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0t4n1z3r019 said:
It's hard to pick on choices, but these are my votes:

[] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)
[] Extra Crew Quarters

A good pair of modules to allow for more science-oriented stuff like scanning for Negative Space Wedgies and shit in peacetime, as well as providing some crew comforts.

[] Extra Crew Quarters
[] Cargo Bay (+3 Cargo)

Some cargo capacity is good, especially when crises during peacetime would happen.

[] Chemistry (+2 Science)
[] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)

And lastly, putting these to boost the ship's peacetime use before the next purpose built explorer is built.
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Unfortunately friend, that actually just votes for everything when you format it that way.

If you wanted to vote for three separate plan-votes, you'd do it this way:

[] Plan: Science Wedgies
-[] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)
-[] Extra Crew Quarters

[] Plan: Peacetime Cruiser
-[] Extra Crew Quarters
-[] Cargo Bay (+3 Cargo)

[] Plan: Mega Science
-[] Chemistry (+2 Science)
-[] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)
 
Okay extra crew quarters have 99 votes so yay for that and the ice cream maker is in third place i really hope sayle makes a mention of it in the updoot
Adhoc vote count started by Vista on Oct 25, 2024 at 11:46 PM, finished with 294 posts and 112 votes.
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Ever get the feeling that Sayle gave us Stellar Dynamics instead of Long Range Sensors or Advanced Sensors specifically so that we wouldn't have arguments about detecting cloaked ships?

Because that's another war I can definitely do without starting up again!
 
I'm really torn. On the one hand, this ship seems well set up for extended missions (five year missions even) exploring the edge of known space around the borders of the Federation.

On the other hand... it's still a half-saucer. Can I really vote for a half-saucer to have the "Constitution class" name? Is it better for that name to not exist than to give it to a half-saucer? Hard decisions, hard calls, the next vote (I presume tne name vote) is going to be a tough one.
 
It's the Constitution-III/Neo-Constitution class over 100 years early.



40ish years early if we're aiming for the Shangri-La Class.
Albeit with a different neck and different nacelles, though.
 
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Golgotha said:
Ever get the feeling that Sayle gave us Stellar Dynamics instead of Long Range Sensors or Advanced Sensors specifically so that we wouldn't have arguments about detecting cloaked ships?

Because that's another war I can definitely do without starting up again!
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No, no, *now* it'll be about cloaked Planets!
"What the-"
"Hm?"
"Gravimetric readings indicate there should be a planetary body right...here, but visual Sensors show nothing!"
"That is rather peculiar, yes..."
 
landcollector said:
No, no, *now* it'll be about cloaked Planets!
"What the-"
"Hm?"
"Gravimetric readings indicate there should be a planetary body right...here, but visual Sensors show nothing!"
"That is rather peculiar, yes..."
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That's a whole Thing in Star Trek, planets that are out of phase and only drop in for a few days every several years. It has happened more than once. I've got theories about it, but they're far fetched.
 
Golgotha said:
Ever get the feeling that Sayle gave us Stellar Dynamics instead of Long Range Sensors or Advanced Sensors specifically so that we wouldn't have arguments about detecting cloaked ships?

Because that's another war I can definitely do without starting up again!
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I'm kind of wondering if sensors of that level are just considered standard to put on a ship like this, and so doesn't represent a true choice. So instead you just get the items that are not obvious.
 
Briefvoice said:
I'm really torn. On the one hand, this ship seems well set up for extended missions (five year missions even) exploring the edge of known space around the borders of the Federation.

On the other hand... it's still a half-saucer. Can I really vote for a half-saucer to have the "Constitution class" name? Is it better for that name to not exist than to give it to a half-saucer? Hard decisions, hard calls, the next vote (I presume tne name vote) is going to be a tough one.
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I'm honestly with you there but I'm not sure if enough people agree. :frown2:

[X] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)
[X] Extra Crew Quarters
 
Briefvoice said:
I'm really torn. On the one hand, this ship seems well set up for extended missions (five year missions even) exploring the edge of known space around the borders of the Federation.

