Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Adhoc vote count started by defenestrator on Nov 6, 2017 at 10:21 AM, finished with 128340 posts and 28 votes.

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  • [X] "It's not Niko I'm worried about right now, it's the person she's treating like a thing."
    [X] Intervene.
    [X] Get rid of memory device. Physically separate. Stay between them. Cleanse.
    [X] To Niko:
    -[X] What you're doing is wrong. Hitting someone who can't do anything about it, otherwise your friends might beat them down? In what world is that acceptable? Is that the sort of person you want to be? You want her to be happy, and you do this?
    -[X] She isn't you. She's her own person, and she's scared to death of you, enough to get caught up in all... this. Is that what you want?
    [X] Stand your ground, observe.
    -[X] Calmly, out loud but quiet: Saki is not aware of the full context here. Certainly Niko can "handle herself," but Niko and Hijiri misunderstand each other in a way that makes this volatile and toxic. You're not leaving until you're certain that Hijiri isn't going to end up in a grief spiral.
    [X] Short update; break at any point where Niko says or does something really not okay to Hijiri (or potentially vice versa) -- crying, threats, Niko ordering Hijiri to do something, Niko getting physical again, etc are all really not okay.
    -[X] Break by immediately stepping in; forcibly separate the two if you have to.
    [x] Null
    [x] Don't even dignify Saki with a response. If she doesn't see how wrong she is, it's not worth it.
    [x] Brainmail Kazumi: "Hopefully be with you in a few but things are way toxic down here and we've let it go too far already."
    [x] Enlist Mami and Sayaka's help to separate them and deescalate. Again. Jerry Springer is not a model to emulate!
    -[x] Fuck it, Sayaka, antimagic. This paranoia over memory bullshit and what precisely the device does has gone far too long. It can be rebuilt.
    -[x] Quiet down, don't make me get the spray bottle.
    -[x] Saki will probably interfere more insistently. "I'm sure you mean well, Saki, but I will NOT allow this to become a lynching."
    [X] Telepathy Saki and Kazumi: Niko just hit a defenseless prisoner, is verbally abusing her and treating her like an object. This is bad for both Hijiri and Niko.
    -[X] Ask for help in calming down the Kannas and helping solve this civilly.
    -[X] If they won't help, apologize, but you can't just let abuse happen.
    [X] Let some of your conflict through and call out Niko.
    -[X] Be disappointed: Same points made to Saki and Kazumi.
    [X] Hijiri: She might've done something wrong, but she has feelings just like anyone else. She deserves to be treated humanely.
    -[X] Ask her to give up the Privacy Device: It's not helping her.
    -[X] We want to help both of them. Ask Hijiri to let you mediate.
    [X] Send in the chibis - All the chibis! Even Chibis of Meguca we have yet to meet.
    -[X] Have them hug every Niko they see.
    [X] No, slapping and yelling doesn't end well. And we're not leaving them alone, that's a recipe for evil-clone shenanigans.
    [X] Interject, tell Hijiri that created doesn't mean "fake" and argue the point briefly.
    -[X] Niko and Hijiri are scientists. Empiricism, then: What is the observable difference? Hijiri can't tell that you woke up in an alley with no memories and a giant hole in your chest not three weeks ago, you can't tell that Hijiri is anything but normal.
    [X] Break to voting after seeing the reactions to that line.
    [X] Telepathy Mami to be ready to restrain Saki if necessary; brush her off with the utility fog.
    [X] "It's not Niko I'm worried about right now, it's the person she's treating like a thing."
    [X] Intervene.
    [X] Physically separate. Cleanse.
    -[X] Warn Hijiri that this exact brand of horseshit is dangerous for her; if she won't step away from the device so that we can cleanse her, we'll have to take it from her.
    [X] Talk down Kazumi first, then the Kannas; this is absolutely unacceptable.
    [X] Keep your anger as contained as you can manage.
    [X] "It's not Niko I'm worried about right now. Hijiri's afraid she's being treated as an extension of Niko, as an object, and Niko is playing into that fear."
    [X] Intervene.
    [X] Separate the two of them. Deescalate.
    - [X] If Niko objects, give her your reasons for intervening. Both personally, as pertains to what exactly she's doing and practically.
    - [X] Try to calm Hijiri down. Regardless of what she's done she has feelings just like anyone else. She deserves to be treated humanely.
    - [X] Offer the two of them a choice, you can have someone mediate this discussion civilly, or put it off and interrogate Hijiri a to give her a chance to prove her bonafides.
    [X] Convince Hijiri to give up the memory field. Even as a bargaining chip, it's worse than useless to her at the moment. Offer her collateral if you must.
    [X] Cleanse.
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