- Location
- New Jersey
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Renascence: A Homura Quest
- Thread starter Higure
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy Mystery
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
- Location
- The centre of the Multiverse
Homura has attracted other people to her, whose feelings she did not reciprocate.
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CompassJimbo
Where’s Your North?
- Location
- The former Rubber Capital of the World
Oh, God, Hitomi was probably attracted to Homura at some point.
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
- Location
- The centre of the Multiverse
I think the PSP game confirms that, but I want to know how many others shared Hitomi's experience.
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
Homura has attracted other people to her, whose feelings she did not reciprocate.
...there were a hell of a lot of them.
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
- Location
- The centre of the Multiverse
Ouch, I am pretty sure that there were some people who wanted to try and help her, not knowing what the problem was.(not a blue truth, but very likely to have happened.)
Meh. There's another omake I was thinking of writing, but I'm going to be gone most the rest of the day. Will just have to see how badly things derail in the update.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
I feel bad. I have two* omake concepts sitting in my head, have for months** ... and I'm not writing them. I don't know if it's because I'm lazy right now, or what, but ... I just can't make myself sit down and write them. 
*: Technically three, but I'm currently using one of them, which means that either I cut out half the omake and cliffhanger it, or I spoil things for anyone who reads my quest. I also had a fourth, I think, but I forgot what it was about.
**: Seriously, the two I'm sitting here not writing have been kicking around my head since ... November or December. I am a terrible human being.
*: Technically three, but I'm currently using one of them, which means that either I cut out half the omake and cliffhanger it, or I spoil things for anyone who reads my quest. I also had a fourth, I think, but I forgot what it was about.
**: Seriously, the two I'm sitting here not writing have been kicking around my head since ... November or December. I am a terrible human being.
Lordsservent
Servant of the one true God and SV
- Location
- The centre of the Multiverse
You should write them then, it will entertain us, and lift the guilt off your shoulders.I feel bad. I have two* omake concepts sitting in my head, have for months** ... and I'm not writing them. I don't know if it's because I'm lazy right now, or what, but ... I just can't make myself sit down and write them.
*: Technically three, but I'm currently using one of them, which means that either I cut out half the omake and cliffhanger it, or I spoil things for anyone who reads my quest. I also had a fourth, I think, but I forgot what it was about.
**: Seriously, the two I'm sitting here not writing have been kicking around my head since ... November or December. I am a terrible human being.
I feel bad. I have two* omake concepts sitting in my head, have for months** ... and I'm not writing them. I don't know if it's because I'm lazy right now, or what, but ... I just can't make myself sit down and write them.
It just happens sometimes, and it's not that bad as it could possibly be. I mean, it's about 20 months since i was able to actually type and finish the latest chapter of my fanfic, and while the concept, ideas and overall planning have come a looong way since, the stuff actually written is about 800 words, lol. Getting ideas is not that hard, making them presentable is a way more difficult, unless you're really THAT good or use more "lenient" standarts.
Considering that your quest has a LOT of ties with PMMM-verse which is a sure way to mess with writing via different mood and atmosphere, i'll say that any self-blame is a bit too subjective (keh) here.
Red Lobster | Let's Get Down to Business
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
[x] Phase 2: Dinner
-[x] Goal: Bring Nanoha up to speed on Puella Magi, while keeping everyone 'on par' in relative status.
-[x] Goal: Confirm our story with Kyouko's, to help Mami's perception that we're telling the truth
-[x] Introduce the different groups of magical girl types.
...and decide that, for the moment, you just want to eat.
The waitress stops by soon enough, and you go ahead and order the endless shrimp, because this could be a long meal. You sit back and relax, guarding you biscuits from Kyouko and talking about the kinds of things a normal person would...well, you thought so, at least, but you're not sure your companions agree.
Perhaps you shouldn't have told them Yakuza hunting stories...or maybe it was the anime? No, you're pretty sure girls your age are supposed to like anime. Maybe you should have picked something other than N.G.E.?
Recalling Sachiel, you get the feeling that might be it...you're pretty sure no one here has any issue with a little Yakuza hunt now and then.
Once the food arrives, you let Kyouko stuff herself with her first order, savoring your own, and then finally move on to more serious matters, catching Nanoha's eye.
Understanding, she nods back, "So, time for business, huh?"
"I'm afraid so. You wanted answers...I'm going to give you the dinner length version. If you want the documentary, we'll need to meet somewhere more comfortable...I think they would ask us to leave before I was done, if I tried to do that here."
Kyouko raises and eyebrow, "...you've gotta be dramatic about everything, don't you, Ribbons?"
