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Stark Transcendent (Iron Man/Marvel Quest)

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Zen said:
While I approve of this in general, can we defend against Deadpool/Bullseye/Mysterious Conspiracies first? :( Plus I don't think many oil-rich countries are going to be thrilled with us very soon...
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Pfft who cares when we bring in all that water and space travel and metals to build everything?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ion--years-financial-output-entire-WORLD.html

As I've said, this is way too good to pass up.

And well... we could always go mine 241 Germania and sell the oil to the oil-rich nations. It's 100 miles wide, absolutely filled with loads of oil and other hydrocarbons.. and probably undetected metals as well.
 
Kaioo said:
we could always go mine 241 Germania and sell the oil to the oil-rich nations. It's 100 miles wide, absolutely filled with loads of oil
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Or we could set fire to it for shits and giggles.

'NEWS AT 11: TONY STARK BURNS DOWN ASTEROID, EVERYONE CONFUSED'
 
Mithril-blade said:
Dude, Tony has a theme. One which we follow.

Ergo, we are going to be developing Repulsor cannons. None of this Turbolaser plasma casting crap.:mad:
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Would Repulsor cannons work for ship weapons? if not.. turbolasers.
 
serapheus said:
A sizable part of the economy being controlled by a board of directors from a shady board room? Tony is more genre savvy than that.
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So instead you're going to turn us into Dr. Doom Lite?

So, question. What exactly is our percentage in Stark Industries, our otherwise net worth, our liquid assets, and the other major shareholders? "Getting rid of the board" is something that might require planning. It's also something that might be helped by getting Obi on-side, if he's having regrets about his original plan.
 
serapheus said:
We need to be asteroid mining, in a very basic capacity, within two months. ;).
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Repulsors Mark 2 (suborbital speed) alone requires 2 tech spaces. We're going to have to do some serious research to get ahead of him. On the other hand, Exoskeleton Mark 2 handles space, so we could ourselves up there a lot easier than starting full-out mining. Pity we can't get tech boosts with omakes and the like.

NASA's going to love us, at least. :(
 
Zen said:
Repulsors Mark 2 (suborbital speed) alone requires 2 tech spaces. We're going to have to do some serious research to get ahead of him. On the other hand, Exoskeleton Mark 2 handles space, so we could ourselves up there a lot easier than starting full-out mining. Pity we can't get tech boosts with omakes and the like.

NASA's going to love us, at least. :(
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Repulsors shouldn't have a speed limit, we aren't using aristotlian physics I hope.

If you need more thrust just build more repulsor engines, I presume for starks personal spaceship we would have no problem building a big arc reactor to power it you don't need massively powerful small repuslor engines when the little hand held mk1 variants will let you go orbital.

Their thrust to weight ratio is more than enough to leave the earth.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
Repulsors shouldn't have a speed limit, we aren't using aristotlian physics I hope.

If you need more thrust just build more repulsor engines, I presume for starks personal spaceship we would have no problem building a big arc reactor to power it you don't need massively powerful small repuslor engines when the little hand held mk1 variants will let you go orbital.

Their thrust to weight ratio is more than enough to leave the earth.
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Every (recent) time Tony's gone to space in the comics, he's strapped on a whole bunch of extra engines on the back of his suit and taken off like a bat out of hell. I figure that to fuel such a boost via the suit, though, you either need to multiply the number of reactors or have a stronger one - canon tony tends to go for the latter.

Movie suborbital suit:


Modern comics space suit:
 
Roarian said:
GM signal
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Not sure if you saw it towards the end of the last page or not (it was an edit, too). How much of Stark Industries do we own, how much do other people own, and how easy is it going to be to shift those numbers around in our favor as a medium-term goal?
 
Roarian said:
Every time Tony's been gone to space, he's strapped on a whole bunch of extra engines on the back of his suit and taken off like a bat out of hell. I figure that to fuel such a boost via the suit, though, you either need to multiply the number of reactors or have a stronger one - canon tony tends to go for the latter.
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That... doesn't really make sense to me. As shown in the movie he's quite capable of flying straight up from the earth with his standard repulsor engines in his hands and feet.

Now maybe the suit needs to be vac-sealed but he really shouldn't have any problems getting into space. It's not like he needs to reach LEO in 30 seconds or less even if it takes a full ten minutes he's more than capable of leaving the atmosphere and then building up speed further in frictionless vacuum.
UberJJK said:
Physics sadly don't work that way.

Rockets are limited by their exhaust velocity.
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Quite right! and repulsors are reaction-less drives.

So yes physics does work this way with stark tech.

The only thing that matters is thrust vs friction for maximum speed. The exhaust velocity is high enough to be used as a weapon to knock giant suits of metal around or to smash rock and concrete walls.

So how else do you explain super sonic flight with the things?

How does any of this work? MAGIC.

No seriously, repulsors and arc reactors are both MAGIC.
 
Roarian said:
Every time Tony's gone to space in the comics, he's strapped on a whole bunch of extra engines on the back of his suit and taken off like a bat out of hell. I figure that to fuel such a boost via the suit, though, you either need to multiply the number of reactors or have a stronger one - canon tony tends to go for the latter.
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Problem is any jet that can takeoff vertically could reach space if their engines worked in the environment.

If Repulsors work in a vacuum the same they do in atmosphere Tony could go to space just because the fact the many scenes that show him hovering in one place and rise to higher altitudes. That is all repulsor power as I don't see any wings for his suit to aerodynamically generate lift.

