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[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.

Hannz said:
We can't promise to keep other MGs out of Mitakihara. There's Kyoko, Yuma and a bunch of other MGs that may or may not prove useful in hunting down Homura and defeating Walpurgis.
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Agreed, we still don't know who the Devil is exactly so we need to meet with them, one at the time, to get rid of all doubts before we do what we came to do.

If possible, we should ask Mami if those names are familiar to her and see if we can split up the search so that she can keep an eye on Homura while we go out and search for the other MG.

LostDeviljho said:
No, she sounds like Gendo.

"All according to the scenario."
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This is another issue we have to address, Oriko may be trying to get us to kill Homura so that she has the path open to kill Madoka, we need to somehow restrict her actions before they get out of hand and Kirika contracts, which would make things harder for us in the long run.

I would suggest the "keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" tactic, what is your input guys?
 
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.
[jk]...Can I try on your hat?

I'd love to see Oriko react to that.
Hannz said:
The problem here is, by keeping Oriko close, we're driving Homura back.

We've got to choose between the two.
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That is assuming that Homura would cooperate with us, which I can't see happening.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
We're blindly promising to be her personal thug, patrolling the city for signs of foreign meguca and then giving them a complimentary beatdown/boot in the ass. In the name of a plan we know absolutely nothing about.
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Another way of putting it is that we're volunteering to team up with her if anyone comes into town looking for trouble.

Bear in mind that we're from a future that makes Orwell's vision of "a boot stamping on a human face forever" look like paradise. The risk of expelling a nice meguca or two from Mitakihara is not high on our list of concerns.

akrasiel23 said:
Agreed, we still don't know who the Devil is exactly so we need to meet with them, one at the time, to get rid of all doubts before we do what we came to do.
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Pretty sure the girls you mentioned would count as "local magical girls", so my write-in wouldn't interfere with that.

...Now I come to think about it, there's a situation where (given our IC knowledge) this write-in could go bad. If the Devil were an out-of-town magical girl who was due to come to Mitakihara this month and fall in love with Madoka, our actions could lead to her being kicked out before she could meet Madoka. This would screw with the timeline in a way that Future!Devil would notice, and would prompt her to come back in time and obliterate us.

(OOC, we know this isn't an issue since the Devil is already in town. IC, this possibility should cause us some concern.)

If we go with my write-in, I'd suggest we raise this possibility with Ryubey, both to see if it's a real issue and to get a better handle on the temporal mechanics of the situation.

akrasiel23 said:
This is another issue we have to address, Oriko may be trying to get us to kill Homura so that she has the path open to kill Madoka, we need to somehow restrict her actions before they get out of hand and Kirika contracts, which would make things harder for us in the long run.
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OOC, that seems entirely possible. IC, it's about five steps beyond what Tatsuya could plausibly deduce about the situation.
 
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akrasiel23 said:
That is assuming that Homura would cooperate with us, which I can't see happening.
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We don't need to work with her, only avoid completely alienating her. We show we don't want a MadoContract and she'll stay neutral and we'll have the advantage of forcing a confrontation on our terms. If we start working with Oriko, she'll go hostile.
apeljohn said:
Bear in mind that we're from a future that makes Orwell's vision of "a boot stamping on a human face forever" look like paradise. The risk of expelling a nice meguca or two from Mitakihara is not high on our list of concerns.
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Said Nice Meguca may be of use to us.

We have no idea if Homura is really the Devil in this Quest. We need more info, and more allies to work on that info.
 
Hannz said:
We have no idea if Homura is really the Devil in this Quest. We need more info, and more allies to work on that info.
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While I'm certainly not too eager to jump on this bandwagon, hence the lack of voting so far, I'm not sure about this bit. I don't think there's any other culprit, and IIRC it's been mostly confirmed by the GM. We just don't know it IC.
 
EternalStruggle said:
While I'm certainly not too eager to jump on this bandwagon, hence the lack of voting so far, I'm not sure about this bit. I don't think there's any other culprit, and IIRC it's been mostly confirmed by the GM. We just don't know it IC.
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Has it?

As far as I know, it's just Rex teasing/misleading us by entertaining a theory. Unless the GM directly confirms it, I'm not going to make assumptions on the Devil's identity.
 
EternalStruggle said:
And the problem with this is? That's mission accomplished right there.
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The problem is that we don't know yet if Oriko really intends to hurt Madoka or not.

Hannz said:
We don't need to work with her, only avoid completely alienating her. We show we don't want a MadoContract and she'll stay neutral and we'll have the advantage of forcing a confrontation on our terms. If we start working with Oriko, she'll go hostile.
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True, though the moment Tatsuya notices that Homura's sole objective revolves around Madoka he will identify her as the Devil.

Said Nice Meguca may be of use to us.

