Sartier Quest: A Tale of Song, Gods, and Trouble (CK2-Let's Go Hunt Gods, SV!)

Okay, the Lucas Capo profile with elaborated traits.


Symphonius Lucas Capo, Executive of the Great House Capo

Martial Poor
Combat Fair
Stewardship Great
Diplomacy Fair
Intrigue Elite!
Magic Good-Songweaver
Piety Middling-High
Dread 4

Symphony; "Part of the Ruling Pair of a Great House of Sartier, with the resources of thousands at their disposal." - Ruling Noble, +2 D, +1 S, +1 I, +1 M, +2 Mg
Cunning; "This person has a natural inclination and capacity for intrigues." - +2 Intrigue, will gain Intrigue stats and traits more easily
Lewd Streak; "A penchant for flesh and fun mark this person." - Marker for certain background mechanics, greater chance of scandal. Tier 2 of 3
Married to Theresa Capo; "Marriage currently binds this person to another." - Marker trait for background mechanics, indicates an active Marriage
Father to Alana Capo, Raul Capo; "Fatherhood has come to this one." - Lucas has two legitimate children.
Aged; "Father Time has begun to sink his claws in to this man." - -2 Martial, -4 Combat, triggers at Age 40, may be offset by Spry. Tier 1 of 2
Grasp of Numbers; "An innate grasp of numbers will help this one learn the arts of stewardship." - +1 Stewardship, easier to gain pro-Stewardship traits
Tutored; "A full education was accorded to this person." - +1 M, +2 S, +1 D, +1 I, +1 Mg, Tier 2 of 2
Longsword-master; "This weapon is now fully understood by this person." - +1 C, +1 to Combat Bonus when using this Weapon
Maestro of Shadows; "A maestro of spies, who could turn daughter against father, brother against sister, vassal against liege." - +3 Intrigue, greater chances of finding good spies. [1]
Familiar with Killers; "Killers, saboteurs, poisoners, whatever the sort of dark agent, this character knows them." - +2 I, increased chance of finding good assassins. Tier 2 of 3.
Consummate Spy; "Character knows how to chase down all manner of information.", +2 I, +6 bonus to information gathering actions. Tier 2 of 3.
Veteran Songweaver; "One who has developed a powerful understanding of magic. This is as far as most Songweavers go, however.", +3 Magic, +1 Casting Dice, may cast Tier 2 Songweaver Spells. Tier 3 of 4.
Loremaster; "Much can be learned from the old lore of the land, and the superstitions therein. Even if, occasionally it can lead you to dark places." - +3 Piety, +2 Magic. Tier 2 of 2.
Merciless; "Perfectly willing to kill in a duel, even when it is not necessary." - Behavioural Marker
The Taxman Cometh; "In their younger days, this person held responsibility for tax collection, and learned many of the tricks of the trade." - +2 S, +6 to tax related actions
Iron Fist; "A ruthless governor who crushes dissent brutally." - +2 Dread, -2% Revolt Risk
The Lurking Spider; "Lurking at the centre of the networks of Carentan, Lucas is every bit as deadly a foe as a spider in its web." - Allow re-roll of one intrigue action per turn for his House. Unique Trait.
Venerated Statesman; "When this one speaks, all ears listen." - +2 Influence. Tier 3 of 3.
Man As An Island; "As self-sufficient and controlled as they come, few of the normal strings that diplomats pull work with him." - May cancel personal diplomacy stats from any diplomacy action directed at the Symphony if he so chooses.
Restrained Drinker; "Doesn't mind a drink, but keeps it under control" - +1 D, +1 I, Tier 1 of 3
Cold-hearted; "This character will easily ignore other's suffering if it profits them." - +2 S, -2 D, affects aid rolls. Tier 2 of 3.
Blind-Eye; "Doesn't mind their spouse sampling on the side (and probably does so themselves), as long as said spouse isn't stupid enough to leave a mess." - Behavioural marker, affects certain background rolls. [2]
Ruthless; "Willing to bend rules and cut corners, this person lets no moral objection stand between them and what must be done." - Capable of vicious acts in pursuit of self-interest. Tier 1 of 2.
Severely Austere; "A paragon of clean, wholesome living, to the point that it probably infuriates those around them!" +3 S, -1 I. Tier 3 of 3. Affected by Lewd Streak/Affairs traits.
Ambitious; "Aspirations and dreams are held dear to this person's heart." - Behavioural Marker. Will look to move up in the world.
Affairs; "Known for carrying on many flings and trysts." - Increased chance of duels, pregnancy, problems, especially if in a relationship. Affected by Theresa's Blind-Eye Trait.