Edit: It also isn't a power problem because the Arc Reactor can run for a very long time till it runs out of power. At least enough to get to Afghanistan and back at mach speeds.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
That... doesn't really make sense to me. As shown in the movie he's quite capable of flying straight up from the earth with his standard repulsor engines in his hands and feet.

Now maybe the suit needs to be vac-sealed but he really shouldn't have any problems getting into space. It's not like he needs to reach LEO in 30 seconds or less even if it takes a full ten minutes he's more than capable of leaving the atmosphere and then building up speed further in frictionless vacuum.
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I think part of the issue is getting anywhere in an appreciable time span, since the suit is not gonna serve as a life-support mechanism for more than some hours or at most days without resupplying etc. I mean, you're basically firing a spacesuit into the ether here. The canon plays fast and loose with physics, but it tends to still respect some basics...
Quite right! and repulsors are reaction-less drives.

So yes physics does work this way with stark tech.

The only thing that matters is thrust vs friction for maximum speed. The exhaust velocity is high enough to be used as a weapon to knock giant suits of metal around or to smash rock and concrete walls.

So how else do you explain super sonic flight with the things?
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The repulsor is such a hax invention...
 
Vlad III said:
Problem is any jet that can takeoff vertically could reach space if their engines worked in the environment.

If Repulsors work in a vacuum the same they do in atmosphere Tony could go to space just because the fact the many scenes that show him hovering in one place and rise to higher altitudes. That is all repulsor power as I don't see any wings for his suit to aerodynamically generate lift.

Edit: It also isn't a power problem because the Arc Reactor can run for a very long time till it runs out of power. At least enough to get to Afghanistan and back at mach speeds.
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Pretty much, there is nothing that limits Stark from getting into space except his suit being properly vacuum sealed and having a decent enough power source to run the repulsors. Flying thousands of miles from the middle east to America vs flying 20 miles straight up. It should actually be easier for him to leave the planet considering the complete and total lack of any kind of aerodynamic lift characteristics of his suit.

He's constantly generating lift counter to gravity with his repulsors whilst making the journey over the sea because there is no way his suit is doing that.
Roarian said:
I think part of the issue is getting anywhere in an appreciable time span, since the suit is not gonna serve as a life-support mechanism for more than some hours or at most days without resupplying etc. I mean, you're basically firing a spacesuit into the ether here. The canon plays fast and loose with physics, but it tends to still respect some basics...




The repulsor is such a hax invention...
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Hah, well I wasn't thinking about using it with the suit for space travel. Building a larger shuttlebus sized hull with a nice sized arc reactor + those mk 1 repulsors should get him into space.

HE could even have a mini-bar onboard. Space alcoholism on the go! :p
 
Random832 said:
Not sure if you saw it towards the end of the last page or not (it was an edit, too). How much of Stark Industries do we own, how much do other people own, and how easy is it going to be to shift those numbers around in our favor as a medium-term goal?
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Judging from canon, Tony has a controlling interest in the company, likely with Obadiah's part included, and that's why he's so flippant about throwing everything in a new direction; Obi reminds him that he shareholders have rights too, and it's them with Obi's assistance that oust Tony from his position.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
Pretty much, there is nothing that limits Stark from getting into space except his suit being properly vacuum sealed and having a decent enough power source to run the repulsors. Flying thousands of miles from the middle east to America vs flying 20 miles straight up. It should actually be easier for him to leave the planet considering the complete and total lack of any kind of aerodynamic lift characteristics of his suit.

He's constantly generating lift counter to gravity with his repulsors whilst making the journey over the sea because there is no way his suit is doing that.
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There's been at least three space-capable suits in the comics' run, and at least one of those was capable of launching itself into orbit without any external help, though obviously the writers don't really go for orbital mechanics here. The repulsor works just fine in space - in fact, he adapted them at some point to allow him FTL-travel, by incorporating some variation of a wormhole-like alien tech. I mean, that's some impressively OP application for an already impressive device...
Hah, well I wasn't thinking about using it with the suit for space travel. Building a larger shuttlebus sized hull with a nice sized arc reactor + those mk 1 repulsors should get him into space. HE could even have a mini-bar onboard. Space alcoholism on the go! :p
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The space armors is how he does it in the comics, and the movies show a suborbital 'Gemini' armor, so clearly he's been working on it. Given that Iron Man has been a part-time member of the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Thanos is the villain of Avengers 3, I'm thinking we'll be seeing a movie version yet.
 
It doesn't matter if it takes an hour or ten hours for one of Tony's rockets to reach orbit. With an Arc Reactor powering them, fuel is not a problem.

I've got a write in for the next time we have R&D-- a Low-Profile Suit. Basically, it's like a slimmed-down suitcase suit meant to fit under clothing (which makes Tony look a little bulky, but w/e). Bare-minimal functions; it's somewhat immune to small-arms fire and has less capable flight/repulsor function; just enough to get Tony out of danger. Basically, it's for situations like the one we were just in, intended to provide some protection so Tony can get out of the line of fire and either swap into something significantly more badass, run the hell away, or call in drones to dogpile the aggressor.
 
Looking at that backpack on the movieverse Iron Man space suit, the first thing I thought it was for was a bigger place to store oxygen. Then my next one was that Tony probably put the repulsor on the back for extra boost to make the trip shorter so he didn't lose more of his limited oxygen supply getting from one place to another.
 
serapheus said:
The first pic is pretty good, though I hate the helmet design, but the second~...

Why on earth would you make your primary engines like that? -wtf expression-
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It looks slightly more reasonable here, though I have no idea how he's preventing himself from tumbling forward. XD
 
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