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  • [X] Bring up de-Witching
    [X] Ask her what she's talking about.
    -[X] Encourage Riona to talk. Ask simple, prodding questions as necessary. Don't push too much.
    -[X] Try to learn:
    --[X] Riona's expectations, past and present.
    --[X] Riona's reasons for her actions, and for telling us all this.
    [X] Afterwards:
    [X] Clarify: If she lets us help, we'll help.
    -[X] We'll ask:
    --[X] She stops killing while we work together.
    --[X] After her problem is solved, she stops killing and releases the unwillingly taken Souls.
    -[X] Ask her to consider letting us help. For real, none of this 'only way to help would be giving our soul' BS.
    --[X] Ask her to take a few minutes to actually think about it.
    [X] Meanwhile... ask if she can keep a secret. If so:
    -[X] Bring up de-Witching.
    [x] I do want you to stop. But if I refused to help any magical girl who was forced to do something awful... there wouldn't be very many girls that I could help left.
    -[x] If I manage to help you, and if what you've done is no longer necessary afterwards... won't you want to stop, yourself?
    -[x] What is it that you're working towards, that you're gathering so many grief controllers for? Reversing the witch transformation? Trying to reinstate a wraith? Tell me.
    [X] She doesn't get it, does she?
    -[X] You don't need preconditions. You'll help her, because you'll make the world a slightly better place by doing so. And because you'll be able to get her to agree to things afterwards.
    --[X] When people have something they'd watch the world burn before endangering, you don't open negotiations by demanding they endanger it. You open negotiations by ensuring its safety.
    -[X] Yes I do, but Meguca are for saving and that means that I'm willing to put aside my own feelings on the matter if it means being able to help.
    [X] Vebyast
    [X] Bring up your de-Witching efforts/progress
    [x] I do want you to stop. But if I refused to help any magical girl who was forced to do something awful... there wouldn't be very many girls that I could help left.
    -[x] If I manage to help you, and if what you've done is no longer necessary afterwards... won't you want to stop, yourself?
    -[x] What is it that you're working towards, that you're gathering so many grief controllers for? Reversing the witch transformation? Trying to give a Shade a body again?
    [X] It isn't a lie. You want Riona to stop but you can settle for postconditions.
    [X] But what is Riona's problem she keeps in Edinburgh anyway? Somthing to cleanse from grief? You're working on cleansing enchantments and can refresh Grief Seeds indefinitely. Dewitching? You've been working on that and gotten some results
    -[x] If Riona shows interest or challenge us to our claim, bring the Clear Seed again and let her examine it. Explain technical differences between Grief Seeds and Clear Seeds (clear seeds feel calmer, etc). After that, insist on the question about what's in Edinburgh.
    [X] Yes, you despise it. Your offer is not a lie, though.
    [X] You simply believe that she has a reason for this.
    -[X] And that if her problem is solved, she won't have that reason anymore. She'll stop.
    [X] Are you wrong?
    [X] Sabrina helps everyone, even witches. De-witching research happening. We don't send them to Kyuubey already. Rionna isn't worse than a witch? We will help her.
    [X] Before Rionna decides her end, explore the truth we are saying. Proof exists.
    [X] Rionna must have used countless powers already. Another Shade can't help her.
    -[X] What she needs is someone to cast the magic along with her, isn't it?
    [X] The only way to move forward when one has done everything they could do is to do things differently than ever before. Sabrina is the person who acts in the way that won't hurt Rionna. Who else has helped with her problem?
    [X] People don't do horrible things without reason. Force is almost always less effective than addressing the underlying problem, answering the reason..
    [X] Anri is our example of morality, tell the story
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