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  • [x] Kaizuki
    [X] There's a lot less of an issue with her hanging out than she thinks there is. Nobody really has an issue with her - not even Mami.
    -[X] Mami's issues aren't with Kyouko. Mami's main problem is her massive and repeatedly exacerbated abandonment issues. As far as you can tell, when it comes to that night, Mami wishes she'd told Kyouko that her door would always be open instead of trying to force her to stay.
    [X] Kyouko thinks you're here just because you're that much of a bleeding heart. But truthfully the only one who has a problem with Kyouko is Kyouko. The only person who believes for a moment that she's condemned is her.
    [x] There is no problem with you hanging out with the rest of my friends. Mami for one would jump for joy if you came back.
    [X] Wait until the great bubble debacle is over. Help if neccessary.
    [X] When you are alone again:
    -[X] So she's asking what she can do in return. Repeatedly. Heh, guess you're not the only one with a bleeding heart in the room, not that you didn't know.
    -[X] Can you punch her for making your girlfriend sad and lonely?
    --[X] ... Is that what she wanted to hear?
    -[X] The problem with having knowledge of private things is that you've taken their privacy away without consent or giving anything in return. You are uncomfortable with that.
    --[X] You're even more uncomfortable with her defeatist attitude. Plough on.
    ---[X] You know what she said and what she did. You know why she said and did what she did.
    ---[X] It was selfish and self-destructive, making Mami hurt to hurt herself. Get over it.
    -[X] The one thing you want from her is to stop punishing herself, to stop being a coward and get on with the rest of her life.
    --[X] Fix what she can, and let go of what she cannot. You both know where their with Mami issues lie. This is your price. Does she still think it's too small?
    [X] Roll things back a bit, you're worried you may be being pushy and inconsiderate... again: Ask Kyouko if she's insistent because she feels obligated to return the favor, or if helping us is something wants to do. You don't want obligation, but you could accept Kyouko doing things because she wants to.
    -[X] Part of your problem accepting things from her thinking they're her obligation is that the things you could ask are also things you have no right to ask. Ever.
    [X] You don't think Kyouko knows this, but if she were to just show up on Mami's doorstep tomorrow and say nothing at all, the reception she'd get from Mami would be this: repeated, tearful apologies mixed with offers of food and friendship, and possibly also housing. Mami has no problem with her whatsoever.
    -[X] In response to Kyouko disbelieving: Mami has no problem with Kyouko. Mami's problem is her massive and repeatedly exacerbated abandonment issues. At one point, you accidentally convinced Mami that you were breaking ties with her, and promptly ended up in a ribbon cocoon -- and you weren't even transformed. The only thing you've ever heard from Mami on the topic is how much she regrets what she did that last night -- and based on everything you know about her, the sentiment there is that she wishes she'd told Kyouko that her door would always be open instead of trying to force her to stay.
    --[X] If it becomes relevant: "Mami tried to kill Kyouko that night" is a false statement.
    [X] Kyouko thinks you're out here saying all this stuff to her because you're a saint or somesuch, preaching about how everyone deserves redemption no matter who they are. But the fact of the matter is, there is literally only one person who has a problem with Kyouko, and that's Kyouko. The only person who believes for a moment that she's condemned is her.
    [X] ... You're sorry about what you said about housing.
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