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Noriko in Grungust, NORIKO IN GRUNGUST!

I'm very tempted to go full-bore into the Grungust, but other than being somewhat more powerful, how would that actually benefit the Grungust in practice?

And nothing about Psychodrivers. They aren't exactly a thing in this dimension, and if some system is implemented similar to the T-Link, it'd be made with Newtypes in mind instead.

Honestly, we're probably looking at a theoretical Type 1 "MP" Model for the first option. No T-Link equivalent, keeps most of the weapons (some downtuned, of course), and replace the crazy-strong swords with a more readily available variant, like two Mazinger Blades, Twin Lancers, or a custom set that isn't nearly as insane as any of the original models.

While the theoretical type 2 is probably an upgraded Type 2 MP from what we see in Alpha Gaiden, giving it a single Sword and probably keeping the APTGM Launchers and dive-bombs.
 
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[X] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering
-[X] Talk with Noriko
-[X] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[X] Bond with a copilot
--[X] Yukari
-[X] Grungust Development
--[X] Grungust Type 1
-[X] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[X] Repair Gunbuster
-[X] Galactic Tunes
-[X] Peek through the blinds
-[X] Essence of Evolution
-[X] Zugzwang
 
[X] Plan Supers.and secrets
-[X] Talk with Noriko
-[X] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[X] Bond with a copilot
--[X] Yukari
-[X] Grungust Development
--[X] Grungust Type 1
-[X] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[X] Repair Gunbuster
-[X] Essence of Evolution
-[X] Zugzwang
-[X] Peek through the blinds
-[X] Galactic Tunes

So this is My vote, I am Fine with the copit and the destress

The grungust actually serves a lot more, Apart from being a super means both Jeeg's could use it till we recover the bells as it is a fully functioning super instead of a mid powered jeeg.

00 to continue that plot line.

We are all in agreement of the gunbuster repairs.

Same for Getter.

Geass and Cephiro are important due to Brittania and Debonair fuckery also more.possible threats popping up in the later due to description.

As I said we should take the Voltes V plot, since if the professor actually managed to escape, he can reveal the Big plot twists of Voltes with the team being half-Boazanians alongside being able to get one of the hard headed idiots to hear reason, which would put Boazania out of the Game since most of the Main invasion force would rebel if we subert Heinel and give us a lot of troops and a ally.
 
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[X] Plan Supers.and secrets
-[X] Talk with Noriko
-[X] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[X] Bond with a copilot
--[X] Yukari
-[X] Grungust Development
--[X] Grungust Type 1
-[X] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[X] Repair Gunbuster
-[X] Essence of Evolution
-[X] Zugzwang
-[X] Return to Cephiro
-[X] back from the store
 
[X] Plan Supers.and secrets
-[X] Talk with Noriko
-[X] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[X] Bond with a copilot
--[X] Yukari
-[X] Grungust Development
--[X] Grungust Type 1
-[X] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[X] Repair Gunbuster
-[X] Essence of Evolution
-[X] Zugzwang
-[X] Return to Cephiro
-[X] back from the store
 
Hmmm... Hmmm...

I feel like neither plan quite nails what I desire...hm..

I'm...mostly happy with this one. i just wish we could peek at the moon rather than do Geass, because there's a lot more potential shit going down on the moon right now. It isn't just Jeeg, but also Dancouga Nova's big bad is up there. Both, in the vein of many a Super Robot show, are potentially apocalyptic. And that's not tying into anything else on the moon.

We really, really need to do some Macross at some point...Action Economy Hell has been cruel.
 
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I don't want to ignore Jeeg content when we've already seen consequences for neglecting their conflicts. I realize that we need to compromise somewhere, but surely 0 raiser can safely wait for one more turn? Preventing us from having units go inactive seems more helpful than upgrading the same units repeatedly when we only recently got them to this level.