You smile at her, "Well, I suppose we could talk about such things if you'd like...at length...over clocks. Maybe I'll even buy you some icecream, eh Kyouko-chan?"
The redhead freezes like a deer in headlights, clearly caught between simply freaking out and outright hiding.
The others stare, their gazes drifting slowly from Kyouko to yourself...and then the girl in question stands up, "...hehe, uh...I'll be right back. Y'know...gotta go hurry the cooks up."
With that, she walks away far too quickly, vanishing from sight...
...and you finally let a snicker loose. Your blood may have some interesting effects on you, but it's not like they're beyond you to imitate.
Mami just shakes her head, "...do I even want to know."
You shrug, "Long story...she'll probably realize in 3...2...1..."
"Wait."
...and that would be Kyouko behind you, staring at you in suspicion, "...you let me walk away. That's not right...yer faking it, aren't you, Ribbons."
You simply raise an eyebrow, and she sits back down in a huff, "Fine, you got me. Where'd that sense of humor come from, anyway?"
"Necessity. Now, back on topic. I suppose the best place to start is with us...Magical Girls, if you will."
You take a moment to gather your thoughts before proceeding, "Alright, let's start with the Puella Magi...girls like myself, Kyouko, and Mami. We are individuals contracted by a being known as Kyubey to fight Witches."
Nanoha nods slowly, "Witches...like that thing from yesterday?"
You start to nod, before pausing and slowly shaking your head, "I believe that was a Witch, yes...but it's not representative of Witches in general. It was too...coherent. To normal, if you will. Also...it was missing something...a certain spirituality, you might say. Witches aren't just giant monsters...they're horrors, curses. Their Barriers aren't big shiny cities...they're incomprehensible swirls of color, symbolism, and non-euclidean geometry. Even finding a Witch is usually difficult, with all of its Labryinth protecting it. What we fought yesterday was strong, but...not anything like a Witch should be."
Mami's alert now, "...what exactly happened yesterday? Kyouko mentioned a Witch, but..."
You frown, "...you remember the anime I was talking about? Neon Genesis Evangelion?"
Confusion is prominent in her expression as she answers, "...um, yes? What does that have to do with?"
"It was a giant monster out of that anime. In that anime's setting. With no Labryinth except for the city itself."
She blinks slowly, "...ah, that's...no, please, go on."
You do so, looking back towards Nanoha, "...like I was saying, we're contracted to hunt Witches. It's a simple deal. One Wish for a lifetime of battle...some of us are happy to do so, the Wish outweighing the price. Others don't realize what they're signing up for, and yet others are just not ready...casualties are far from low, although a good mentor can help avert disaster early on."
Nanoha chuckles, looking from you...to Mami...to Kyouko's unusually grim expression, and then her own smile fades away, "...you're serious. You...you just sign away your lives, and then...get used up? How long has this been...going on...?"
Kyouko frowns at that, "Hmm...uh, I'm not really sure. I mean, Kyubey's been around since Joan of Arc, I know that...little guy told me about her would make me wanna' sign up, I think. He was right, of course...to be like La Pucelle...heh. How could anyone resist?"
Mami stares, "...that long? I thought...I don't know, there weren't Magical Girl stories back then, were there? Shouldn't there be?"
You consider saying nothing. It would be easier to leave them in the dark...to let them think humanity got here on its own, and that Puella Magi are just a footnote in history...but should you keep it from them? It's not really important, in the present, but maybe it would help them understand...
[]Share Incubator History
-[]History with Humans
-[]Origin Story (...what little you know, at least...)
-[]Long Term Goal (Overcome Entropy)
[]Don't share. They don't need to know, for the moment, and you might never even need to tell them this loop.
Omegastar
fear the {CENSORED}.
'night.
- Location
- Your Native Universe
[X]Share Incubator History
-[X]History with Humans
-[X]Long Term Goal (Overcome Entropy)
Hopefully Homu can make sure she doesn't spill the beans on how the Incubators exactly plan on overcoming it.
-[X]History with Humans
-[X]Long Term Goal (Overcome Entropy)
Hopefully Homu can make sure she doesn't spill the beans on how the Incubators exactly plan on overcoming it.
She could just say that the act of becoming a magical girl decreases entropy. Or maybe the death of a witch. It would only take a small lie that's impossible to disprove unless you have prior knowledge or the incubators tell you.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
[X] Don't share. They don't need to know, for the moment, and you might never even need to tell them this loop.
