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Red_Knight25
Unofficial Edgelord Advocate
The main issue my brain is stumbling on right now is that I'm not sure just how much of our asests we're allowed to commit?
I mean, I get that with the exception of Jeeg and the Magic Knights, anyone goes. But is there a limit on just how much of our roster we can throw at these Gjallarhorn jackasses?
I mean, I get that with the exception of Jeeg and the Magic Knights, anyone goes. But is there a limit on just how much of our roster we can throw at these Gjallarhorn jackasses?
Oh, so who gets to pilot the Zepar, Gundam Frame of House Kujan under Rustal's command?
When Samsara said 'get everyone we have into space' she meant everyone.
So not really any limits. This is an all hands on deck, do or die situation.
As for the Zepar...let's say that Iok was dumb enough to think he could use it to its full potential against 'space trash'. Akihiro had something to say about that.
Red_Knight25
Unofficial Edgelord Advocate
[X] Plan Shame Unto the Guilty
-[X] The Britannian rebel faction
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Bright Noa
--[X] Rebuff whatever hypocrisy the negotiator has to say with the cold hard truth.
Just putting what the thread's been talking about thus far into a relatively solid plan. With the possible exception of our copilot choice, as that was based more upon my concern that we very much do not want to be hit too much in this combat.
-[X] The Britannian rebel faction
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Bright Noa
--[X] Rebuff whatever hypocrisy the negotiator has to say with the cold hard truth.
Just putting what the thread's been talking about thus far into a relatively solid plan. With the possible exception of our copilot choice, as that was based more upon my concern that we very much do not want to be hit too much in this combat.
[X] Plan Shame Unto the Guilty
-[X] The Britannian rebel faction
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Bright Noa
--[X] Rebuff whatever hypocrisy the negotiator has to say with the cold hard truth.
-[X] The Britannian rebel faction
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Bright Noa
--[X] Rebuff whatever hypocrisy the negotiator has to say with the cold hard truth.
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Can we have Ruri call him a "bakabaka"?
...Actually, Ruri likely would be a good choice for an in-depth teardown of exactly how much of a piece of shit he is.
A calm, almost monotone girl's voice hitting this motherfucker with how much of a disgrace he is. How pathetic of a man. That he is less than a dog because a dog doesn't choose to be someone's bitch.
...Actually, Ruri likely would be a good choice for an in-depth teardown of exactly how much of a piece of shit he is.
A calm, almost monotone girl's voice hitting this motherfucker with how much of a disgrace he is. How pathetic of a man. That he is less than a dog because a dog doesn't choose to be someone's bitch.
Good that idiot surviving never made sense to me.
Oh that is is gold, so not only did the idiot get taken out he lost a Gundam to.
I have to agree that the Nergal units will help in this fight better then some but while the IBO mook units might be out matched when it comes to performance by Nemos and GM III and the Wing suits along with a bunch of the other things we are bringing I have to point out that the Nightmare Frames the Britannians are using are not at all designed for use in space and will be outmatched by the Grazes and Reginlazes in space which would make them a weak spot in our encirclement.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
How much do we know of what happened in the Post Disaster Era IC? Because, depeding on how much knowledge Samsara provided on said universe, we may be able to use said knowledge in our rebuttal against Rustal's surrender request...
Not much, just that Tekkadan got their asses handed to them and basically nothing else. FYI, Rustal is going to make a sales pitch of 'surrender and your lives will be spared, think of all the good, order, and peace we can bring to your dimension' for those looking to craft a rebuttal.
So basically Rustal would think that his victory streak will continue... only to find out the hard way that his new enemies ain't gonna fold and destroy his fleet like paper mache.
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[X] Surrounding the Idiots
-[X] 120th through 144th reserve corps
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Yurika Misumaru and Ruri Hoshino tagteam
--[X] Emotional appeals from Yurika to the idea of a solar civilization free to make its own choices supported by Ruri's dispassionate analysis of how the Council is obviously using Rustal's dimension as a resource farm that will be discarded when it's used up.
I like most of the ideas in the existing plan, but I wanted to hand dealing with Rustal over the Nadesico bridge crew for a few reasons (Yurika's a native Martian and noted cooperative peacenik, Ruri's delivery is top-notch, Rustal does not deserve the dignity of a Bright speech). Also decided to go with the Feddie reserves over the Britannian Rebels first because this is a space fight and second because a mix of mothballed ballistic units seems most comparable to PD's overall non-Alaya, non-Calamity technology.