On the other hand... it's still a half-saucer. Can I really vote for a half-saucer to have the "Constitution class" name? Is it better for that name to not exist than to give it to a half-saucer? Hard decisions, hard calls, the next vote (I presume tne name vote) is going to be a tough one.
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I mean. This design is way, way more of a warship than the OTL Connie ever was, for all it was a warship by Word of Kirk. It's also far more of a hotrod Battlecruiser than a stately heavy cruiser in terms of how we built it to fight.

I'm inclined to not call it "Constitution" for a good many reasons, and not simply because I want to make a purpose built Explorer to follow in the tradition of the NX and Sagarmatha classes sometime in the next 2-3 designs, depending on how the upcoming scuffle with the Klingons goes and when we get a Type Four Nacelle to go with our shiny new warp cores; and therefore would prefer to hold the name space in reserve.
 
AntiSanity said:
Not only do planet phase in and out of the universe, there was actually a cloaked planet once.

They wanted to steal all the children from the Ent-D.
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I think all those phasing planets are the Sufficiently Advanced version of a cloaked planet, made so long ago that no one remembers.

Rather like how all those duplicate Earths - enough they named a whole social law after it - are actually debris from the time war.
 
Briefvoice said:
On the other hand... it's still a half-saucer. Can I really vote for a half-saucer to have the "Constitution class" name? Is it better for that name to not exist than to give it to a half-saucer? Hard decisions, hard calls, the next vote (I presume tne name vote) is going to be a tough one.
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KnightDisciple said:
I'm honestly with you there but I'm not sure if enough people agree. :frown2:
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Speaking purely for myself...there is no way in the nine hells I'll vote to name this ship the Constitution-Class. Absolutely not. I like this cute battlecruiser, but it's not a Connie. It's its own thing. I want it to have its own identity.
 
darkstarling said:
I think all those phasing planets are the Sufficiently Advanced version of a cloaked planet, made so long ago that no one remembers.

Rather like how all those duplicate Earths - enough they named a whole social law after it - are actually debris from the time war.
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No, we know where all the duplicate Earths are from; those are the work of the Preservers for the most part (though why they thought the Nazis worth preserving is beyond me), a couple are creations of Sufficiently Omnipotent civilizations like the Q Continuum, and only like one or two are the results of time travel fekery.

edit: The phasing planets are just a Thing That Happens in the Trekverse.
 
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darkstarling said:
I think all those phasing planets are the Sufficiently Advanced version of a cloaked planet, made so long ago that no one remembers.

Rather like how all those duplicate Earths - enough they named a whole social law after it - are actually debris from the time war.
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The phasing planets are usually Trek's too common space-weirdness of the week and are natural. The cloaked planet was advanced tech that someone built and the local residents forgot how to maintain it.
Mechanis said:
No, we know where all the duplicate Earths are from; those are the work of the Preservers for the most part (though why they thought the Nazis worth preserving is beyond me), a couple are creations of Sufficiently Omnipotent civilizations like the Q Continuum, and only like one or two are the results of time travel fekery.
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The Nazi planet wasn't done by the Preservers. It was some random human cultural observer who went rogue and decided to reshape a human inhabited planet into a Nazi controlled one.

Don't blame the precursor species for plane simple human stupidity.
 
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AntiSanity said:
The Nazi planet wasn't done by the Preservers. It was some random human cultural observer who went rogue and decided to reshape a human inhabited planet into a Nazi controlled one.

Don't blame the precursor species for plane simple human stupidity.
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Oh right. Forgot that. In fairness there are way too many duplicate earths to keep them all straight without a spreadsheet.

edit: though in fairness the planet is probably a duplicate Earth because of the Preservers, the Nazis are just whatsiface's fault.
 
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[X] Stellar Dynamics (+2 Science)
[X] Extra Crew Quarters
[X] Cargo Bay (+3 Cargo)

All these options are good. It'd be nice for this ship to have limited science capabilities, even if it's only incidental, so long as it doesn't impact its combat performance.

The enlarged crew quarters will definitely synergize with the expanded fuel tanks and workshops allowing long-term operation in potentially hostile territory.

Cargo bay just because extra storage is always a good thing. Can enable long-range travel, courier stuff etc.

I'd love the chemical analysis labs or whatever they were, but I'm thinking if this thing is doing exploration, it's gonna be initial surface-level stuff, not deep-level exploration. That's what science and survey ships are for.
 
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