble" military society. But, frankly, I'm not very interested in the tribe's ethics, as long as it is militaristic, so either way will satisfy me.
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maximillian
Civilised Sheep
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- Ranch
[X] [Blood] Yes.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Hunting Expeditions
Live excersices make the best practice.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Hunting Expeditions
Live excersices make the best practice.
[X] [Blood] Yes.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - (Northern Farmers)
I'll throw out that diplomacy penalties to people we've fought before probably only applies to general diplomacy - I'd bet them surrendering wouldn't be a problem the same way (most of the worry I'm seeing about it is "we'll need to kill them all dead 'cause they won't diplomacy after a fight," which is a reasonable concern but I don't think will be an issue as long as we win?).
E: Also, while the value makes us backstabbing people harder, it also protects us from being backstabbed, which I think has value.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - (Northern Farmers)
I'll throw out that diplomacy penalties to people we've fought before probably only applies to general diplomacy - I'd bet them surrendering wouldn't be a problem the same way (most of the worry I'm seeing about it is "we'll need to kill them all dead 'cause they won't diplomacy after a fight," which is a reasonable concern but I don't think will be an issue as long as we win?).
E: Also, while the value makes us backstabbing people harder, it also protects us from being backstabbed, which I think has value.
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- Location
- The Deep Blue Sea
Ooooph that's a tricky one... The first couple rounds are before, at least.
- Location
- United States
[X] [Blood] No
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
As nice as it seems at first, it means we would need to stamp out any enemy we've fought, because they sure as hell aren't going to like us for the next thousand years. It also makes vassalization way more difficult.
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
As nice as it seems at first, it means we would need to stamp out any enemy we've fought, because they sure as hell aren't going to like us for the next thousand years. It also makes vassalization way more difficult.
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- Sydney
[X] [Blood] No
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - Northern Farmers
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Raiding Parties - Northern Farmers
[X] [Act] Train Hunters
[X] [Blood] No
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Expand Fishing
[X] [Act] Intensify Cultivation
[X] [Act] Expand Fishing