You know ... if we're going to share information on the Incubators, we might as well just summon Kyubey. Mami, at least, is almost certainly going to check with him afterwards whether we say anything or not, but we might be able to have Kyouko keep an eye on her in case she starts having bad ideas. So if we decide to say anything regarding the Incubators' history with humans and their goals, he should be the one to say it - not least because any incredulity in the statements can be dealt with by him. That said, I'm rather in favor of saying it's not really relevant to the right-now issue, because this is the dinner-length version, not the documentary. Nanoha might be a little irritated, but eh. Unless she has an idea to summon TSAB in full force, there's not really anything she can do except try to help the people around her, and knowing that Incubators have been doing this for a lot longer than she's thinking isn't going to change things.
You know ... if we're going to share information on the Incubators, we might as well just summon Kyubey. Mami, at least, is almost certainly going to check with him afterwards whether we say anything or not, but we might be able to have Kyouko keep an eye on her in case she starts having bad ideas. So if we decide to say anything regarding the Incubators' history with humans and their goals, he should be the one to say it - not least because any incredulity in the statements can be dealt with by him. That said, I'm rather in favor of saying it's not really relevant to the right-now issue, because this is the dinner-length version, not the documentary. Nanoha might be a little irritated, but eh. Unless she has an idea to summon TSAB in full force, there's not really anything she can do except try to help the people around her, and knowing that Incubators have been doing this for a lot longer than she's thinking isn't going to change things.
Skarmory
Girl from the Black Lizard Planet
- Location
- Case Western Reserve University
[X]Share Incubator History
-[X]History with Humans
-[X]Long Term Goal (Overcome Entropy)
The thing is, not telling the full truth about Kyubey allows him to reveal the more unpleasant parts of it at the time of his choosing, which may or may not be a time where we can keep everyone calm and rational about it. The more we reveal, the less power Kyubey has to screw us over.
-[X]History with Humans
-[X]Long Term Goal (Overcome Entropy)
The thing is, not telling the full truth about Kyubey allows him to reveal the more unpleasant parts of it at the time of his choosing, which may or may not be a time where we can keep everyone calm and rational about it. The more we reveal, the less power Kyubey has to screw us over.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
In a restaurant with Mami, Kyouko, and Sayaka? Do we really want them reacting to that kind of reveal in public? I don't think it's something we should talk about right now, because doing so has a good chance of leading to badwrongfun.
Skarmory
Girl from the Black Lizard Planet
- Location
- Case Western Reserve University
In Japanese culture, public displays of emotion are mildly frowned upon. We can leverage that to prevent a scene in the restaurant.
Really, though, I doubt that anyone will have a severe reaction to the Incubators' true nature, so long as it doesn't include lichbomb or witchbomb.
Entropy Judge
Recurring Bouts of Misanthropy
Do you really want to count on cultural norms to keep on-edge Magical Girls from freaking out when they find out that aliens have been systematically manipulating humans for centuries-to-millennia? Or, worse, driving the emotions down in public, then freaking out later (which Mami has done, in The Different Story). It's something I'd be a bit worried about - and if we tell them later, in a more comfortable and private location, they can have the reaction that will let them relieve some stress instead of having to bottle it up.
Most of my rationale is based on what is going to be discussed and potential derails, rather than the relatively simple matter of how long Incubators have been interacting with humans. If Kyouko lets something slip, or we say something that puts us on the spot as knowing an awful lot of dark secrets that are arguably 'need-to-know,' then this meeting is in trouble. Mostly because of Mami - because she hasn't been Witch-bombed, or even Lich-bombed, she's liable to still trust Kyubey, and might contact him to cross-check our story. Which is part of why I suggested bringing him in if we were going to say anything about it anyway; we haven't told her not to trust him, and haven't really given her a good reason not to, so why shouldn't she? She isn't likely to keep any contact like that secret, but if she does, we can't really vet anything she learns.
Particularly with the plan as presented:
If Mami or Nanoha notice the phrasing, they might be smart enough to ask what we think about it. This information isn't really part of the 'official propaganda' - you have to look for it, ask Kyubey about it.
No one here is stupid. They're probably going to pick up on the oddity of Incubators having manipulated people from the shadow for millennia instead of allowing the knowledge to become more widespread; Nanoha especially is going to question this, given that she's had contact with the Bureau by now. Why children? Where are the 'adult' Magi? She's going to pick up on Homura, Kyouko, and Mami being the only ones in the area, that Homura's a newcomer, and that this is Mami's territory; combined with what we just told her:
and the knowledge that Incubators have been doing this, pretty much systematically, for the time they have, is going to lead her to ask about the oversight. She's far enough along in the Nanoha timeline to have experience with the military and bureaucracy; she isn't going to be like Kyubey's targets, most of whom simply accept what he says and don't really think about it (see: Mami). Going into the Incubators' history with humans is, I think, a bad idea. And right now, at least, it's definitely not necessary.