-[X] 120th through 144th reserve corps
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Yurika Misumaru and Ruri Hoshino tagteam
--[X] Emotional appeals from Yurika to the idea of a solar civilization free to make its own choices supported by Ruri's dispassionate analysis of how the Council is obviously using Rustal's dimension as a resource farm that will be discarded when it's used up.
I like most of the ideas in the existing plan, but I wanted to hand dealing with Rustal over the Nadesico bridge crew for a few reasons (Yurika's a native Martian and noted cooperative peacenik, Ruri's delivery is top-notch, Rustal does not deserve the dignity of a Bright speech). Also decided to go with the Feddie reserves over the Britannian Rebels first because this is a space fight and second because a mix of mothballed ballistic units seems most comparable to PD's overall non-Alaya, non-Calamity technology.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
First attempt at making a rebuttal, opinions are welcome...
"To the lapdog of the Council... you speak of your masters as people who bring order and peace to the dimensions they visit, but your words ring hollow, because, unlike you, we know what the Council truly is: a bunch of honorless and barbaric conquerors who believe themselves to be better than those they conquer. And the peace and order promised by the Council are worthless, since they have been given by sacrificing freedom, something which shouldn't be done. And so I say to you... we will not give in and we will not surrender!"
EDIT: To avoid double-posting, editing this post to include some musings on the situation (they may or may not be valid once the battle kicks in):
"To the lapdog of the Council... you speak of your masters as people who bring order and peace to the dimensions they visit, but your words ring hollow, because, unlike you, we know what the Council truly is: a bunch of honorless and barbaric conquerors who believe themselves to be better than those they conquer. And the peace and order promised by the Council are worthless, since they have been given by sacrificing freedom, something which shouldn't be done. And so I say to you... we will not give in and we will not surrender!"
EDIT: To avoid double-posting, editing this post to include some musings on the situation (they may or may not be valid once the battle kicks in):
- While I expect this to be very difficult, we should try and kill Rustal so that the enemy forces have a harder time countering any strategies we employ against them;
- Try and flank the Grazes that carry Dainsleifs as much as possible, in order to make it harder for them to be deployed against us;
- Have our units that are resistant or immune to physical attacks take point against the enemy force, since they should shrug off most of the weapons employed against them, barring some exceptions.
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[X] Surrounding the Idiots
-[X] 120th through 144th reserve corps
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Yurika Misumaru and Ruri Hoshino tagteam
--[X] Emotional appeals from Yurika to the idea of a solar civilization free to make its own choices supported by Ruri's dispassionate analysis of how the Council is obviously using Rustal's dimension as a resource farm that will be discarded when it's used up.
This is the better plan in my eyes because it does not use the Britannian Rebels whose units are not designed at all for space combat and the fact that we can bring in people who can come equipped with most physical weapons who probably are as used to using them as a beam weapon when the newer pilots in our forces probably have less experience with the capabilities and quirks of the physical weapons we can equip them with.
We can also say that a Nemo or a Barzam or even a Bar-GM for example should be more then a match for a Graze while also being designed for use in space unlike the Knightmare frames we could bring.
Plus I feel like Rustal does not really have much of a connection to Bright's character experience and would probably be out much more of base by a person similar to Kudiliea and backed up by Ruri taking apart his claims and his strategies during the battle.
-[X] 120th through 144th reserve corps
-[X] Nergal's private fleet
-[X] Yukari
-[X] 3D encirclement
-[X] Yurika Misumaru and Ruri Hoshino tagteam
--[X] Emotional appeals from Yurika to the idea of a solar civilization free to make its own choices supported by Ruri's dispassionate analysis of how the Council is obviously using Rustal's dimension as a resource farm that will be discarded when it's used up.
This is the better plan in my eyes because it does not use the Britannian Rebels whose units are not designed at all for space combat and the fact that we can bring in people who can come equipped with most physical weapons who probably are as used to using them as a beam weapon when the newer pilots in our forces probably have less experience with the capabilities and quirks of the physical weapons we can equip them with.
We can also say that a Nemo or a Barzam or even a Bar-GM for example should be more then a match for a Graze while also being designed for use in space unlike the Knightmare frames we could bring.
