Research Shows Chimpanzees Will Cook With Ovens If Given The Chance

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Chimpanzees Would Cook if Given the Chance, Research Says
JUNE 2, 2015


Almost. Scientists found that chimpanzees have the patience and foresight to hold off on eating raw food and put it in a device that seems to cook it. By David Frank and James Gorman on Publish Date June 2, 2015.
James Gorman
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Chimpanzees have the cognitive ability to cook, according to new research, if only someone would give them ovens.

It's not that the animals are ready to go head-to-head with Gordon Ramsay, but scientists from Harvard and Yale found that chimps have the patience and foresight to resist eating raw food and to place it in a device meant to appear, at least to the chimps, to cook it.

That is no small achievement. In a line that could easily apply to human beings, the researchers write, "Many primate species, including chimpanzees, have difficulty giving up food already in their possession and show limitations in their self-control when faced with food."

But they found that chimps would give up a raw slice of sweet potato in the hand for the prospect of a cooked slice of sweet potato a bit later. That kind of foresight and self-control is something any cook who has eaten too much raw cookie dough can admire.

The research grew out of the idea that cooking itself may have driven changes in human evolution, a hypothesis put forth by Richard Wrangham, an anthropologist at Harvard and several colleagues about 15 years ago in an article in Current Anthropology, and more recently in his book, "Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human."

He argued that cooking may have begun something like two million years ago, even though hard evidence only dates back about one million years. For that to be true, some early ancestors, perhaps not much more advanced than chimps, had to grasp the whole concept of transforming the raw into the cooked.

Felix Warneken at Harvard and Alexandra G. Rosati, who is about to move from Yale to Harvard, both of whom study cognition, wanted to see if chimpanzees, which often serve as stand-ins for human ancestors, had the cognitive foundation that would prepare them to cook.

One obvious difficulty in creating an experiment was that chimps have not yet figured out how to use fire, and the scientists were wary of giving them access to real cooking devices. So the scientists hit on a method that, as they write in Proceedings of the Royal Society B, presents the chimps with "problems that emulate cooking."

"We invented this magic cooking device," Dr. Warneken explained in an interview: two plastic bowls that fit closely together with pre-cooked food hidden in the bottom tub.

When a chimpanzee placed a raw sweet potato slice into the device, a researcher shook it, then lifted the top tub out to offer the chimp an identical cooked slice of sweet potato.

It was known that chimps prefer cooked food, but it was an open question whether chimps had the patience to wait through the pretend "shake and bake" process. And, the researchers wanted to know if the animals could understand "that when something raw goes in there it comes out cooked," said Dr. Warneken.

He and Dr. Rosati, who contributed equally to the research, spent parts of two years at the Tchimpounga Chimpanzee Rehabilitation Center, a sanctuary in the Republic of Congo and ran nine different experiments, judging different cognitive capacities. The two researchers are married to each other.

The chimps showed a number of indications that, given a real cooking opportunity, they had the ability to take advantage of it. They resisted eating raw food and put it in the device, waiting for cooked food. They would bring raw food from one side of a cage to the other in order to put it in the device. And they put different kinds of food in the device.

Dr. Rosati said the experiments showed not only that chimps had the patience for cooking, but that they had the "minimal causal understanding they would need" to make the leap to cooking.

Other scientists praised the research, but the world of research on chimpanzee cognition is a small one, and many of the scientists know each other and have worked together. Brian Hare at Duke University was not involved in the research, but has worked with Dr. Warneken and was Dr. Rosati's Ph.D. adviser. Dr. Wrangham was his Ph.D. adviser.

He said in an email, "In 1999, when Wrangham proposed the cooking hypothesis, it seemed silly to some to think that the use of fire was the major impetus to convert upright chimpanzee-like creatures into the first species of humans, but this paper makes that scenario the leading hypothesis in my mind."

Dr. Laurie Santos at Yale was not involved in this project, but was Dr. Rosati's postdoctoral adviser. She said it was hard to know what chimps understood about the transition from raw to cooked food, but said similar questions could be asked about "most teenagers who are microwaving their pot pies," she said.

Whether or not chimpanzees could operate a real oven on their own — Dr. Rosati thinks they probably could — the research leaves no doubt that they have the cognitive ability to take advantage of a restaurant (bring your own potato, of course).

Correction: June 5, 2015
An article on Wednesday about research suggesting that chimpanzees have the cognitive ability to cook misstated, at one point, the surname of the Harvard anthropologist who hypothesized that cooking has driven changes in human evolution. As the article correctly noted elsewhere, he is Richard Wrangham, not Wrangell.

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It was already well known that chimpanzees were capable of trades, and the supposed cooking device described is nothing more than the chimpanzee making a trade with the researcher.
 
It was already well known that chimpanzees were capable of trades, and the supposed cooking device described is nothing more than the chimpanzee making a trade with the researcher.

True, but that true of a real oven as well. You're giving up raw ingredients for cooked ones. You simply have to understand how to do that trade.
 
