[X] Keep being empathyBrina.
-[x] Take care to keep Homura open and communicating.
-[x] Take your time, give Homura however long she needs.
[x] Tone: Absolute, total, beyond the ends of the world certainty. You know this is true.
-[x] Homura is not a failure. She is not a good for nothing. You won't put up with hearing one of the most amazing people in the world, one of your friends, put themselves down like that.
-[x] Right here, right now, Madoka is happy, and safe, and protected. By her. And if Madoka hadn't met Homura, her life would have been worse for it.
-[x] If Madoka knew everything Homura's done for her, she wouldn't hesitate for an instant to say that Homura is her greatest and best friend.
[x] Conversation goals: Get Homura to a point where it's safe to let her think about all of this.
-[x] Madoka was better off with Homura there, even if Homura hasn't met her own standards of success yet.
[x] Potentially, as needed to accomplish those goals:
-[x] She was put in a nearly impossible situation, and can't blame herself for that. You couldn't have done better, not in her shoes.
--[x] She still kept Mami and Sayaka in her heart to the end, even though they kept falling and taking Madoka with them. She kept trying, which is all anyone could ask.
-[x] You know what Homura's done, and you accept her. You'll believe in her to the end.
--[x] Madoka would too, you're certain of it.
-[x] Only because of Homura is there hope for a better world in the future.
--[x] Striving for a better outcome for everyone is what Madoka would have wanted from her.
-[x] Thank Homura for all she's done - and still is doing - for Madoka, you, and the world.
-[x] Provide tactile support and encouragement to the degree Homura is comfortable with it. [x] Let Homu compose herself before returning to realtime.
[X] Keep being empathyBrina.
-[x] Take care to keep Homura open and communicating.
-[x] Take your time, give Homura however long she needs.
[x] Tone: Absolute, total, beyond the ends of the world certainty. You know this is true.
-[x] Homura is not a failure. You won't put up with hearing one of the most amazing people in the world, one of your friends, put themselves down like that.
-[x] Right here, right now, Madoka is happy, and safe, and protected. By her. And if Madoka hadn't met Homura, her life would have been worse for it.
-[x] If Madoka knew everything Homura's done for her, she wouldn't hesitate for an instant to say that Homura is her greatest and best friend.
[x] Conversation goals: get Homura to accept that she has accomplished something positive for Madoka.
[X] Keep being empathyBrina.
-[x] Take care to keep Homura open and communicating.
-[x] Take your time, give Homura however long she needs.
[x] Long-term goal: Help Homura recover self-worth by helping her believe that the loops have not failed. In particular:
-[x] Progress was being made on "not being tricked" with every loop, and her Wish last loop was sufficiently well informed.
-[x] Madoka was better off with Homura there, even if Homura wasn't perfectly successful immediately.
[x] Conversation goals: Get Homura to a point where it's safe to let her think about all of this.
[x] Potentially useful points for Brinapilot to deploy as appropriate:
-[x] If Homura had been hurting people, Madoka would have done something about it. She didn't, so she must not think that Homura is hurting people.
-[x] If your knowledge is correct, Madoka asked Homura to go back so everyone didn't end up that way. Madoka wouldn't have asked Homura to hurt people.
-[x] The alternative to the loops was everyone staying dead. Homura would have to try hard to do worse than that.
-[x] Make an analogy to surgical medicine - it hurts, maybe a lot, but it's better than dying of cancer.
-[x] If anything, Homura was giving Madoka hope.
-[x] Homura may not have yet succeeded, but she got everyone here, and that means that Everything Can Be Fixed. Even if Homura had been causing suffering, which you doubt, it can be fixed now, everything will be okay.
-[x] You always find your keys in the last place you look. Homura hasn't succeeded yet, but she's making progress, the same way you rule out "under the couch" or "on the desk" even though you're "failing" to find your keys.
-[x] In one of the possibilities you've seen, Madoka says that Homura has always been her very best friend.
[X] Homura is stuck in a logical fallacy. Because of her emotions. Engage those emotions, reduce them.
[X] Keep being empathyBrina.
-[x] Take care to keep Homura open and communicating.
-[x] Take your time, give Homura however long she needs.
[x] First, continue use soft storytelling tone.
[x] Lead her through it repeatedly, until something sticks or there's a different result, break to vote.
[x] Sabrina repeats affirmations, Acknowledges Homura's well earned agency. Cooperates with Homura's Wish intent.
-[x] Use facts that are positive, offer simple praise, as well as current-time safety phrases. Deflect resistance if needed. Don't use them to "fight."
-[x] Not conducting a logical argument. Keep the pater going.
--[x] Sometimes cast aspersions upon the Incubators.
--[x] Sometimes remark on Madoka's good choices (do not discuss wishing.)
--[x] Sometimes state Homura has caught up to Madoka, kept her promise.
-[x] Sub Goal is to repeat dozens of times over a few hours. Slow enough to not overload her, pay attention.
-[x] leading questions can be mixed in.
--[X] Was there ever a previous timeline when Madoka was safe and happy?
[x] Tone: Absolute, total, beyond the ends of the world certainty. You know this is true.
-[x] Homura is not a failure. -[x] Right here, right now, Madoka is happy, and safe, and protected. By her.
-[x] If Madoka hadn't met Homura, her life would have been lost or worse.
-[x] No one can dishonor one of your friends with errors like that.
-[x] If Madoka knew everything Homura's done for her, she wouldn't hesitate for an instant to say that Homura is her greatest and best friend.
-[x] Sabrina hasn't guarded Madoka, only Homura could. Sabrina gives support to Homura. Homura is essential to Sabrina.
[x] Conversation goals: get Homura to accept that she has accomplished something positive for Madoka.
[x] Giving each other hope can't be wrong.