We have no idea if Homura is really the Devil in this Quest. We need more info, and more allies to work on that info.
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Don't forget that the Devil may send the Clara Dolls and her armies against us, so having more possible allies is an attractive option.

EternalStruggle said:
While I'm certainly not too eager to jump on this bandwagon, hence the lack of voting so far, I'm not sure about this bit. I don't think there's any other culprit, and IIRC it's been mostly confirmed by the GM. We just don't know it IC.
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That's why we need to meet all of the MG to dispel all doubts and prevent doing a mistake and make the Devil notice us.
 
Hannz said:
Has it?

As far as I know, it's just Rex teasing/misleading us by entertaining a theory. Unless the GM directly confirms it, I'm not going to make assumptions on the Devil's identity.
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As I said, mostly. I don't think he's out and out said it's Homura, but I might be wrong about even that.
akrasiel23 said:
…Damn, Tatsuya is going to feel utterly betrayed when he realises that the same person who used to care for him eventually forgot him and left him to rot, and why not? Afterall, one could infer that Homura's attentiveness towards Tatsuya was faked, and only was nice to him to get closer to Madoka herself.

On a different note, does Tatsuya subconciously remembers Madoka's circle of friends like Sayaka, Hitomi or Mami?
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RexHeller said:
I'll Word of God somethings since it probably isn't going to come up. First is that the Devil really did care about him in the beginning as well as the rest of Madoka's family. They were more of a family to her than her own parents. Same with the other girls in the beginning. She genuinely tried to make them happy as well as Madoka. But over time the Devil's mind deteriorated and her obsession with Madoka grew and slowly all other things ceased to matter. After a hundred years even Madoka's own happiness isn't important to her, only that she has Madoka with her.

On the second thing: of Madoka's friends Tatsuya only has vauge memories of Sayaka, Hitomi and the Devil. he'll recognize Hitomi if he meets her and he already recognized Sayaka but he will never actually recognize the earlier version of the Devil for gameplay reasons. .
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The closest to a direct confirmation are these posts, where someone says it's Homura and Rex doesn't correct in any way. He does, however, only refer to her as the Devil,s o theoretically you have a point.

But let's be real, it's going to be Homura. There just aren't any possible alternatives. Literally none, I think.
 
Hannz said:
As far as I know, it's just Rex teasing/misleading us by entertaining a theory. Unless the GM directly confirms it, I'm not going to make assumptions on the Devil's identity.
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Well, in-character it certainly isn't something we know, and that's arguably the more important thing. That said, I'm not particularly seeing the value in giving up an alliance with Oriko on the vague hope that future interlopers might conceivably have useful skills. A bird in the hand...

akrasiel23 said:
The problem is that we don't know yet if Oriko really intends to hurt Madoka or not.
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But Tatsuya has no reason to even suspect that Madoka might be at risk. Whatever Oriko is planning, his sister is clearly at no greater risk than any other citizen of Mitakihara, amirite?
 
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.

apeljohn said:
Another way of putting it is that we're volunteering to team up with her if anyone comes into town looking for trouble.

Bear in mind that we're from a future that makes Orwell's vision of "a boot stamping on a human face forever" look like paradise. The risk of expelling a nice meguca or two from Mitakihara is not high on our list of concerns.
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The first argument you make implies that we're so neighborly and cooperation-minded that we'll happily risk our safety in order to do somebody else's work for them - so therefore we should work Oriko.

Your second argument claims that we'd have no problem beating up random meguca because we're a hardened, soulless survivor worthy of Apokolips - so therefore we should work with Oriko.

Que?

Regardless, my problem here is that you say "promise".

Not "we'll consider it", not "we'll try", but "we promise to help".

You're advocating that we shackle ourselves to Oriko's enterprise in a socially binding fashion, even though we have no good reason to do so IC or OoC. We haven't even seen the large print on this contract yet, but you're already champing at the bit for us to sign, and I don't find your arguments for doing so to be convincing.
 
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.
 
I'm thinking of changing the update so that it stops before you ask to join forces. It just seems really awkward that you would go "Wanna team up?" "Sure." "Actually I changed my mind, let me ask some more questions first." Would anyone mind that?
 
Hyp3rB14d3 said:
[x] ...Can I try on your hat?
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Brilliant! She'll never see it coming!:D;):rolleyes:
[x] Confusion Tactic: ...Can I try on your hat?
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.
 
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.
 
[x] Confusion Tactic: ...Can I try on your hat?
[X] "What's this 'unfolding scenario' and why are you so keen to see it play out?"
-[X] Depending on her answer, ask follow-up questions to determine the likely winners and losers from Oriko's scenario.
[X] Perhaps.
-[X] Ask for a way to contact her besides Kyubey. We'll get back to her with an answer tomorrow, give or take.
 
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