Vote tally - Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

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  • [x] Take a moment to calm down.
    -[X] Tell Riona you appreciate her being frank and upfront. You'll try to do the same.
    [X] Explain you're creating a better world.
    -[X] Admit Riona's actions as claimed might have been necessary in the past.
    -[X] Explain your work and hopes regarding implementing justice, protection, equity and accountability for Magical Girls. (etc.)
    --[X] Riona's brand of 'justice' should cease to be necessary.
    -[X] Explain free cleansing distribution.
    --[X] Clear Seeds, upsides and downsides. Need for a better, moral solution.
    -[X] De-Witching.
    --[X] You're creating a network to work on it. You hope Riona can help.
    [X] You want to work together.
    -[X] You are afraid to trust her with a Clear Seed yet, since you don't know her.
    --[X] Invite Riona to stick around, free cleansing as long as she stays, get to know each other.
    --[X] Ask again that she considers working together.
    -[X] Regarding her claims:
    --[X] You can't abide her taking any more Souls, for reasons stated; moral, ethical and practical concerns.
    --[X] Ask whether she can restore, and if not, release the Souls she's taken, at least those taken by force.
    ---[X] Part of the standards we want to set are humane treatment.
    ---[X] Offer alternatives and solutions. Jail, therapy, magically created bodies for those souls, magical research, whatever is necessary.
    [X] Continue vote in abeyance: Stay neutral, don't judge her. Give your spiel.
    [x] Redshirt Army
    [x] Take a moment to calm down.
    -[X] Tell Riona you appreciate her being frank and upfront. You'll try to do the same.
    [X] Riona's brand of 'justice' should cease to be necessary. You've got the resources to do things more humanely than her and intend to acquire more. She should stop.
    [X]You can make grief seeds last longer, ease their suffering but that doesn't actually solve the prisoner inside them.
    [X]You want what I have. I want to replicate what I have. Ubiquitous, widespread, cleansing. Widespread enough to risk making Kyubey take more direct action. If he's part of a T4 Kardashev species that could be very bad.
    [X]According to Kyubey witchification staves off the heat death of the universe with the largest energy yields. You don't buy that though. Probably another half truth.
    [X]If the worst happens, if you're slain, the dream must not die with you. Stop taking souls. Work with you to evaluate souls for rebodiment or release into whatever afterlife exists. Free cleansing and you get to be my insurance policy if you can claim me.
    [X] Use grief to generate quiet sound in Mami's ear.
    -[X] "Timestop, now!"
    [X] Rionna's soul gem is a ring on her finger right now. Gem her by cutting her hand off and obliterating her body.
    -[x] Keep soul gem in privacy sphere, to isolate from enslaved souls.
    -[x] Assume she can operate while gemmed. Avoid touching the gem or hand with grief so she can't take your soul through it or get pulled into time stop.
    -[x] Be prepared for either time stop or a countermeasure.
    [x] Onmar
    [x] Communicate to Mami via grief: potential foe, high threat, move away, timestop on signal. Arrange some sort of simple, clear and fast signal using grief.
    [x] Calmly ask what that makes her. How many people has she done this to, and under what circumstances. We'll listen.
    [x] She's keeping people as slaves. We wanted to work with her, so so much. We want to make a world where the things she's seen don't happen to anyone.
    [x] What's done is done, but she can stop now if she chooses to. Could she let the shades go?
    [x] Make her an offer- Clear Seeds, money, whatever. Bluntly state we want to help her get what she wants that doesn't involve harming others. Will she stop?
    [x] If she tries to leave the bubble or otherwise stop talking without agreeing to let the souls she's enslaved go:
    -[x] If possible, signal for timestop and bodykill her as quickly as possible.
    --[x] Otherwise, bodykill her as quickly as possible.
    [x] Take a moment to calm down.
    -[X] Tell Riona you appreciate her being frank and upfront. You'll try to do the same.
    [X] How many people has she done this to? What were the circumstances? You're willing to hear her out, but her actions sound horrifying, morally and practically.
    -[X] Hear her out if she explains.
    -[X] You understand some of her actions might have been necessary before, but you're making progress towards creating a better world than that.