Chimps aren't the only primates capable of some rudimentary food preparation.

Macaques have been observed using saltwater to wash and flavor potatoes. The innovation was first observed in a juvenile female, I believe, before it spread to the rest of her group.
 
Chimps aren't the only primates capable of some rudimentary food preparation.

Macaques have been observed using saltwater to wash and flavor potatoes. The innovation was first observed in a juvenile female, I believe, before it spread to the rest of her group.
True-but they maintain control over the sweet potatoes in question full-time, holding them rather than building a fire and putting them in it.
 
Maybe a solar oven? That seems like pretty good idea. So they can slide the food in and get used to wait times on cooked food.


My dogs and cats look at raw meat like they have no fucking clue what it is since they are so used to cooked scraps.
 
True, but that true of a real oven as well. You're giving up raw ingredients for cooked ones. You simply have to understand how to do that trade.
I disagree. Tool use and social interaction are two fundamentally different skills. I'll believe they can operate a real oven as soon as they demonstrate one actually operating a real oven.
 
I disagree. Tool use and social interaction are two fundamentally different skills. I'll believe they can operate a real oven as soon as they demonstrate one actually operating a real oven.
Except that's not what the experiment was about. It's the psychology of cooking, not the mechanics, that the chimpanzees were demonstrating.
 
How and why did humans learn cooking anyway ? We got along fine eating raw food just like any other mammal. So why stop doing what works fine?
 
How and why did humans learn cooking anyway ? We got along fine eating raw food just like any other mammal. So why stop doing what works fine?
We've been cooking since before we were humans.

There's a theory that our ability to cook meat is ONE of the factors that allowed us to evolve our great intellect.
 
We've been cooking since before we were humans.

There's a theory that our ability to cook meat is ONE of the factors that allowed us to evolve our great intellect.

In terms of nutrition would not raw food be better ? Iirc cooking destroys some of the ingredients.
 
In terms of nutrition would not raw food be better ? Iirc cooking destroys some of the ingredients.

Some of it maybe, but cooking also breaks down the food so it's easier to eat — that's actually the point. Cooked food is partially processed so it can be digested into energy in a shorter digestive tract, the energy in the food is far more easily accessible. Have you ever had a nearly raw steak compared to a cooked one? The former is chewy and incredibly difficult to eat while the latter can be cut much more easily. Instead of extra energy going towards a more robust digestive tract, cooking allowed humans to devote more energy to developing a bigger brain.

Plus there's the fact that it's simply healthier. Cooked food has significantly fewer parasites and diseases associated with it so pre-humans could get by with a less energy intensive immune system and devote that energy to growing a bigger brain. Cooking is essentially a 'cheat' that allows humans to get by on a weaker immune system and digestive tract than they 'should' have based on the size of their body and — especially — brain size.
 
Dr. Laurie Santos at Yale was not involved in this project, but was Dr. Rosati's postdoctoral adviser. She said it was hard to know what chimps understood about the transition from raw to cooked food, but said similar questions could be asked about "most teenagers who are microwaving their pot pies," she said.

Hah :)

In terms of nutrition would not raw food be better ? Iirc cooking destroys some of the ingredients.

I saw a whole interesting program on it once. Cooking may use up some, but it also makes it much easier to digest, so there's something like 15% better energy return (somewhat food dependent).
 
No, it says "
Research Shows Chimpanzees Will Cook With Ovens If Given The Chance"
and that is what I am disagreeing with.
And, as the article points out, there are plenty of humans for whom cooking is "magic box make hot-hot". They were just trying to avoid the ethical issues of potential injury to the chimps from actual cooking equipment while exploring if they were psychologically capable of the cognitive leap necessary.

If it's apes operating human devices you're interested in, there's always the orang-utans with iPads to take care of that aspect.
 
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In terms of nutrition would not raw food be better ? Iirc cooking destroys some of the ingredients.
Bioavailability.*
Or more elaborate:
Just because you put it into your body does not mean that your body absorbs all of it. You do not absorb all the calories in your food, but this also goes for vitamins, minerals etc. Your body has to break down the food to get to it's components, it does not do so perfectly. It then has to absorb the food through the intestinal walls, it does not do so perfectly either.
Cooked food is easier to break down. It is also easier to absorb, a lot of nutrients are pre-released in cooked food. This does not just go for calories, but also for vitamins and minerals. Even though you may loose some of them, the total amount you actually gain from eating is often greater than what you would gain from uncooked food. Overcooked food looses too much for no more gain, but proper cooking is a great tool to gain more out of your food.
Cooked food being easier to digest also means that your body has to perform less work for the same gain. Not only does that mean that you gain more net energy from it - but it also means that your body has to focus on digestion for a smaller amount of time. Think of a snake swallowing an animal whole - it's defenseless for quite some time. Smaller pieces would remove that issue. It's not as extreme with humans of course, but the same principle applies. Cooking helps wit that.

*I am aware that the term is originally about drugs and medication, but it works just as well for nutrition.
 
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