[X] Plan Ounce of Prevention
-[X] Talk with Noriko
-[X] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[X] Bond with a copilot
--[X] Yukari
-[X] Grungust Development
--[X] Grungust Type 1
-[X] Counterfeit Bronze Bell
-[X] Repair Gunbuster
-[X] Essence of Evolution
-[X] Zugzwang
-[X] Return to Cephiro
-[X] back from the store
 
Red_Knight25 said:
I don't want to ignore Jeeg content when we've already seen consequences for neglecting their conflicts. I realize that we need to compromise somewhere, but surely 0 raiser can safely wait for one more turn? Preventing us from having units go inactive seems more helpful than upgrading the same units repeatedly when we only recently got them to this level.
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The Jeeg units are already lagging behind our other units, and Counterfeit Bronze Bell is going to make that issue even worse, to the point where we may struggle to being safely able to deploy the units it unlocks earlier to be able to have them get better. We also have no guarantee that the 00 Raiser research will be there next turn (or that we will have research actions available), and we chose earlier to capture Louise in the last event from Gundam 00, and we do need the Raiser to snap her out of her current state, so it would be prudent to get it now later than later. And even discounting the Raiser, one could argue getting the F91 and unlocking the option to research the Victory line of Gundams would be more useful overall.

Here's are 2 potential compromise plans, opinions on them are welcome.

[] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering (Magic Version)
-[] Talk with Noriko
-[] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[] Bond with a copilot
--[] Yukari
-[] Grungust Development
--[] Grungust Type 1
-[] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[] Repair Gunbuster
-[] Return to Cephiro
-[] Peek through the blinds
-[] Essence of Evolution
-[] Zugzwang

[] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering (Delayed Repairs)
-[] Talk with Noriko
-[] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[] Bond with a copilot
--[] Yukari
-[] Grungust Development
--[] Grungust Type 1
-[] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[] Return to Cephiro
-[] Galactic Tunes
-[] Peek through the blinds
-[] Essence of Evolution
-[] Zugzwang

First compromise drops the Macross event (something I don't think we should do, since the Vajra are an unknown quantity to us, and we ought to know more about them), the other drops the Gunbuster repairs (they won't finish this turn anyways, which would have been the best time to have a repaired Gunbuster available, given the vague warnings we've got, so I feel like we can afford to delay for a turn and have Gunbuster ready for the next stunt the Council tried to pull on us). In either case, the dropped action is replaced with Return to Cephiro, since the thread considers it to be important (all of my plans already take Peek through the blinds, so I am covering the Jeeg event). I am against dropping the Code Geass event, since we are getting closer to defeating Britannia and we don't want them to pull something that could allow them to recover somewhat from their losses, which would force us to use more effort in defeating them and allowing other threats to get more breathing room.
 
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...Yeaaah, as much as I really want Gunbuster, it can be put off for now.

Hope Noriko enjoys the Grungust. And...uh, hey, how is Kasumi doing, anyways?
 
ShiftingSandLand said:
...Yeaaah, as much as I really want Gunbuster, it can be put off for now.

Hope Noriko enjoys the Grungust. And...uh, hey, how is Kasumi doing, anyways?
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Oh, trust me, you do not want to put off starting repairs on Gunbuster. Even if it won't be available immediately, getting a head start will be valuable for...reasons...

Also, Kazumi is able to stay conscious for a few hours at a time, but she's not well enough to have visitors aside from Noriko at the moment.
 
I mean we normally get 4 actions, the 5th one is probably just so we can get started on repairing the gunbuster while also having the usual amount of events for the turn.
 
Aron593 said:
I mean we normally get 4 actions
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The number of Solar Vanguard actions we get isn't a stable 4, but seems to be dependent on the number of choices we have available in that section.

The main issue with the leading plan is that it isn't taking Peek through the blinds, since we do need to put some effort into the Jeeg plot and we can't ignore it (Bronze Bells research isn't a solution, since not only are all the other potential research choices more important, it also weakens the units it unlocks earlier and they already struggled to be relevant; with the added penalty, we may not even be able to have them accumulate experience without risking them to be destroyed by enemy units, especially enemy aces). The plan that is currently in the lead should consider dropping either Return to Cephiro or Back from the Store for Peek through the blinds.
 