    -[X] Explain your work and hopes to improve things.
    --[X] Standards, justice, society.
    --[X] Free cleansing, Clear Seeds.
    --[X] De-Witching.
    [X] You want to work with her. If you cooperate, you believe you can do amazing things.
    -[X] But you can't accept what she's claimed. Enslaving people's Souls is wrong, even if they're bad. Ask her to stop. Can the Souls be restored or otherwise released to wherever they go after death?
    --[X] Offer alternatives and solutions. Jail, therapy, magically created bodies for those souls, magical research, whatever is necessary.
    --[X] Offer free cleansing for life, if she can agree with that.
    [X] Ask her to give us a chance, to work with us, and do better.
    -[X] Everyone should have the opportunity to become better then they were. That includes the souls she's trapped, and that includes her.
    --[X] Perhaps we seem too idealistic and naive, and we know that sometimes a horrible criminal just can't be redeemed. Still, we want to try.
    [X] Don't grant approval, but give body language and cues that she should keep talking at any time.
    -[X] Use active listening, adding "go on" and "so,?" etc. to encourage her to talk more.
    [X] Remain calm. There are worse people, and she didn't come to assault us.
    [X] Rionna is speaking like she hasn't trusted anyone in a long time.
    -[X] At some later point, explain our real magic is about working together. We will show her.
    [X] Rionna is probably both inebriated, and full of anxiety... enough to tank negotiations to escape her pain?
    -[X] Her brashness is a front. She is very defensive ATM.
    -[X] She told us to judge her, as a way to deal with us doing just that. This has happened to her before. Powers discrimination?
    -[X] Rionna has a simple morality that she believes in very strongly.
    --[X] She is not a good philosopher, there are contradictions
    --[X] She isn't very wise
    ---[X] or mature, though she is playing at the role of adulthood in the way she understands how.
    [X] Talk about Rionna.
    -[X] Ask Rionna to list her goals. How old is Rionna? Personal history?
    --[X] Don't follow up about sister
    --[X] insist on talking about her self interest.
    [X] Learn her actual wish, and contract story.
    -[X] Generic answer was not enough. We need to know her.
    [X] Our basic help is free to her
    -[X] we are more than a simple charity
    -[X] artificial Grief Seeds are needed
    -[X] spreading cleansing and our ability to everyone.
    -[X] Does her ideal world look more like Mitakihara?
    -[X] Serious about de-witching
    [X] Will she stay with us a while?
    [X] Ask details about her powers. What she does with them in her city. Things she wants to try, but hasn't
    [X] Other points: we are the good person we want to be. Describe our soul. Meet our friends, and see proof. How does her telepathy work?
    [x] Take a moment to calm down.
    -[X] Tell Riona you appreciate her being frank and upfront. You'll try to do the same.
    -[X] Don't monologue. Listen to Rionna, give her a chance to expand or explain her perspective.
    [X] Explain you're creating a better world.
    -[X] Admit Riona's actions as claimed might have been necessary in the past.
    -[X] Explain your work and hopes regarding implementing justice, protection, equity and accountability for Magical Girls. (etc.)
    --[X] Riona's brand of 'justice' should cease to be necessary.
    -[X] Explain free cleansing distribution.
    --[X] Clear Seeds, upsides and downsides. Need for a better, moral solution.
    -[X] De-Witching.
    --[X] You're creating a network to work on it. You hope Riona can help.
    [X] You want to work together.
    -[X] You are afraid to trust her with a Clear Seed yet, since you don't know her.
    --[X] Invite Riona to stick around, free cleansing as long as she stays, get to know each other.
    --[X] Ask again that she considers working together.
    -[X] Regarding her claims:
    --[X] You can't abide her taking any more Souls, for reasons stated; moral, ethical and practical concerns.
    --[X] Ask whether she can restore, and if not, release the Souls she's taken, at least those taken by force.
    ---[X] Part of the standards we want to set are humane treatment.
    ---[X] Offer alternatives and solutions. Jail, therapy, magically created bodies for those souls, magical research, whatever is necessary. You know that it'll take time.
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