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People are seriously over exaggerating how long we need before we're ready to start making the super Golem. As it stands we just need to do the Movement of things research and find a good combo for it. That's 2 turns worth of work.

1st turn would be all actions into research getting it to 6/8. 2nd turn would be 2 actions into research finishing it and 3 actions into finding a good combo.

After that we're ready to build it which would take a single turn. So three turns in total.
That was one option. As I noted we could do it in 3-4 turns, though I was assuming we'd spend 3 actions on the Movement of Things spread across two turns, leaving actions to work on combos or other things as needed and finishing it on the second turn. Then start work on the Gronti's body on the second turn, the design phase, then finish it on the third turn. That's eminently possible.
 
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You know at the rate we are going right now in about 100 years or 10 turns we might have to start churning out Runed weapons for every warrior because with the Advent of Chaos that might be needed just to make the Northern Dwarf holds survive.
 
1) Would adding a Talisman using the Master Rune of Waking on top of a Gronti improve it in anyway? Noticed that it said that it is in fact an improved version and you did mention some runes can combo with others.

1. On its own? No. With other Runes along with it ?????????
So this seems to imply that we can in fact further upgrade the Gronti with an extra Master waking rune using the Talisman variant and we can make said talisman after doing the animation research. So thinking we can just make the super gronti next turn since we can likely just upgrade it later.
 
[X] Wedding Works
-[X] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. If a specific material, 3 "Bars" per Suit
--[X] 3 actions
---[X] Adamant for Otrek
---[X] Pure Gromril with T4 Dragonhide and T4 Dragonbone for Gloin
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: Two cloaks and an amulet to be ready for the wedding of Prince Durabarr Stonehammer and Princess Orra Ironarm. All that needs to be done now is make the things. With the arrival of so much high-quality dragonhide, you've decided to use it instead of the hide you had ordered. A multi-piece project. [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn.
--[X] 2 actions
---[X] Using Elder Frostwyrm Blood for the Hailmantle Cloak
---[X] Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet

So with confirmation from soulcake that using our actions like this would have the wedding commissions and the armour commissions complete in time for the wedding. Using the elder frostwyrm blood for Gloins cloak in the hopes it kind of supercharges the rune of frost.

Another fact is with the OOC knowledge that shit really will hit the fan this turn I want Otrek and Gloin armoured up for it. If we had another turn I'd genuinely want the King in the Sky armoured up as well, because we know OOC he will be targeted soon.
 
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[X] Plan a Banner in a Decade is better than a Golem in a Century right now.
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Hide on the Cloaks and Elder Wyrm blood for the Hailmantle cloak.
-[X] [Difficult] A Higher Standard Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Bone and Elder Wyrm Hide.
-[X] C-c-combo Tester!: The format is as follows: Valaya Banner: [Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Santuary, Rune of Healing] [Cost: 1 action] 1 Action

[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold!
[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Testing!
[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
 
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Here's my plans!

[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold!
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 3 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[X] [Difficult] A Higher Standard Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 2 actions. Use Elder Wyrm Bone and Elder Wyrm Hide.

[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Testing!
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[X] [Difficult] A Higher Standard Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Bone and Elder Wyrm Hide.
-[X] C-c-combo Tester!: The format is as follows: Valiant Colossus, Gronti: [Master Rune of Awakening, Rune of Grimnir, Rune of Fortitude] [Cost: 1 action] 1 Action

[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[X] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 3 actions. Use 3 bars of Adamant for the King's Armor, Pure Gromril and Dragonbone for the Prince's armor. Use T4 Dragonhide as an underlayer in both armors.

[X] Wedding Works
 
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[X] Plan a Banner in a Decade is better than a Golem in a Century right now.
-[] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Hide on the Cloaks and Elder Wyrm blood for the Hailmantle cloak.
-[] [Difficult] A Higher Standard Pt. 2: [Cost: 1 action] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Bone and Elder Wyrm Hide.
-[] C-c-combo Tester!: The format is as follows: Valaya Banner: [Master Rune of Valaya, Rune of Santuary, Rune of Healing] [Cost: 1 action] 1 Action
You forgot X's.
 
[X] Plan For the Dragon Hold and Armor!
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 2 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks. Use T4 Elder Wyrm Bone, Pure Gromril and Hearthstones for the Amulet.
-[X] [Difficult] A Royal Panoply Pt. 2: With the runes squared away all that needs to be done is have the armour sets made. You've decided to use the Elder Wyrms hide instead of the one you've ordered. Just made good sense is all. [Cost: 2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. 3 actions. Use 3 bars of Adamant for the King's Armor, Pure Gromril and Dragonbone for the Prince's armor. Use T4 Dragonhide as an underlayer in both armors.


Edit: changed my vote
 
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[X] Plan: Good Communication
-[X] [Difficult] Dowry Pt. 2: [Cost: (3 -1) =2 actions] Productivity Like No Other will proc. Due in 1 Turn. 3 Actions. Use Elder Wyrm Blood on the Hailmantle Cloak and T4 Dragonhide for both Cloaks.
-[X] Diction Direction: [Cost: (6 -4) =2 actions] Student of the Odd will proc. 2 Actions
 
I wonder if the armor we make for the King will become Legendary or if it'll just be Epic.

Guess we'll see.
 
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