[X] There is something you should discuss, yes. Fair warning: It's gonna be heavy.
-[X] Stop searching. Sit down. Use Grief Fog to make sure KB isn't around. Full serious mode.
[X] There is a secret. It's an infohazard. It remains a secret to puella society, because almost every magical girl who learns it shortly thereafter dies from their soul filling with despair. It's that bad.
-[x] If you share this with Sayaka, you're putting Mami's life in her hands. It would almost certainly kill her.
[X] Learning this will affect Sayaka:
-[X] It will change her outlook in life, like it changed Homura's and Niko's.
-[X] She would need to keep it secret 24/7, never let it slip in anger, not talk about it with anyone, and generally do everything she can to not let it get out. Or else many people, including her friends, could die.
[X] So it's not about whether she should know, but rather about whether she wants to risk knowing.
-[X] You told Mami there was a secret, and Niko told Kazumi. They both decided to not know.
-[X] Both Homura and you are scared of sharing even this much, but you are making her the same offer.
-[X] Ask her to not decide just yet. Think about it. [X] Reassure Sayaka.
-[X] If she decides to know, you'll trust her. You'll get her main body in a Privacy Sphere or timestop and tell her everything.
-[X] She doesn't have to know. If she decides not to, you won't think any less of her.
-[X] Witch Hunt? Cool down hugs?
[X] Cut this vote at any time Author pleases.
[X] Funny she should ask. We just asked Homura about sharing with her.
[X] Stop searching. This is more important. Make sure KB isn't around. [X] Sayaka should make sure her other self doesn't telegraph anything. You're in no hurry, and you can pause at any time that's necessary.
-[X] Nothing you're going to discuss here gets related to anyone, which also means no telepathy. You'll elaborate as you go.
[X] Broadly explain the concept of an infohazard. It's a little bit like Heresy, except a lot worse.
[X] Mami and, you're told, six of seven Pleiades have declined this information.
-[X] This discussion is about whether Sayaka wants this information, not whether she should be told it. And you're going to make her take until at least tomorrow to think about it.
[X] Hammer on these lines at length and in variation until Sayaka is appropriately cognizant:
-[X] Infohazards are, obviously, a responsibility. You don't talk about them, slip up with them, confide in your best friend about them: that kills people. That is a permanent burden, and it's not a fun one: it's working a job 24/7. No alcohol.
-[X] Infohazards hurt. She's low risk and in special circumstances: it'd probably only permanently change her outlook on life for the worse. Normal consequences of exposure include psychoses, insanity, horrible death, sudden homicidal actions: no matter what, it will make her world a darker place. [X] Stress that she doesn't need this information to be incredibly helpful: also stress that you're not just saying this to try to dissuade her. There are upsides and downsides to both options, but it's an infohazard: you can't truly discuss the upsides to knowing without exposing her. You will say that none of them are fun... But if there weren't significant benefits you'd just suppress this completely. [X] If she decides she wants to know, you'll explain everything and then you won't let her go anywhere alone for a short while -- probably buy her ice cream. Basic observation period that'll double as Q&A. Don't want her leaving and then going crazy. -[X] This will be a permanently standing offer. You should also note that there is some -- very small -- chance of exposure in the course of everyday life. If it happens, she'll know -- she should ask for help immediately. -[X] Hug the stuffing out of her. She's a good friend, has a great heart, and you're glad to have her on the team.
[X] There is something you should discuss, yes. Fair warning: It's gonna be heavy.
-[X] Stop searching. Sit down. Use Grief Fog to make sure KB isn't around. Full serious mode. [X] We're going to ask Sayaka some take time to think about whether she wants to know, but we can make the offer here. [X] Sayaka's right: This is dangerous knowledge. It could easily kill people. It's a secret with a bodycount, and not a small one. -[X] We gave Mami the offer and she chose not to know. It was the correct choice for her too; she's one of the people most vulnerable to this knowledge.
