Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Adhoc vote count started by Conjured Blade on Aug 18, 2018 at 10:06 PM, finished with 169 posts and 21 votes.

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  • [X] Remain calm, be patient. You can outlast Riona's stubbornness.
    -[X] Alternate pressing main points with other topics.
    [X] Offer and get refreshments (without leaving the bubble).
    [X] Explain and reaffirm your goals:
    -[X] To help Magical Girls, to break the system.
    -[X] Your intentions when Wishing.
    -[X] People can do horrible things, when forced...
    --[X] Your goal isn't to take away Riona's power, but to give her a chance to do better.
    [X] Points to press:
    -[X] Riona won't achieve her goal by refusing help.
    --[X] If this really matters to her, she'll need to make compromises.
    -[X] Her shades are actual Souls. What she's doing is inhumane.
    --[X] You won't begrudge her keeping voluntarily given Souls.
    --[X] You'd gladly help if she wanted to revive them.
    --[X] If she wants them for protection, there's alternatives.
    -[X] We.
    --[X] Can.
    --[X] Help.
    [X] Other topics:
    -[X] What does your Soul look like?
    -[X] How do her powers work?
    -[X] Wish rejection: describe Oriko's symptoms.
    -[X] De-Witching.
    --[X] Let Riona examine Aurora.
    --[X] Explain your experiments so far.
    [x] Vebyast
    [X] Sabrina-Pilot on key points
    -[X] Acknowledge that asking her to reject the powers of her Wish is a huge thing, and she probably had good reasons for it. Mention that even if our offered help witht he problem isn't enough, we still understand she might have a special shade or two she /cant/ release because its too important. Thats something we'd obviously be fine with until a better solution appears even if we reject the idea of holding other hostiles and innocents in stasis.
    -[X] If she doesn't want our help, fine, put that aside a moment. Acknowledge lack of detail to our promises. Bring out special Clear Seeds (happy-grief and quiescent ones, at least) , mention tests and ask opinion on results thus far. Is this at least any better than other attempts she's aware of? Can she at least offer that much if she doesn't want anything from us after this long trip?
    [X] Show her the Clear Seed. Explain what she's seeing: the sheer capacity, the quiescent nature of the witch, the way it absorbs hope magic.
    -[x] And this is just a stopgap measure to keep everyone's gem clean while we create a real solution.
    [x] If she wants cleansing and dewitching, then the only way that it's going to be possible is by working with us.
    -[x] As she's said, everybody's tried but nobody's been able to... until now.
    --[x] And if there's something else she wants, we can make that possible, too.
    ---[X]No guarantees, obviously, we're powerful not omnipotent, but we can't negotiate when any attempt at finding out what she actually wants is stonewalled with variations of "None of your business/not giving up my power/your soul", the latter of which she has to know isn't going to happen.
    [x] Okay. Then I guess thats it.
    -[x]One thing, do you know anyone else I can contact with soul related abilities? Since you won't help me and I need input on it with my research team.
    [x] Show her the Clear Seed. Explain what she's seeing: the sheer capacity, the quiescent nature of the witch, the way it absorbs hope magic.
    -[x] And this is just a stopgap measure to keep everyone's gem clean while we create a real solution.
    [x] If she wants cleansing and dewitching, then the only way that it's going to be possible is by working with us.
    -[x] As she's said, everybody's tried but nobody's been able to... until now.
    --[x] And if there's something else she wants, we can probably make that possible, too.
    [X] gem her
    [x] Plan:
    -[x] She'd be unwilling to give up her sister's shade and you think she might be equally unwilling to reveal that she has it.
    -[x] You'll make a stab in the dark about her power's origin and use it as grounds for giving her a way out.
    -[x] Make an offer that would let her keep her sister's shade without talking about it.
    -[x] Note that, if she is holding her sister's shade, she's likely denying the ethical implications of her actions out of self-defense.
    [x] She won't release her wraiths now, fine. And you won't deny her her home or safety. But would she really keep those souls trapped if it became unnecessary?
    [x] You want Rionna to stop murdering people, and if any of her shades are suffering you want that stopped.
    [x] But. But. You can't think of many ways a girl gets a power like Rionna's.
    [x] If there are any shades that she needs to keep, and she doesn't want to explain who they are or why she needs them... you won't ask questions, and she'll have full access to your research network.
    [x] Does that sound like what she needs?
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