OH WAIT I REMEMBER NOW WHAT EPISODE OF RAYEARTH IS THIS.

This seems to be the episode where the 3 other countries are trying to invade cephiro, so yeah we can probably drop the cephiro visit now that I remember this, since on 30 they kinda were just there for those missions and then didn't do much afterward.

So we can probably leave the girls alone without much consequences and take the Jeeg plot over Cephiro.

Edit: changed my vote to drop Cephiro and take the jeeg plot, like I said I still want to do the Voltes V plot since it is possible we can reach an early end with Boa and drop them out of the board if we managed to subert Heinel.
 
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For anyone who wants to know more specifically about what QM is talking about...

theguynamedwafer said:
[VIPs for world peace]: You have three names of people whose deaths will have unintended, but far reaching consequences; Michel Blanc
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So yeah, if voting's still open, it looks we can't drop Galactic Tunes without setting ourselves up for some consequences later on, so if people don't want to risk it, vote for Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering (the only plan that has Galactic Tunes as an action and a change to overtake the leading plan).
 
... Well shit

So we are pretty much locked to Geass, Getter, Jeeg and Macross alongside gunbuster

Will drop Voltes from My vote for macross
 
[X] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering

This seems the safest out of the "we definitely are sacrificing something" design of the action count.
 
Reminder QM also warned us to not put off the gunbuster repairs for later.

theguynamedwafer said:
Oh, trust me, you do not want to put off starting repairs on Gunbuster. Even if it won't be available immediately, getting a head start will be valuable for...reasons...

Also, Kazumi is able to stay conscious for a few hours at a time, but she's not well enough to have visitors aside from Noriko at the moment.
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So the plan being voted now will need to have Gunbuster, Jeeg and Macross to cover everything
 
Gunbuster, Moon, and Macross are required.

Non-required but blaring fucking warning signs is Getter, as...anything to do with the Invaders does. They're just that kinda threat.

I don't think Geass is...like, immediate concern? We literally just finished a big arc in that, and while it's a worry I think it's going to need some time before it becomes an immediate yes, y'know?

Voltes would be very nice to get, but it's kind of a juggle.

Do we want to know more on the upcoming Geass threat, or do we want to cut the Voltes villains of at the knees in the future, because he carries a ton of valuable intel that can really change how those events go down.
 
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[] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering, Rescue Focus
-[] Talk with Noriko
-[] Relax (Stress level, Moderate-Moderately high)
-[] Bond with a copilot
--[] Yukari
-[] Grungust Development
--[] Grungust Type 1
-[] Double Zed Quantum Particle Physics
-[] Repair Gunbuster
-[] Galactic Tunes
-[] Back from the store
-[] Peek through the blinds
-[] Essence of Evolution

Decided to put a version of my plan that drops Zugzwang for Back from the store to gauge the thread's opinion on which we consider more important between rescuing Professor Go or finding out IC about Schneizel, his plans and the FLEIJA.
 
[X] Plan Socialization, Research and Intelligence Gathering, Rescue Focus

More on board with this then, there is a canon anti measure for the FLEIJA after all so we can probably leave Geass on the backdrop at the moment.

On the other hand since Samsara has data on Gaogaigar, wonder if the eraser head could be used as another countermeaser if we can replicate the system it uses, after all that thing was made just to deal with big ass nuke detonations.

Either way the geass event is probably the only one we have some leaway since we have been doing constantly their plot.

Since otherwise, we know Macross and Gunbuster are a must due to QM warnings.

The invaders even getting the possibility of constructing Shin getter dragon is alarming enough to require inspection after all the original project in armageddon was just an stupid amount of metal beast dragons combined to form it.

We ignored Jeeg for so long that we are getting consequences, there is also the thread worries about the Dancouga Nova final enemy since apparently it is there alongside Himika.
 
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