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  • [x] You've been thinking about how to deal with troublemakers in the future, and want their opinions.
    -[x] Magical girls don't have laws, police, or courts. Should that change? How? When? You don't want to start making decrees.
    -[x] With an influx of gucas, maybe some punishments other then imprisonment, for lesser offences? Community service? Financial recompensation?
    -[x] Crimes are very often caused by psychological issues, which aren't rare amongst megucas. You'd like to try to rehabilitate whoever you can. So... therapy?
    [x] You'll need increased monitoring of Mitakihara, too. You've got some ideas for Mami's magic, but direct scouting by Sayaka's clones would also be helpful.
    -[x] Deputize some of the incomers newcomers if they're trustworthy and willing to help?
    [x] Eventually, you'd like to involve more adults with the Shizukis' help. Legal experts, therapists...
    -[x] And at some point, if Sayaka's okay with it, the Mikis.
    [X] Apologize for ruining the moment.
    [X] Share you want to talk about creating a justice/law/policing system for meguca. A fair one based on rehabilitation, not punishment.
    -[X] But that would be stalling right now.
    [X] You need to talk about what to do with O&K.
    -[X] What do they want to happen? At lenght?
    -[X] Talk about problems with the House Arrest:
    --[X] Its foundation; psychological harm; long term viability.
    --[X] Hiding the truth from the Mikis and the Kures. Oriko confessing her crime to them.
    -[X] What you feel needs to happen.
    --[X] Oriko's at a turning point. Whether she ends up good or bad depends on our actions.
    -[X] You're asking them for permission to expand O&K's freedom.
    -[X] Compromise. Any progress is good.
    --[X] Surveillance measures.
    ---[X] Optional: Sayaklone guard?
    --[X] Optional: Relocation (under Yuki?).
    [X] Apologize for ruining the moment. This could get heavy.
    [X] Goals, in order:
    -[X] Keep the discussion productive and positive, if serious.
    -[X] Discuss ways matters of meguca justice.
    -[X] Find out, and engage with, Homura and Sayaka thoughts.
    -[X] Push for rehabilitation.
    -[X] Focus on exploring the topics. True decision-making can wait a vote.
    [X] Potential Topics:
    - [X] With so many refugees with their own problems, we could have more events like Asunaro. How do we handle that?
    -- [X] Magical girls don't have laws, police, or courts. Should that change? How? When? You don't like making decrees.
    -- [X] Can we ask refugees to lend aid in solving these problems.
    - [X] How to treat out-of-town troublemakers, like Iowa.
    - [X] The elephant in the room. Oriko.
    -- [X] House arrest doesn't strike you as viable in the long term. What should the end goals be? Restitution?
    -- [X] Worries over possible psychological harm from confinement.
    -- [X] You'd like to talk alternatives: Relocation, surveillance, restricted freedom with chaperones/tracking devices? Sayaklones?
    - [X] Non-guca involvement in guca justice:
    -- [X] Hiring professional help with the Shizuki's or other's aid. Legal experts and therapists both sound useful.
    -- [X] Family. How to treat affected family of both victims and perpetrators.
    [X] Never mind.
    [X] Discuss O&K with Sayaka and Homura:
    -[X] Respect their feelings, but ask them to hear you out.
    -[X] Propose making a robust Grief Lie Detector, testing it on yourselves to make sure it works, and then having Sabrina and Homura question O&K with it, to put Homura's fears to rest.
    -[X] Clarify to Sayaka Oriko's original intentions with the arson, and how her precog ensured no one would suffer lasting harm. Was still wrong, but not malicious.
    -[X] Discuss long term viability of house arrest:
    --[X] Restitution: Financial reimbursement? Continued community service? Oriko enjoyed doing good today.
    --[X] Complications: Ongoing psychological harm from confinement; Mikuni mansion; Kirika's family.
    --[X] No justice system for MGs exists. Keeping prisoners expensive and difficult. Priority must be on preventing further harm, not punishment. If we can be sure O&K won't cause more trouble if not under house arrest, we must try that route. We already did this with the Sendai team, for example, and their crimes were much worse. Also, having them attend school again will keep them busy for much of the day.
    --[X] If need be, escort them around via Sayaclone? Can she handle that? Wearable tracking devices?
    [X] Ask Mami how she hasn't blown up Mitakihara by accidentally creating antimatter tea.
    -[X] Take notes.
    [X] Telepathy Masami & Hiroko about Ono and Kuroki.
    [X] Try to transform the enchnated rock into ice cube? A candle? Imagine strongly
    [X] Speak with Mami, Homura about hiring therapists.
    [X] Discuss Justice with Sayaka and Homura:
    -[X] Magical girls can't use mundane courts and enforcement. You don't want to unilaterally make decrees. But we are gaining criminals. Priority must be on preventing further harm, not punishment.
    --[X] Debate goals for imprisonment: Retribution, Deterrence, Incapacitation, Rehabilitation.
    --[X] We need proper justice system. Sayaka should research.
    --[X] Consult legal theorists in person.
    -[X] Respect their feelings
    --[X] Motive: Save Oriko.
    -[X] Is using Oriko to help others a form of restitution? Having them attend school again will keep them busy for much of the day.
    --[X] How to minimize risks while being good people? Magical monitoring useful? Sayaklones? Lie detector? Continued community service? Oriko enjoyed doing good today.
    --[X] Complications: Ongoing psychological harm from confinement; Mikuni mansion; Kirika's family.
    --[X] Clarify to Sayaka Oriko's arson intentions, how her precog ensured nobody would suffer physical injury.
    --[X] Compare to Sendai team incident
    -[X] Propose involving the adults, First the Shizuki's, next Miki's. Discuss onboarding.
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