[1] = There are spying, assassin, spymaster, and assassin-master trait trees, each with three tiers.
[2] = Both Theresa and Lucas are effectively in a sort of open relationship.

Few public figures in Sartier evoke the fear and dread of Lucas Capo, the Spider of Carentan. A master of intrigue and deception, he layers his plots, schemes and gambits deeply, with foresight and subtlety. In his younger days, people told him he was mad to pursue the Symphony's daughter, as he could never be her Marshall. But he knew that Theresa secretly didn't want to be the Executive her parents expected of her, and that he could offer her what she truly wanted. Together they have forged one of the most dangerous and effective regimes Sartier has ever seen, whose plots can change a kingdom. A brutally austere man, Lucas eschews all vices that control the user, setting aside any extravagant displays of fortune and excess in favour of clean simplicity. His one indulgence is that of the flesh, as even in his advancing years he maintains a steady string of trysts.

Dominic - "Lucas is probably the most frightening man in all of Sartier. With his Spymistress, Alouette, he is a cold-blooded schemer, holding himself in total self-control. Never take him lightly."

Evelyn - "His daughter and heir, Alana, is another old friend of mine, and I know Lucas through her. Spooky man, not through anything overt that he does. He just has a presence. Oh, right, and a trail of bodies that goes on for miles."
 
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Hmm interesting question. They're effectively gods in the sense that they have powers/control and can endow their followers with skills/powers etc. But, it could be argued, the Teuvian gods determined the scope of their er... domains. If you want to call it that. That's what "self-proclaimed" is referencing.

We could get into the magic physics nitty gritty, but Evelyn wouldn't know that and I imagine even if you plumbed the depths of Memphrabi records, they wouldn't have all of that themselves, either.

[edit]: Oops, the above is for @kitsune9
 
"Hmm yes, I seem to recall hearing they have some and that they're not bad at what they do."

Heh. Also, Commodore Ritter was totally a spy for Sonissimo. :rolleyes: I mean, not that Evelyn gathered otherwise, but still.

"I'm saying how did we not know that they could do something like this and what are you going to do about it?!"

"Well," I leaned forward, "for starters, I did know they could do something like this. Or, at least knew it was highly likely. I did foster with them, you know, and got to see firsthand some of what Rita could do back then."

There is that. The first unsurprised non-Tellar ruler!

"Because we're past quibbling over them usurping our rule, Blake."

Does this mean Sonissimo will finally be paying the tithe? (Pay the tithe, Hana! *shakes fist* We want that money!)

"You're uniquely placed, and talented enough, to make sure this stays working to our benefit. And that we have contingencies in place if it doesn't."

His mouth set, grimly pleased, "Leave it with me."

... Hrm. We probably ought to keep an eye on that. And get started on building our magic advantage, maybe with that music lesson thing.

Reluctantly, he had to admit that even he had not realised the Tellar songweavers had grown to such strength. It was easy to underestimate them, hidden behind their veil of incompetent management and backwater townships. Like diamonds in the rough, however, there was true potential to be tapped there and he had been remiss in not cultivating the appropriate relationships sooner. It was time to see Alouette and discuss strategic placements.

Mmm. Spies? Starting up foster relations? (Both? Probably both.) I had wondered if it were actually a choice between Sonissimo and Capo, but it's looking like Capo never approached Tellar in the first place.

For Sonissimo... well, I can see why they'd have Hana foster with Evelyn over Alana, considering that Evelyn was the Concerto even back then, Hana's probable position as future Marshall (so hang out with the martial + magic house), and whether you'd really want a possible future Symphony candidate influenced by Capo. Capo probably 'wins' the mutual-influence / hook there, and given the chatter thus far on Alana vs. Raoul, Alana's probably more dangerous in that respect.

Surprised that Avery didn't foster with Raoul. Seems like good politics to have done so - one to each Great House with the Concertos.

But it was obvious that even so, Sartier possessed power few had thought possible. Certainly of a nature that surpassed anything the Nexis would be able to field now or in the future.

Did we start a magic race?

But if what they had shown then was anything like what Alice's account to Clan Ruger hinted at, they were a force to be reckoned with and a worthy ally to shore up sooner than later.

Yes. Please send trade and help with stewardship.

"Thank you, Douglas," she smiled at her husband. "Would you fancy a trip, my love? Accompanied, of course, but those Sartierans might perceive your presence as sufficient honour, no?"

