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  • [X] Promise agree to end the meeting. Because you're sick of it, not because she's asking.
    [X] But first:
    -[X] Call her out. On everything. Trying to use magic on you, threatening you, baiting you, arriving unnanounced, everything.
    --[X] Use this.
    -[X] Get her to agree to concessions, as many as you can get:
    --[X] Priority: Arrange another meeting before she leaves (morning?).
    --[X] She'll stay confined within this room for the duration of her stay.
    --[X] She'll answer questions, now or at that later meeting, about:
    ---[X] Our Soul.
    ---[X] Clear Seeds.
    ---[X] Wish Rejection.
    ---[X] The Feather.
    ---[X] How the fuck is her name spelled.
    [X] Once Riona agrees to everything you can get her to, warn her to not try that again and dismiss the Privacy Field.
    -[X] Let Mami know before you dismiss the Field.
    -[X] Watch out in case Riona tries to pull something.
    [X] Get out. Timestop meeting. Mami hugs.
    -[X] Get Sayaka, Oriko and Kirika. This is important.
    -[X] Ask Kirika to make Anti Magic Enchantments for our group's use while you talk.
    -[X] Explain everything that can be explained about what just happened.
    [x] Internally, mentally:
    -[x] Calm down. Channel some of that "excellent actress" Kyuubey accused you of being to avoid showing Rionna your internal strife.
    -[x] Rionna might be refusing to "give up" her sisters shade. You need to work around that.
    -[x] If her sister is a shade, she might be denying the ethical implications of her actions to protect her own psyche.
    [x] Externally, to Rionna.
    -[x] Address her "giving up what I have" line. You don't want to take things away. What you want is to provide her - everyone - with what they need for more humane approaches to flourish.
    --[x] Would she really keep souls trapped if, by her own judgement, it became unnecessary?
    -[x] You want Rionna to stop killing people. There's other ways to stop those that abuse magic. And you'd like to examine her shades, and see if they're suffering.
    -[x] Carefully, to avoid the potential sister trigger, try and get across that if she has shades she's maintaining for personal reasons, or hopes to revive, you'd be happy to help.
    [X] Potential secondary topics, at brinapilots discretion:
    -[X] De-Witching.
    --[X] Let Riona examine Aurora.
    --[X] Explain your experiments so far.
    -[X] Ask after her powers.
    --[X] What does your Soul look like?
    -[X] Wish rejection: describe Oriko's symptoms.
    -[X] Show Rionna the Feather, ask if there's anything unusual about it.
    [x] Plan:
    -[x] She'd be unwilling to give up her sister's shade and you think she might be equally unwilling to reveal that she has it.
    -[x] You'll make a stab in the dark about her power's origin and use it as grounds for giving her a way out.
    -[x] Make an offer that would let her keep her sister's shade without talking about it.
    -[x] Note that, if she is holding her sister's shade, she's likely denying the ethical implications of her actions out of self-defense.
    [x] She won't release her wraiths now, fine. And you won't deny her her home or safety. But would she really keep those souls trapped if it became unnecessary?
    [x] You want Rionna to stop murdering people, and if any of her shades are suffering you want that stopped.
    [x] But. But. You can't think of many ways a girl gets a power like Rionna's.
    [x] If there are any shades that she needs to keep, and she doesn't want to explain who they are or why she needs them... you won't ask questions, and she'll have full access to your research network.
    [x] Does that sound like what she needs?
    [X] Show her the Clear Seed. Explain what she's seeing: the sheer capacity, the quiescent nature of the witch, the way it absorbs hope magic.
    -[x] And this is just a stopgap measure to keep everyone's gem clean while we create a real solution.
    [x] If she wants cleansing and dewitching, then the only way that it's going to be possible is by working with us.
    -[x] As she's said, everybody's tried but nobody's been able to... until now.
    --[x] And if there's something else she wants, we can make that possible, too.
    ---[X]No guarantees, obviously, we're powerful not omnipotent, but we can't negotiate when any attempt at finding out what she actually wants is stonewalled with variations of "None of your business/not giving up my power/your soul", the latter of which she has to know isn't going to happen.
    [X] Let her go, on the stipulation that she not harm anyone in Mitakihara
    [X] Call Mami for an emergency timestop meeting.
    [X] On timestop, make sure the whole group (Homura, Mami and Sayaka) is in the meeting
    [X] Discuss the situation in timestop with Homura, Mami, and Sayaka.
    [x] Fine. Release the isolation field.
    [x] Tell Riona you regret that she wasn't able to find what she was searching for here.
    [x] Given the circumstance, while it's regrettable, I agree it's best that you leave Mitakihara at your earliest convenience. Further I must insist that you don't create anymore shades in our city for any reason or I'm afraid conflict will be unavoidable. That said, wish her a good night.