-[X] Both Homura and you are scared of sharing even this much, but you are making her the same offer.
[X] Learning this will affect Sayaka:
-[X] It will change her outlook in life, like it changed Homura's and Niko's.
-[X] She would need to keep it secret 24/7, never let it slip in anger, not talk about it with anyone, and generally do everything she can to not let it get out. Or else many people, including her friends, could die. -[X] Because of all that, our biggest worry is that it would leave Sayaka isolated, and set apart from her friends by the very real need to keep it secret. [X] On the other hand, this is something that can be fixed, and we plan to work on doing so. It should be... if never safe, then at least safer after that starts to happen. There's still that same risk, but it will be lesser.
[X] It's not about whether she should know, but rather about whether she wants to risk knowing. [X] Reassure Sayaka.
-[X] If she decides to know, you'll trust her. You'll get her main body in a Privacy Sphere or timestop and tell her everything.
-[X] If she decides to not know, you won't think any less of her. --[X] Mami wasn't weak for choosing to avoid it, Kazumi wasn't weak for it, and neither would Sayaka be any less in your eyes.
-[X] Witch Hunt?
[x] Funny you should ask. We were just discussing that.
[x] Have Sayaka give us her full attention. This is Serious Business.
[x] When we told Mami the truth about Soul Gems and how Kyubey was manipulating her, the emotional trauma almost killed her. And this secret is even worse.
[x] We gave a Mami a choice whether or not to know this, and she chose not to. Which was a relief, because magical girls that learn this have been known to take their own life or go insane.
[x] If we tell you this, you have to keep the secret. You can't tell your friends. You can't let it slip in a moment of anger. You can't even talk about it with other people in the know unless we take measures to ensure secrecy, like Homura's timestop or our privacy sphere.
[x] With all that said, think about whether or not you really want to know this. We won't be able to tell you until after school when we can meet with your real body inside a privacy sphere. Use that time to think about whether or not this is a burden you want to put on yourself.
[x] Funny, you and Homura were just talking about that.
-[x] Homura thinks that telling Sayaka is too dangerous. She thinks it'll destroy Sayaka and that Sayaka will take everyone with her.
-[x] You think that Sayaka's Wish to be Useful will give her the strength she needs.
[x] Tell Sayaka to take a bathroom break or something.
-[x] Bet her a bucket of ice cream that she has to claim food poisoning and take the rest of the day off.
-[x] Implement privacy sphere if Sayaka thinks it'll work. If it'd cut her off, just take security measures - no coobs allowed.
[x] Explain the stakes. Pull no punches.
-[x] If Sayaka tells Mami, she'll probably try to commit suicide.
-[x] If Sayaka tells Madoka, Makoda Wishes then commits suicide, Homura possibly kills Sayaka in grief-stricken revenge and then commits suicide, and then everyone probably dies.
-[x] Sayaka will have to keep this from everyone, especially her friends. You, Homura, Oriko, Nadia, and Niko are it. She will have some of the same secrets that you've been laboring under so long. Can she handle that?
-[x] Does Sayaka understand how serious this is?
[x] Explain why you're taking this risk: It's worth it. Sayaka Wished to be useful. This is the best thing she could possibly do. The responsibility of holding this secret is what she wanted to bear.
[x] Give Sayaka the last chance to back out, same offer you give everyone else.
[X] Yes we have secrets, but they are secrets for a reason - especially this one.
-[X] We should do this in private - *make privacy sphere, if this effects the clone break to vote*
-[X] Mami knows we hold this secret and elected not to know it for the moment once she learned of its gravity.
-[X] Saying that - telling this information to Mami may very well kill her. It's information that could kill many magical girls depending on how and when you tell them. Sayaka Miki you are being given the ability, by simple divulgence of information, to kill most magical girls - and my girl friend. It might very well kill you if I judged you wrong. That is setting aside the effects of possible isolation from knowing it and needing to keep it secret.
-[X] So... do you want to know?