Although men were not rated particularly highly in Khironex society, her role required knowledge of other nations' customs, and she understood how to use those to her benefit from time to time. Such as sending her husband to a nation who allowed genders equal access in all matters.

"Of course, Serenity," he said meekly.

Heh. So this would be the meet with Khironex option - except visa versa. I wonder if that option is now grayed out because Khironex took the first step.

With dismay, the Kabilean King received the news of Sartier's triumph at Nune Reef. Not because he wished ill on Sartier, but because he hated backing the wrong horse.

:lol Perfect usage of phrase here... I love it.

Kabilean magic was of a gentler nature, focused on the defense of their home and horses.

Ooooo. I want that. Hey - maybe this is part of the upgrade for our Harperknights.

How fascinating. A distant relation, sending Levar on an expeditionary mission had been more to get him out of the way than for any real purpose. The boy did go on so.

... Hah. He got sent away because he talked too much? Someone was really having a laugh with that ship name. I wonder if Levar has realized this and is just putting a good face on or if he actually likes wandering the world.

There yet remained disagreement on tactics, but their missionaries and Renmi were proving useful, and the new information that now reached them of the exact strength of Sartier was critical.

Hrm. Yeah, we need to do something about Renmi. It's too close by to let Teuv have a foothold from which they can apparently send endless missionaries to stir up Dale and Vincennes (and elsewhere).

In the mist-shrouded halls of Teuv, Bragati, self-proclaimed god of bravery and luck, massaged the old wound in his side and made plans. Soon.

Nice purview, dude. I'm serious - that is a cool choice, but I'm not sure you can call yourself the god of luck when you ended up a wound in your side. Or was it luck that he only got a wound instead of being killed outright?
 
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"Hmm yes, I seem to recall hearing they have some and that they're not bad at what they do."

"Could you just…?" Blake sputtered, face reddening.

I grinned, goal achieved. "Continue, Vice-Marshall."
Trolling your subordinates and relatives, the true purview of rulers everywhere?

"Well okay, they had lots of support, but they took out a lead ship in two shots! They put a massive hole in a really really solid wall. And there is no gatehouse where there used to be one!"
I like that he was included to show that there are mid-level people legitimately freaking out out there, not just all these super controlled rulers in charge at the top.
Reluctantly, he had to admit that even he had not realised the Tellar songweavers had grown to such strength. It was easy to underestimate them, hidden behind their veil of incompetent management and backwater townships.
*wince* It only hurts because it's true.
"Thank you, Douglas," she smiled at her husband. "Would you fancy a trip, my love? Accompanied, of course, but those Sartierans might perceive your presence as sufficient honour, no?"

Although men were not rated particularly highly in Khironex society, her role required knowledge of other nations' customs, and she understood how to use those to her benefit from time to time. Such as sending her husband to a nation who allowed genders equal access in all matters.

"Of course, Serenity," he said meekly.
Oh dear, we just rated an envoy.

I think Oneiros and Macchiato have figured out what to do with all the extra Influence we thought we might be getting. *laughs*

How fascinating. A distant relation, sending Levar on an expeditionary mission had been more to get him out of the way than for any real purpose. The boy did go on so.
*snickers* He did talk a lot, didn't he?
Teuv
The world might have forgotten all that had occurred except that Teuv had been pushed back, but the gods do not. Brothers and Sisters united, they surely would triumph when they tried again. There yet remained disagreement on tactics, but their missionaries and Renmi were proving useful, and the new information that now reached them of the exact strength of Sartier was critical.

In the mist-shrouded halls of Teuv, Bragati, self-proclaimed god of bravery and luck, massaged the old wound in his side and made plans. Soon.
Buddy, you better stay on Teuv unless you want us to make the thread title and tags literal.

(...is that old wound from the previous war?)
Does this mean Sonissimo will finally be paying the tithe? (Pay the tithe, Hana! *shakes fist* We want that money!)
To be honest, we don't really want her to pay the tithe quite yet because they'd also then force us to pay for the Royal Navy and turn control back over, which IIRC would be a net negative on income.

Longsword-master; "This weapon is now fully understood by this person." - +1 C, +1 to Combat Bonus when using this Weapon
Just checking that this is accurate, given earlier post of:
'Weapon'-Master is +1 C base, and an additional +3 C when using that weapon in battle.

...yeah, Lucas Capo really is a scary dude.
 
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but I'm not sure you can call yourself the god of luck when you ended up a wound in your side. Or was it luck that he only got a wound instead of being killed outright?

Probably grants luck as his big thing.

(...is that old wound from the previous war?)