    [x] Leave with Mami. You're done here.
    [x] When you're out a considerable range from Riona, contact Homura by phone for a timestop meeting. Update Homura and Mami of the situation. You weren't able to come to any agreement with Riona. Bring up Riona's intentions to leave in the morning and threat assessment. Avoid social bombs.
    [x] Show her the Clear Seed. Explain what she's seeing: the sheer capacity, the quiescent nature of the witch, the way it absorbs hope magic.
    -[x] And this is just a stopgap measure to keep everyone's gem clean while we create a real solution.
    [x] If she wants cleansing and dewitching, then the only way that it's going to be possible is by working with us.
    -[x] As she's said, everybody's tried but nobody's been able to... until now.
    --[x] And if there's something else she wants, we can probably make that possible, too.
    [X] gem her
    [X] Sabrina-Pilot on key points
    -[X] Acknowledge that asking her to reject the powers of her Wish is a huge thing, and she probably had good reasons for it. Mention that even if our offered help witht he problem isn't enough, we still understand she might have a special shade or two she /cant/ release because its too important. Thats something we'd obviously be fine with until a better solution appears even if we reject the idea of holding other hostiles and innocents in stasis.
    -[X] If she doesn't want our help, fine, put that aside a moment. Acknowledge lack of detail to our promises. Bring out special Clear Seeds (happy-grief and quiescent ones, at least) , mention tests and ask opinion on results thus far. Is this at least any better than other attempts she's aware of? Can she at least offer that much if she doesn't want anything from us after this long trip?
    [X] Sabrina-Pilot on key points
    -[X] Acknowledge that asking her to reject the powers of her Wish is a huge thing, and she probably had good reasons for seeking such power. Mention that even if we're unable to deliver fully, we'll still understand if she has a special shade or two she /cant/ release because its too important. That's something we'd obviously be fine with until a better solution appears even if we reject the idea of holding other hostiles and innocents in stasis.
    -[X] If she doesn't want our help, fine, put that aside a moment. Acknowledge lack of detail to our promises. Bring out special Clear Seeds (happy-grief and quiescent ones, at least) , mention tests and ask opinion on results thus far. Is this at least any better than other attempts she's aware of? Can she do that at least that much considering she isn't going to get anything productive out of this trip otherwise?
    [X] Null
    [X] Become calm, offering a trade
    -[X] understand Rionna didn't expect to negotiate, get her ready for that.
    [x] Address "I'm not giving up what I have." We didn't come to her to take it.
    -[X] Supply beverage (read the body language.) Without Mami entering herself.
    -[X] Suggest that once she fully acknowledges others, her life gets better.
    --[X] Applies to everyone. Therefore, it concerns us.
    -[X] Things she can't have, like our magic, we will help her solve.
    [X] Practice using her Grief powers, learn from us. Obtain a copy of our powers with her effort.
    -[X] She came for an answer to some problem. The answer is here, it's just unexpected.
    [X] Secondary topics:
    -[X] De-Witching.
    --[X] Let Riona examine Aurora.
    --[X] Explain your experiments so far.
    -[X] Ask after her powers.
    --[X] What does your Soul look like?
    -[X] Wish rejection: describe Oriko's symptoms.
    [X] There is an Iowa Group out there. When is Rionna acting against them? Does she have any coherent policy outside her city?
    [X] We want to share her patrol against Grief Spreaders.
    [X] What is Rionna's bad opinion of us based on, anyway? Who told her we were bad?
    [X] Show Rionna the Feather,
    [X] Kill her
    [X] Promise agree to end the meeting. Because you're sick of it, not because she's asking.
    [X] But first:
    -[X] Call her out. On everything. Trying to use magic on you, threatening you, baiting you, everything.
    --[X] Use this.
    -[X] Get her to agree to concessions, as many as you can get without pissing her off too badly:
    --[X] Priority: Arrange another meeting before she leaves (morning?).
    --[X] She'll stay confined within a location of her choosing for the duration of her stay.
    --[X] She'll answer questions, now or at that later meeting, about:
    ---[X] Our Soul.
    ---[X] Clear Seeds.
    ---[X] Wish Rejection.
    ---[X] The Feather.
    ---[X] How the fuck is her name spelled.
    [X] Once Riona agrees to everything you can get her to, warn her to not try that again and dismiss the Privacy Field.
    -[X] Let Mami know before you dismiss the Field.
    -[X] Watch out in case she tries to pull something.
    [X] Get out. Timestop meeting. Mami hugs.
    -[X] Get Sayaka, Oriko and Kirika. This is important.
    -[X] Ask Kirika to make Anti Magic Enchantments for our group's use while you talk.
    -[X] Explain everything that can be explained about what just happened.
    -[X] Don't take a side. Be as impartial as possible, and do not support any course of action over another.
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