Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Adhoc vote count started by Firnagzen on Nov 12, 2017 at 7:51 AM, finished with 128730 posts and 16 votes.

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  • [x] Simultaneously: Telepathy Sayaka and discuss showing up for her parents and for school. Fly a clone home? Commit hard to upcoming reveal of magic to parents?
    [x] Propose bringing Hijiri along. You're not done asking questions.
    [x] Persuade Hijiri to connect you to Yuuri. Take the opportunity to affirm her personhood and agency.
    -[x] Choices have consequences, both good and bad. Her past actions have damaged everyone's ability to trust her. She can fix that by making different choices going forward.
    -[x] Reassure her by expressing your desire to help everyone, even after they make mistakes - if nothing else, people without problems don't cause problems for others.
    -[x] Give her an opportunity to help you help her: Drop the memory thing and help you deal with Yuuri.
    [x] Get information about Yuuri.
    [x] Proceed.
    -[x] If no cooperation: Break to vote.
    -[x] Otherwise: Ask the group to let you speak to Yuuri alone. She knows dangerous things and you don't want her having everyone's brainmail address.
    [x] Gently explain to Hijiri why she can't leave. Yes, she is a real person with all the rights thereof. And when real people steal stuff and attack people, they don't get to just leave until they've made things right.
    [x] Telepathy: Ask everyone to give you some room so you can try to talk her down.
    [x] Simultaneously: Telepathy Sayaka and ask how to handle her parents waking up soon. Fly back? Send clone? Text them claiming she had an early softball practice? What about school in a few hours? Call out sick?
    [x] Therapy-ize Hijiri a bit.
    -[x] Like any person, Hijiri's choices have consequences. What she did damaged people's ability to trust her. But it's still possible to win that trust back.
    -[x] Help her feel safer by expressing your desire to help everyone, including people that've made bad choices and interfered with other people's peaceful lives.
    -[x] Give her an easy opportunity, let her help you help her: Let go of the memory thing. It's not doing her any good now: everyone knows where she is and Niko's clearly immune to it. All it's doing is preventing you from helping her.
    -[x] If successful, ask about Yuuri and what exactly happened between them.
    [X] Muramasa
    [X] Telepathy everyone present except Hijiri. Going over it, Hijiri's actions and stated motives are about as compatible with each other as 2 + 2 = 7. Provide relevant details; either a lot of important stuff is being glossed over or there's some sort of mental influence involved. Best to not make judgements before that possibility is ruled out.
    [X] Out loud: We need to get after Airi. Hijiri is making a mistake in her reasoning: she is not free to go because she has gone from contract to home invasion and burglary in what sounds like a space of days. She will have ample opportunity to convince people that she isn't a thug, and you're sure that if she succeeds she will be able to leave. Meanwhile, you will guarantee her safety, as you would for anyone else.
    [X] Question Hijiri on the chain of events leading to Niko's lab and her motives during it while searching for Airi. Point out any & all inconsistencies. See post for observed inconsistencies so far.
    [x] Simultaneously: Telepathy Sayaka and discuss her morning plans. Fly a clone home? Commit to revealing magic to parents?
    [x] Propose bringing Hijiri along. You're not done asking questions.
    -[x] Move discussion away from emotional overreactions to logical reasoning on an appropriate and rational punishment/response to Hijiri's actions.
    [x] Affirm Hiriji's personhood and agency.
    -[x] Literary quote: "No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based."
    -[x] All choices have consequences. Hijiri's past actions have damaged everyone's ability to trust her. She can fix that by making different choices going forward.
    -[x] Reassure her by expressing your desire to help everyone, even after they make mistakes - if nothing else, people without problems cause fewer problems for others.
    -[x] Give her an opportunity to help you help her: Dropping the memory thing, and helping you deal with Yuuri.
    [x] Ask for information about Yuuri. What is her power, what are her goals, what is she like as a person? ... Why trust her?
    -[x] Ask for a telepathy link. Ask to speak alone due to infohazard. Regardless of result, break for voting.
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