It'd almost have to be, because, you know, you apparently need magic to fight gods.

wait self proclaimed, what were the nature of the gods again

Welll, way earlier we got...

Briefly, the theory behind the Teuvian gods and Sartieran magic (I'm about to ruin all the wonder here) and the magic all over the world of Sartier actually goes something like this: All over the world, magic is present. In its raw form, it's exactly the same everywhere. How it consolidates and what it becomes, however, is subject to all sorts of other factors. In Teuv, the magic came together and took on the form of their gods. In Sartier, it flowed into their music and became a part of that. This isn't knowledge that Teuv or Sartier really has or understands although some of the other nations have ideas around this.

In other words, the Teuv gods, having not existed at the dawn of time or been made by an over-god to mandate roles, would kinda be self-proclaimed by default, now wouldn't they?
 
For Sonissimo... well, I can see why they'd have Hana foster with Evelyn over Alana, considering that Evelyn was the Concerto even back then, Hana's probable position as future Marshall (so hang out with the martial + magic house), and whether you'd really want a possible future Symphony candidate influenced by Capo. Capo probably 'wins' the mutual-influence / hook there, and given the chatter thus far on Alana vs. Raoul, Alana's probably more dangerous in that respect.

Surprised that Avery didn't foster with Raoul. Seems like good politics to have done so - one to each Great House with the Concertos.

Probably worth remembering that Sonissimmo and Capo really don't like each other. Like a lot. So that was probably a factor.


Heh. So this would be the meet with Khironex option - except visa versa. I wonder if that option is now grayed out because Khironex took the first step.
Technically they haven't taken the first step yet, they're just talking about it <.<.

:lol Perfect usage of phrase here... I love it.
Why thank you, I was wondering if anyone would notice it :3

Ooooo. I want that. Hey - maybe this is part of the upgrade for our Harperknights
Something something different strokes (of magic) for different folks.


Nice purview, dude. I'm serious - that is a cool choice, but I'm not sure you can call yourself the god of luck when you ended up a wound in your side. Or was it luck that he only got a wound instead of being killed outright?
This.

Trolling your subordinates and relatives, the true purview of rulers everywhere?
There's a massive difference in their respective Chiv/Dread scores and let's just say this is how Hana expresses her feelings on the matter.

I like that he was included to show that there are mid-level people legitimately freaking out out there, not just all these super controlled rulers in charge at the top.
But that's what being on top's all about :rofl:

(...is that old wound from the previous war?)
Yup.

Probably grants luck as his big thing.
Kinda both? Bad look if you're the god of luck and you don't have any >.>

In other words, the Teuv gods, having not existed at the dawn of time or been made by an over-god to mandate roles, would kinda be self-proclaimed by default, now wouldn't they?
That. Also because they did get to choose what they were gods of so that was also self-proclaimed.
 
Probably worth remembering that Sonissimmo and Capo really don't like each other. Like a lot. So that was probably a factor.

Wait, really? I didn't realize that. I thought the beef between Capo and Sonissimo was the Tarrant-Antilles squabble and any enmity between the two was just the usual jockeying of position between Great Houses.

Although, on second thought, that makes a lot of sense given each House's general attitude toward sneakiness.

Huh. Interesting. And I guess it makes a lot more sense why Capo backed Tellar given their view on Sonissimo and Tellar. Capo would be the type to want to be the power behind the throne and forgot that Tellar is also a Great House for a reason.
 
Although, on second thought, that makes a lot of sense given each House's general attitude toward sneakiness.

... Capo would be the type to want to be the power behind the throne and forgot that Tellar is also a Great House for a reason.
Both of these things are true.

But yeah, just look at the strengths and weaknesses of Capo and Sonissimmo and that should pretty much tell you exactly why they don't like each other.
 
Plan chivalry.

[X][CASTLE] Raze - Tidespray will be destroyed

I do think we could afford it, but I don't want to have another action that we need to spend on this.
And I really don't like to give khironex the base, because even if we are allies now that might not be true in the future.

[X][SHIPS] - Other - Write in: Plan A, except Warriors are split appropriately between Tellar Minors, Capo, and Thanh, and the most damaged Lord will be given to the Royal Navy for study.


edit: changed my ship plan to give a lord to the royal navy.

[X][PIRATES] - Pardon Them

now I know that this option risks getting 1- relations, but the way I see it the pirates already lost all their ships and thats what really hurts. and this options gives us a chance to get more influence which really made it the choice for me.