Plus I feel like Rustal does not really have much of a connection to Bright's character experience and would probably be out much more of base by a person similar to Kudiliea and backed up by Ruri taking apart his claims and his strategies during the battle.
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ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
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- Romania
The issue noted with the reserve forces is that they haven't seen real action for quite some time, which means their skills are rusty. They may not be as effective as we believe them to be against the Arianrhod Fleet, who are among the most experienced forces of Gjallarhorn and are under the command of someone who's a very good commander (Rustal). While the Britannian rebels do not use machines that are effective in space, the bulk of those forces are significantly better trained than the reserve corps, given that they are Cornelia's men or used to be part of Britannia's counter-terrorist group. We'll have to think on the matter on which downside is more problematic to decide which second force to call on (lack of skill or machines not meant for space combat).
Also, anyone have anything to say about my attempt at making a rebuttal for Rustal? For reference, here's said rebuttal:
"To the lapdog of the Council... you speak of your masters as people who bring order and peace to the dimensions they visit, but your words ring hollow, because, unlike you, we know what the Council truly is: a bunch of honorless and barbaric conquerors who believe themselves to be better than those they conquer. And the peace and order promised by the Council are worthless, since they have been given by sacrificing freedom, something which shouldn't be done. And so I say to you... we will not give in and we will not surrender!"
Also, anyone have anything to say about my attempt at making a rebuttal for Rustal? For reference, here's said rebuttal:
"To the lapdog of the Council... you speak of your masters as people who bring order and peace to the dimensions they visit, but your words ring hollow, because, unlike you, we know what the Council truly is: a bunch of honorless and barbaric conquerors who believe themselves to be better than those they conquer. And the peace and order promised by the Council are worthless, since they have been given by sacrificing freedom, something which shouldn't be done. And so I say to you... we will not give in and we will not surrender!"
There is one thing that I think has been overlooked: it's not the 120th AND 144th reserve corps, it's the 120th THROUGH the 144th reserve corps. That's 24 whole reserve corps worth of mobile suits and the requisite (granted, mostly ineffective in context) ships being brought into the fight. If nothing else, if you pick the reserve corps option, numbers will be slightly less of a problem.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[X] Surrounding the Idiots
I'll vote for this plan, since most of the ideas I have regarding what to do with regards to the Arianrhod Fleet involve tying the enemy forces as much as possible in order to prevent them from responding well to any of our maneuvers (that said, once we pull a maneuver, we should avoid repeating it as much as possible, since Rustal is likely good enough to formulate counters to any tricks he's managed to get a feel on; nevertheless, the Yamato appeareance should be something that he'll have a difficult time at best countering).
I'll vote for this plan, since most of the ideas I have regarding what to do with regards to the Arianrhod Fleet involve tying the enemy forces as much as possible in order to prevent them from responding well to any of our maneuvers (that said, once we pull a maneuver, we should avoid repeating it as much as possible, since Rustal is likely good enough to formulate counters to any tricks he's managed to get a feel on; nevertheless, the Yamato appeareance should be something that he'll have a difficult time at best countering).
I would say that experience in the One Year war plus years after it would exceed anything the Arianrhod Fleet has as their combat experience before the start of IBO was basically nonexistent and the actual length and scale of they battle with Tekadan and it's allies was not that big or long. I would also say that guys who are experienced use Mech designed for ground combat are not really ready to use those same machines in space a battlefield they have not experience with. The Reserve forces are men and women with experience in the machine they would be using and the battle field they would be fighting in with suits able to match or better the enemy which is a big deal.
A perfect example of the issues they would have are what happened to Kou Uraki the first time he tried to use the GP01 in space and how that was a disaster because he had no training in space and his suit was not configured to fight in space. Remember it's the pilot as much as the suit that decides these kind of fights.
I don't see how he could react to our Super Robots but he is not a complete idiot so we will see him try.
It'd be funnier to see Nanolaminate Armor used by Gjallarhorn be useless against sustained beam attacks and that they can't keep it up forever.
Also since Gjallarhorn wiped out Tekkadan and won, does that mean Gaelio Bauduin and his Kimaris Vidar get involved in the fighting?
It's literally listed under the opposition.
Oh ok. I look forward for the humiliation Gjallarhorn gets and deserves.