[X][HEROES] - Pardon Them

could be swayed to ransom them but, getting less pressure is nice and hopefully it will open a dialogue in the future.
but im not too attached so I can be persuaded to switch it.

edit: first time making a plan here so tell me if something seems weird.
 
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edit: first time making a plan here so tell me if something seems weird.
I don't really agree with it but I don't see anything glaringly wrong. If you're sticking with your vote, you may consider adding one of the ship refinements we've settled on like making sure the Royal Navy gets a Lord.

As for Khironex getting the castle, well, they are a natural ally against Tranquility and probably one against Teuv. And getting +Relations with them (guaranteed +1 with a okay shot at +2) helps solidify that. Putting the castle in their hands is also closest to our coast, so my other thought was that if Khironex holds it, that may also help foster sea trade between the nations. @OneirosTheWriter How close is the island to their nearest holdings? Is Sartier closer? I recall your prelim notes were that the island imported from Tranquility before for food. Could they decide to import from us (assuming friendly relations hold) instead of shipping in from where their mainland is?
 
On a line between Sartier and Khironex, it's about 25% from Sartier, plus a little way south. So like, two days east, one day south.

Khironex still is interested in it mainly because it's a great place to either defend or attack the arterial Khironex-Gambier trade route.
 
Is Khironex willing to agree to some rights? In particular, it'd be nice if the Royal Navy could get free / guaranteed docking rights when they swing around the Sartier island. Maybe a very small percentage of trade fees or whatever is passed onto Sartier and limited to no tariffs on our merchants trading there, especially if we end up supplying the town with provisions give proximity.
 
Oh, that also reminds me. Given that the last time Tellar expanded our navy, Carlisle and Sonissimmo immediately did so as well, do we think they'll be likely to say "oh hell" and expand again after this windfall of Corsairs->Oboes?
 
In particular, it'd be nice if the Royal Navy could get free / guaranteed docking rights when they swing around the Sartier island.
This would seem to me to fall under this...

The Royal Navy isn't really interested in offshore bases as their remit is pretty Sartier focused. And, um, Antonia would blanch a little at Sonissimo establishing an island base that opens up the entire south-east of Sartier to their forces.

Also known as something our House doesn't want
 
eh I just don't really like the idea of another power having a base to attack us from that close even if they are friendly right now. but im not 100% against it, and il change my ship option in a sec.

The big thing about my plan that I really would like to see happening is the chivalry stuff.
And that is most because it will both lower the pressure and maybe give us another influence point, + maaaybe give us an option to open a dialogue with tranquility later. But that is a pipe dream that I realise probably won't happen.
 
Oh, that also reminds me. Given that the last time Tellar expanded our navy, Carlisle and Sonissimmo immediately did so as well, do we think they'll be likely to say "oh hell" and expand again after this windfall of Corsairs->Oboes?
That isn't something that you have definitive information on...


Antonia: "Don't honestly know. Luna?"
Luna: "Well, they did last time... Hamid?
Hamid: "I haven't heard anything. They have more money and reasons to keep abreast, so, maybe?"
Juan: "Carlisle got hit by pirates again this year, so they would probably build no matter what we do."
 
Is Khironex willing to agree to some rights?
Well considering their reaction to the battle at Nune Reef, it's certainly possible they'll be more amenable than they might previously have been?

eh I just don't really like the idea of another power having a base to attack us from that close even if they are friendly right now. but im not 100% against it, and il change my ship option in a sec.

The big thing about my plan that I really would like to see happening is the chivalry stuff.
And that is most because it will both lower the pressure and maybe give us another influence point, + maaaybe give us an option to open a dialogue with tranquility later. But that is a pipe dream that I realise probably won't happen.
They're pirates <.< I think the real question here is if you actually want to open a dialogue with them >.>
 
That isn't something that you have definitive information on...


Antonia: "Don't honestly know. Luna?"
Luna: "Well, they did last time... Hamid?
Hamid: "I haven't heard anything. They have more money and reasons to keep abreast, so, maybe?"
Juan: "Carlisle got hit by pirates again this year, so they would probably build no matter what we do."
Evelyn: Hana's okay, but Blake still hates us so he'd probably make it happen just to spite us. But maybe Hana would stop it since she's technically his boss?
Charlie: Maybe Ethan could do something *hair twirl*
 
Oh, @OneirosTheWriter @Macchiato, should there be any relation gains for the Tellar Minors, either by default or as part of the ship options? Way back when when picking forces it was noted they might have actually wanted the opportunity, and the battle did go well. And for the ships, that should be cheaper still than buying Flutes on their own for the Houses that'd get awarded ones.
 
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